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Raptors rumours in the dog days of summer - David West
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Fully wrote: View PostI know this is a completely hypothetical situation we're debating, but isn't a big part of the "asset accumulation model" that you're constantly building up the value of your existing players/assets for the chance to turn them into something greater? Swapping Patterson + salary filler for West jumps out to me as a perfect example of that.
You could make the argument that PP was a throw in to the Rudy Gay deal, and now a year later you (hypothetically) have the chance to turn him into David West (who is probably a tad overpaid at this point but not egregiously, nor does his contract conflict with our long term plan that should culminate in 2016). There seems to be a lot of people advocating for 2Pat to take Amir's starting spot this year - but turning him into a legit starting PF in West and allowing Amir to come in off the bench seems like a move that would raise the Raptors ceiling considerably for the next two years.
The East is relatively wide open this season, assuming that the Cavs will take some time to mesh completely and Derrick Rose and the Bulls will need a season or more to acclimate themselves to one another again. You probably won't be able to say that for very many seasons beyond this one. It may not be the worst time to roll the dice, especially when you're really only giving up one true asset, and not a particularly great one at that.
In my view, David West is better than the Raptors' bigs last year. Moreover, I think it's not just a matter of individual play and fit. There are also intangibles. Playoff experience, vocal leadership, balls, physicality. I think West would be the toughest good player the Raptors had since Antonio Davis. That can help the team in ways beyond individual contribution.
And yes, I agree, the East looks wide open. The Cavs are likely to have growing pains, the Bulls (and to a lesser degree the Cavs) are injury prone. I think the Raptors have a shot, and West puts them closer.
There are concerns of course, he's older, he can decline. But frankly I have similar concerns about Lowry, Patterson, Amir, they all had a tendency to get banged up in the past. This team could take a step back, trade or no trade. But overall it would look more solid with David West to me.
My main concern is salary. I want this team to go after Millsap this summer, or maybe someone else will be available. That's the main reason why my first instinct is to say 'no' to this trade. But it's not unthinkable that the Raptors could get West and still clear enough cap space for one of these guys by moving a few small contracts. So I could definitely get excited about this trade if it happened.Last edited by BobLoblaw; Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:15 PM.
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mcHAPPY wrote: View PostMeh.
I'd rather roll with Amir and PP.
Griffin also eats in to 2015 salary cap space.You come at the King, you best not miss.
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Mr.Z wrote: View PostYou're joking right? lol Griffin starts at 4, PPat and Amir are the first bigs off the bench! This will obviously never happen but don't act like it wouldn't be the shit
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