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    Apparently hoopshype is saying barbosa might opt out of his contract and try signing for a team in Brazil. He probably is worried about a lockout and figures he is better off playing there. as great of a player barbosa is i wouldnt mid if he opted out. Raps would save alot and nmight be able to get a better player in FA.

    SOURCE :

    http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/sierra ... an-option/

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    pesterm1 wrote: View Post
    Apparently hoopshype is saying barbosa might opt out of his contract and try signing for a team in Brazil. He probably is worried about a lockout and figures he is better off playing there. as great of a player barbosa is i wouldnt mid if he opted out. Raps would save alot and nmight be able to get a better player in FA.

    SOURCE :

    http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/sierra ... an-option/
    The Raptors won't get a better free agent than Barbosa, and the money the team saves won't matter much. I think he's way, way more valuable to the team as a trade asset at the deadline than as an expiring contract that will allow the Raptors to spend more money on a free agent. Loads of teams will be under the cap and most of them have a better record, roster and situation than Toronto. Good players aren't going to sign with a 22 win team unless you massively overpay them. And even then it's doubtful the Raptors would even make it back to the playoffs, so what's really the point?
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    • #3
      Tim W. wrote: View Post
      The Raptors won't get a better free agent than Barbosa, and the money the team saves won't matter much. I think he's way, way more valuable to the team as a trade asset at the deadline than as an expiring contract that will allow the Raptors to spend more money on a free agent. Loads of teams will be under the cap and most of them have a better record, roster and situation than Toronto. Good players aren't going to sign with a 22 win team unless you massively overpay them. And even then it's doubtful the Raptors would even make it back to the playoffs, so what's really the point?
      Yup, except that he should've been dealt last deadline as everyone had hoped. As you said, the Raps aren't in a position to attract major free-agents so the cap room they'd save means little.

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      • #4
        I was really surprised that he wasn't dealt last deadline too. God knows the Raps weren't going anywhere, and many a playoff team could have used his talents. Would Chicago have rolled over and played dead with Miami if they had Barbosa?
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        • #5
          RaptorDan wrote: View Post
          I was really surprised that he wasn't dealt last deadline too. God knows the Raps weren't going anywhere, and many a playoff team could have used his talents. Would Chicago have rolled over and played dead with Miami if they had Barbosa?
          We probably didn't get the right offer. I'd rather keep him than trade him away for the sake of trading.

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          • #6
            Arsenalist wrote: View Post
            Yup, except that he should've been dealt last deadline as everyone had hoped. As you said, the Raps aren't in a position to attract major free-agents so the cap room they'd save means little.
            Had he been healthy, I think he would have been dealt. His wrist injury, I think, pretty much killed any chances of getting a half decent return for him. At around the trade deadline, I don't think anyone was even sure he would last the rest of the season.
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            • #7
              Arsenalist wrote: View Post
              Yup, except that he should've been dealt last deadline as everyone had hoped. As you said, the Raps aren't in a position to attract major free-agents so the cap room they'd save means little.
              Except cap room isn't only used to lure free agents. It is also a valuable tool when it comes to completing trades. When teams are over the cap, salaries must match within 125% + 100K. Take $7.6M off the cap and that is $7.6M that does not have to be sent out in a trade.

              Bottom line: cap room is more than free agents.

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              • #8
                pesterm1 wrote: View Post
                Apparently hoopshype is saying barbosa might opt out of his contract and try signing for a team in Brazil. He probably is worried about a lockout and figures he is better off playing there. as great of a player barbosa is i wouldnt mid if he opted out. Raps would save alot and nmight be able to get a better player in FA.

                SOURCE :

                http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/sierra ... an-option/
                Barbosa and/or his agent are leaking rumours to inflate the value of an extension. He is doing what Nene has been doing since the end of the year. Nene went from, "I'll retire if they trade me." to "I don't feel appreciated here and I'm looking to explore my options." Negotiation tactics, nothing more, nothing less.

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                • #9
                  Tim W. wrote: View Post
                  The Raptors won't get a better free agent than Barbosa
                  +1

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                  • #10
                    Matt52 wrote: View Post
                    Barbosa and/or his agent are leaking rumours to inflate the value of an extension. He is doing what Nene has been doing since the end of the year. Nene went from, "I'll retire if they trade me." to "I don't feel appreciated here and I'm looking to explore my options." Negotiation tactics, nothing more, nothing less.
                    Agreed 100%. Barbosa is a great player/locker room guy but I'd rather see us invest dollars in veterans who are defensive minded. We can have a few offensive specialist players but Jose, Dre and Barbosa are too much especially on the floor at the same time. Hopefully BC doesn't invest long term dollars in him.

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                    • #11
                      Do they have a league in Brazil that even comes close to paying him the 7.5 he makes here? If that were the case and I doubt it who wouldnt want to play there and running with all the bunnies on the Copa. What date does he have to declare by?

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                      • #12
                        Bendit wrote: View Post
                        Do they have a league in Brazil that even comes close to paying him the 7.5 he makes here? If that were the case and I doubt it who wouldnt want to play there and running with all the bunnies on the Copa. What date does he have to declare by?
                        Whatever he makes in Brazil would be more than the zero dollars he'd make if there is a lockout. Plus he'd be at home and not in Canada...

                        I would still prefer the Raptors to keep him though. It may save the Raptors some cash, but without an option to splash said cash on, it doesn't make much sense. And really, MLSE's pocket-book isn't very close to the top of my list of priorities for the coming seasons...
                        Last edited by star_bury; Fri Jun 10, 2011, 11:13 AM.

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                        • #13
                          RAPresenting wrote: View Post
                          Agreed 100%. Barbosa is a great player/locker room guy but I'd rather see us invest dollars in veterans who are defensive minded. We can have a few offensive specialist players but Jose, Dre and Barbosa are too much especially on the floor at the same time. Hopefully BC doesn't invest long term dollars in him.
                          Unless Jose and Bargnani are traded. I do like him coming off the bench and I still think if he can ever get healthy he'd be a terror as we saw in glimpses this year, BUT, I do not like him at anything more than $5M per season, longer than a 3 year extension (he'll be 31/32 then), and with weak defensive players such as Bargnani and Calderon.

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                          • #14
                            At least it would reduce the number of bad contracts on the roster by one.

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                            • #15
                              I don't think barbosa has a "bad" contract. There is only 1 year left (if he picks up his option) @ 7.6 million. It sucks that he has injury problems but that's pretty common and it's only been 1 season. He provides a big spark off the bench in a similar-although not quite as polarized- way that jason terry does: sometimes he does things that are amazing and other times just amazingly stupid. If he recovers from injury well this year he has the potential to earn his contract or come close to it. I also think the expiring contract is more valuable than the cap space, unless a play for nene or gasol is remotely possible. Which it probably isn't. Barbosa is used in a ton of the mock trades we do here and although anecdotal is an indicator of the ability for him to be a a piece that facilitates a trade. I am not overly keen on extending his contract as we can probably get a younger and hopefully cheaper player as a back up to Derozen. However, a 3 year @ 5 mil would be okay by me, and it would also take care of our SG position for the next 3 years provided Derozen sticks around.
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