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Steve Nash: 'I was very close' to joining Raptors
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Deron Williams was an example this year about going for the money I believe (the Nets could pay him the most). I forget now whether he signed before or after they signed J Jackson. He passed on Dallas and I am sure some others. I saw Boston/Brooklyn game last night and the Celtics killed them. btw the Celts are going with only 1 PG (Rondo) on the roster! Iam sure others like Terry can but still?
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Matt52 wrote: View Post
If the Raptors acquire top talent and build championship contending and winning teams, I have a feeling (read: I have an opinion) that they have some really good talent and keeping them will not be an issue. Winning solves a lot of these issues - and that is not related just to the Lakers (remember, Kobe did want out) or Raptors. Winning while making the most money possible cures absolutely everything from a player perspective - and that is not related just to the Lakers or Raptors either.
While good players will get endorsement deals no matter where they play, I remember reading an article showing that market had a huge impact on the quantity/quality of those endorsements (eg. same player could make more in endorsement deals playing in NY vs Orlando)
The last time I remember nike or gatorade etc. commercial with a Raptor in it was Vince. Now ofcourse there haven't exactly been a number of those top quality players here, but even Bosh didn't get the attention guys like Josh Smith and even Chauncey Billups got with those big name companies.
We also shouldn't eliminate ego from the equation, although it is ofcourse alot more difficult to define.
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Craiger wrote: View PostI think this is true as a generality. But we should question how do these players make the most money possible? Aside from their contract itself, there are endorsement deals, and tax savings.
While good players will get endorsement deals no matter where they play, I remember reading an article showing that market had a huge impact on the quantity/quality of those endorsements (eg. same player could make more in endorsement deals playing in NY vs Orlando)
The last time I remember nike or gatorade etc. commercial with a Raptor in it was Vince. Now ofcourse there haven't exactly been a number of those top quality players here, but even Bosh didn't get the attention guys like Josh Smith and even Chauncey Billups got with those big name companies.
We also shouldn't eliminate ego from the equation, although it is ofcourse alot more difficult to define.
As for Smith and Billups - Billups won championships, had deep playoff runs. Smith was young and exciting. Bosh did not have success on the court and was hardly exciting.
I think another factor is fan appeal and style of game. I am not sure how to quantify that.
Outside of the biggest superstars, the bulk of players money will come from their pay cheque.
There are always exceptions though: is Durant struggling from lack of exposure in OKC? I don't think so. Would he be even more hyped nationally in NY or LA? Absolutely - look at a 20 point Raptor win over NY and the highlights on ESPN show 3 Knick plays and 0 for the winning team. However, would the cost to get to that market be worth the $25M hit in salary to Durant it would take to get there via free agency? I don't know but I would think not.
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To be honest, I'm glad we didn't land Nash. Yeah he's great, but we'd get maybe a couple of seasons out of him and we would've way overpaid him for those services. I have no complaints with Lowry - in fact, what he brings is more what we need and provides another solid pillar for the future. Bryco landing Lowry almost makes me forget Turk/Jermaine O'Neal.....almost.
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Nobody expected what’s happened — especially Steve,” said Kerr, a TNT analyst. “He really thought he was stepping into a situation where he could win a title. He told me before he signed there, when Toronto had made the big offer, with more money and all that stuff, and he said he didn’t want to just ride out his career as a circus act. He wanted to put himself out there, to put himself on the line.
I guess we were never really "close" to acquiring Nash after all....
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I have to admit that I was intrigued at the thought of Nash running this team. Aside from Chris Paul, he's really the only PG in this league who can make ANY teammate look better.
Having said that, it really was a short-sighted, unsustainable plan.
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Also Nash started the season with a bum knee which got injured 6 games in? I just wish BC held back on him when he noticed Nash was beating around the bush looking for teams to take him over joining us...
BC has clearly never heard of "Never make someone your priority when you are only an option" lol Nash played him hard and BC pulled the trigger over paying Fields o man what a farce!
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KHD wrote: View PostNash is no idiot. This is all PR.
I have no problem with him taking his best shot at a title, but what does bother me is the fact that the Lakers can still outspend everyone else in the league despite the CBA. Might as well admit the fact that the NBA is more like European football than the NFL, and abandon the so-called salary cap.
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