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  • I'm curious to see how the team plays when both Dre and JV are back. Regardless of everyone's views on him, he's an upgrade over both Acy and Gray. Ed and Amir are playing great but they need some help. Sooner he's back the better as the deadline isn't too far away.

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    • 5) Can the Raptors move Andrea Bargnani?

      The Toronto Raptors have fallen well short of expectations this season, but they have been a much better team with Andrea Bargnani out of the lineup than they were before he suffered an elbow injury that has him currently out of action. When he got hurt the Raptors had lost 10 of their last 11 games, and when he went down they went on a tear, winning eight of nine games. They are 11-9 without Bargnani, after going 4-18 with him in the lineup early on. It’s clear that what the Raptors need is a little addition by subtraction, but the fact remains that there aren’t too many teams who are excited about adding Bargnani to the mix. Toronto would love to have Pau Gasol or Wilson Chandler, in particular, but it is highly unlikely that Bargnani helps land either player.

      The NBA trade deadline is February 21.

      Read more at http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-pm-fiv...8RFM8WThA35.99
      Not again!

      No.

      Why?

      Why? Why? Why?

      WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

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      • Why are we trying to bring Pau Gasol and Wilson Chandler in? We need to feed DD, AA, JV, TRoss, Amir and ED minutes the rest of this year and see how it goes; I understand management probably has to win this season to keep their jobs, but for what? Maybe an 8th seed, but most likely a 10th seed out of the playoffs. It's not worth it. We have too many rotation and above replacement-level players, but no superstars, or players to count on in crunch time/the fourth quarter. Most teams win games in the fourth quarter; we lose games in the fourth quarter. We need picks and young players, which have guaranteed contracts, which in turn gives us cap flexibility to sign quality free agents. I believe there is a good market for NBA players wanting to come to Toronto based off the city, but I also believe a lot of them hold back their interest due to the management in Toronto.

        Nonetheless, Il Mago needs to go, despite his poor trade value at the moment. There's simply no room for him/role for him on this team.

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        • Rotoworld.com:

          Dwane Casey guessed that Andrea Bargnani (elbow) should be back before Jonas Valanciunas (finger).
          Casey is hoping that both players will be back within 10 days. Bargnani and Valanciunas are going to have to earn their minutes with Ed Davis and Amir Johnson playing solid ball over the past month.

          Nice to hear that both of them are getting helthy
          (Sorry for poor English )

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          • japetas wrote: View Post
            Rotoworld.com:

            Dwane Casey guessed that Andrea Bargnani (elbow) should be back before Jonas Valanciunas (finger).
            Casey is hoping that both players will be back within 10 days. Bargnani and Valanciunas are going to have to earn their minutes with Ed Davis and Amir Johnson playing solid ball over the past month.

            Nice to hear that both of them are getting helthy
            Nice to hear that Andrea is that much closer to being traded

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            • Raptor_11 wrote: View Post
              Nice to hear that Andrea is that much closer to being traded
              ***.... you guys can't even wait till he's healthy. Andrea has really great talent but what he lacks is heart and thats the only difference between him and ED and AJ.

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              • T.Dot wrote: View Post
                ***.... you guys can't even wait till he's healthy. Andrea has really great talent but what he lacks is heart and thats the only difference between him and ED and AJ.
                We're all aware of his talent. But they just have to move on

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                • T.Dot wrote: View Post
                  ***.... you guys can't even wait till he's healthy. Andrea has really great talent but what he lacks is heart and thats the only difference between him and ED and AJ.
                  That is a pretty important but.

                  If he had heart, ED and AJ wouldn't even be able to tie up his sneakers. His talent truly is a waste.

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                  • If andrea lived up to his porential we would of had a championship chasing team, cause believe it or not Bargnani as a specimen is one in a million and should have been dominant a guy.

                    If Batgnani had the drive to be a good player a real Alpha Dog type of guy with the mentality of "this is my tea We aren;t going to lose im going to shoot and we are going to win as long as im healthy" the sky would have truly been the limit Bargnani is talent wasted personified.

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                    • Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
                      If andrea lived up to his porential we would of had a championship chasing team, cause believe it or not Bargnani as a specimen is one in a million and should have been dominant a guy.

                      If Batgnani had the drive to be a good player a real Alpha Dog type of guy with the mentality of "this is my tea We aren;t going to lose im going to shoot and we are going to win as long as im healthy" the sky would have truly been the limit Bargnani is talent wasted personified.
                      +1 i agree. But sadly he just doesn't have that drive.

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                      • Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
                        If andrea lived up to his porential we would of had a championship chasing team, cause believe it or not Bargnani as a specimen is one in a million and should have been dominant a guy.

                        If Batgnani had the drive to be a good player a real Alpha Dog type of guy with the mentality of "this is my tea We aren;t going to lose im going to shoot and we are going to win as long as im healthy" the sky would have truly been the limit Bargnani is talent wasted personified.
                        I think the "talent" everyone refers to is simply him being tall. Is he faster, stronger, more agile than most players? Does he have incredible footwork in the post? Is he a high-flyer? Does he have superior timing when challenging shots? Is he a light-out marksman? Does he live at the FT line?

                        He's just a inefficient shooting guard who happens to be 7 feet tall.

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                        • He's a 7 footer with an outside game (and when he plays with heart, an inside game). That's fairly valuable, but he can't help the Raps in any capacity anymore. Just his being on our roster creates a negative aura around the team with him continuously floundering his potential. His potential being a dominant shooter who can drive, rebound, pass and have above-average one-on-one defense. The problem is for years only pieces have been there, but not the whole pie. The pie is currently well past rotten.

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                          • Ryan Wolstat ‏@WolstatSun

                            DeRozan still has lots of time to prove us wrong and co-exist with Gay, but Bargnani's days numbered

                            **erection**

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                            • Matt52 wrote: View Post
                              **erection**
                              +1. Post of the night

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                              • I dont see how we can get rid of bargnani now. No team would want him. How many games has he played so far?

                                We don't have the talent to trade for Millsap or Aldridge. We must have picked them over bargnooni and tucker on that fatal draft night.

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