Like matt said, I'd definitely wait til free agency to try to get him but I've always seen him as a 3 and Horford as a 4. Even he's said he sees him as a 3. As a 3 he suits our team well. As a 4, pass
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I like this trade if it comes with an extension.
Smith and JV make for a much more intimidating presence on defence. We would be adding and All Star reaching his prime that can make Toronto not just good, but an elite defensive team. We may lose a bit offensively, but Smith can hold his own and with Lowry, Ross, and DeMar coming into his own I think we are okay on that end.
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No way, I don't like the idea of giving up Ed Davis and Bargnani together. Ed Davis has now had two straight seasons averaging a double double per 36 and he is getting the the age where big men typicaly start to come into their own. Josh Smith is a very good player but he is not that much of an upgrade over what he have right now and could be a potentially negative influence in the locker room."Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival."
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Josh Smith will be commanding a max contract.. and like Bosh, I don't think he deserves it. He's a good player but not a game changer. He'd be a good #2 on a team but not a good #1. I'd pass. I'd rather give assets away for Gay who I think is a better #1 option, or swing for the fences and trade Bargnani with a lottery team in 2013 (Muhammad/McAdoo) or 2014 (Parker/Wiggins) and try to get a potential stud that way.
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planetmars wrote: View PostJosh Smith will be commanding a max contract.. and like Bosh, I don't think he deserves it. He's a good player but not a game changer. He'd be a good #2 on a team but not a good #1. I'd pass. I'd rather give assets away for Gay who I think is a better #1 option, or swing for the fences and trade Bargnani with a lottery team in 2013 (Muhammad/McAdoo) or 2014 (Parker/Wiggins) and try to get a potential stud that way.
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hateslosing wrote: View PostNo way, I don't like the idea of giving up Ed Davis and Bargnani together. Ed Davis has now had two straight seasons averaging a double double per 36 and he is getting the the age where big men typicaly start to come into their own. Josh Smith is a very good player but he is not that much of an upgrade over what he have right now and could be a potentially negative influence in the locker room.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostThat's a good suggestion, but the only problem I see is that if you are going to play the lottery game then you're sending a clear message that your are still in a rebuilding phase. We are a little too far along now with the roster moves this summer to back track and rebuild. I was all for rebuilding through the draft prior to the moves they made for Lowry, Fields, etc. but now imo we're in too deep and we must move forward.
But in reality I don't see Bryan trading away an asset to jump back into the lottery either. I don't ever recall him trying to move up in a draft. And Casey seems to like his veterans. But if some team for example has a chance to draft Wiggins and they'd be happy to trade Bargnani for him, I'd do it. I would rather take a chance on Wiggins then give a max contract to Smith.
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I dont think its a matter of who's better between the two (bargnani/smith), but rather who would be the best fit with the core players. I think Bargnani, right now, is the better fit. he would space the floor, open the paint for lowry to penetrate and JV to work inside. I think Jsmith's jumper has improved, but not to the point to expect him to hit perimeter shots at a consistent basis.
If they get JSmith to play with Lowry, Bargnani and JV, that could be a contender in the making.
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Toronto send Andrea + DeMar DeRozan + Calderon in the midseason for Josh Smith + John Jenkins
We make the playoff, hopefully face either Celtics and Pacers and beat them but get eliminated in the second round by the Heat.
Offseason, we sign key free agents: PF - Paul Millsap = 3 years 25mil
PG - Chauncey Billups = vet minimum
C - Samuel Dalembart = 2 years 8 mil
We give Josh Smith the max, 5 years 80mil contract.
2013-14 Lineups
Lowry/Billups/Lucas
Ross/Jenkins/Anderson
Smith/Fields/Kleiza
Millsap/Davis/Acy
Valanciunas/Dalembart/2nd rounder
We will become one of the best defensive team in the East. Our starting lineups + bench players can all play defense.
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tenforthewin wrote: View PostToronto send Andrea + DeMar DeRozan + Calderon in the midseason for Josh Smith + John Jenkins
We make the playoff, hopefully face either Celtics and Pacers and beat them but get eliminated in the second round by the Heat.
Offseason, we sign key free agents: PF - Paul Millsap = 3 years 25mil
PG - Chauncey Billups = vet minimum
C - Samuel Dalembart = 2 years 8 mil
We give Josh Smith the max, 5 years 80mil contract.
2013-14 Lineups
Lowry/Billups/Lucas
Ross/Jenkins/Anderson
Smith/Fields/Kleiza
Millsap/Davis/Acy
Valanciunas/Dalembart/2nd rounder
We will become one of the best defensive team in the East. Our starting lineups + bench players can all play defense.
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tenforthewin wrote: View PostToronto send Andrea + DeMar DeRozan + Calderon in the midseason for Josh Smith + John Jenkins
We make the playoff, hopefully face either Celtics and Pacers and beat them but get eliminated in the second round by the Heat.
Offseason, we sign key free agents: PF - Paul Millsap = 3 years 25mil
PG - Chauncey Billups = vet minimum
C - Samuel Dalembart = 2 years 8 mil
We give Josh Smith the max, 5 years 80mil contract.
2013-14 Lineups
Lowry/Billups/Lucas
Ross/Jenkins/Anderson
Smith/Fields/Kleiza
Millsap/Davis/Acy
Valanciunas/Dalembart/2nd rounder
We will become one of the best defensive team in the East. Our starting lineups + bench players can all play defense.Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.
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