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  • Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    It seems to me that not all the posters here who criticize various aspects of his game hate him

    I just happen to think that his team defense sucks rotten eggs and that team defense is critical to a team winning games.

    I also think he could be more efficient on offense, which actually applies to a lot of NBA players, but other than that is offense is acceptable.

    Rest assured that there is no way that I hate him.
    Buddahfan you're a good knowledgeable dude, and your enthusiasm is somewhat contagious. I think I may have moved up from Liking Amir to loving Amir!!
    I seriously think Amir and Bargs can develop into a better more effective duo than Bosh and Bargnani were.

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    • ihatehaters wrote: View Post
      Bargs is barely a top 10 player on the Raptors.
      Put that crack pipe down for at least half a day before you post...

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      • tbihis wrote: View Post
        what?? 37?? yahoo ranks him at 29, espn at 47. these are bullshit!!!!!!
        he should be at 200+, thats where the haters here at RR would probably put him
        and who are we to argue with the haters???? hahahahaha
        these espn, yahoo associates are donks compared to our bloggers!
        Fantasy rankings are completely based on numbers. We all know Bargnani is going to have good numbers but we also know he is a horrible center.

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        • How the hell is Lebrick #2 on the list? His production is going plummet now that he's on the Heat.

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          • tbihis wrote: View Post
            i was just gonna say this.

            apollo, does RR host an nba fantasy league?
            Yeah, I'll be setting up the league soon, which will be a keeper league. There are two reasons why it's not up yet. The first being that we only just drafted for our NFL league a couple weeks ago and our NHL league (CLICK HERE TO REGISTER) has yet to draft. I'll open in the league in two-three weeks and you'll find a thread in the Fantasy Sports Forum and a link in my signature that accompanies any posts I make here.

            RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
            How the hell is Lebrick #2 on the list? His production is going plummet now that he's on the Heat.
            You keep believing that and I'll keep believing he's going to be playing a Magic Johnson type roll on the court, doing a little of everything and facilitating everyone. His scoring is going to go down but I think everything else is going to go up, including efficiency.
            Last edited by Apollo; Fri Sep 3, 2010, 05:10 PM.

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            • Tim W. wrote: View Post
              Monta Ellis was 6th in the entire NBA in scoring last season. I don't see anyone touting him as an MVP candidate. Being good at scoring is great. Being a below average rebounder and defender isn't. Especially when you're a big man.

              And when people talk about Bargnani being a top 10 center, when it's pretty obvious he is not, it's a normal reaction for people to comment. If people started talking about how Jose Calderon is a top 10 PG, I'm sure it will get a lot of reaction. Offensively, Calderon very well might be a top 10 point guard, but does that make him one of the ten best in the entire league?
              No one on here is stating that Bargnani is an mvp??? The discussion is whether or not he is a top ten CENTER not top ten player in the league. Bargs is a lot closer to being a top ten center (5th in scoring last season) than Jose is to being a top ten PG (63rd in scoring last season) so your argument does not make sense. Reaction is fine but bashing a player because of others opinions is ridiculous.

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              • RaptorRoo wrote: View Post
                No one on here is stating that Bargnani is an mvp??? The discussion is whether or not he is a top ten CENTER not top ten player in the league. Bargs is a lot closer to being a top ten center (5th in scoring last season) than Jose is to being a top ten PG (63rd in scoring last season) so your argument does not make sense. Reaction is fine but bashing a player because of others opinions is ridiculous.
                Re-read what Tim wrote, now try and actually understand what he is trying to say.

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                • Buddahfan wrote: View Post
                  Gallo is very talented, no doubt.
                  Gallinari not Gallo...

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                  • CB4 wrote: View Post
                    Fantasy rankings are completely based on numbers. We all know Bargnani is going to have good numbers but we also know he is a horrible center.
                    Horrible center??? He was 5th in scoring as center last season. We all know he needs to get his rebounding and team D up but he is by no means a "horrible" center.

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                    • RaptorRoo wrote: View Post
                      Gallinari not Gallo...
                      Gallo is his nickname. It means rooster in Italian.

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                      • Pizzaman wrote: View Post
                        Buddahfan you're a good knowledgeable dude, and your enthusiasm is somewhat contagious. I think I may have moved up from Liking Amir to loving Amir!!
                        I seriously think Amir and Bargs can develop into a better more effective duo than Bosh and Bargnani were.
                        Thanks for the compliment
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                        “As a captain, I played furiously. I drew a lot of fouls, but I brought everything I had to every practice and to every game. I left everything on the court because I simply wanted the team to win”
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                        • golden wrote: View Post
                          Alas, Tim, you know the game well. But sadly, exactly what you stated is believed by the casual basketball fan, i.e. blocks = defense.

                          The best team/help defender the Raps ever had was Charles Oakley, even in the latter stages of his career, and he couldn't block my grandmother. Vince Carter had more blocks than him (almost 2-to-1), so I guess that makes VC a better defender than Oak.
                          +1
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                          “As a captain, I played furiously. I drew a lot of fouls, but I brought everything I had to every practice and to every game. I left everything on the court because I simply wanted the team to win”
                          Quote from well known personality who led their high school team to a state championship.

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                          • I usually play in a couple of 12 categories/teams roto leagues every year and Andrea looks legit at 40-50 there imo, but only with the right team building. People get easily seduced by a 3 point shooter C who will probably score many points, but his lack of rebounds is a big no-go for me, I prefer to get my rebounds (among other things) early in the draft. Points and 3s are relatively easy to find even later, I usually let the fanboys take Bargs early His blocks/3s/points are a tempting combo but I prefer a safer Marc Gasol for example. Nene+Horford worked pretty well, don't see why I should change my habits
                            I like Gallo a lot, much more than Bargs, and I expect much from him, hope NY won't let him rot as a 3 point specialist, he's more versatile than most people think...and has an understanding of the game that Andrea can only dream of. If I have to make a risky pick in a fantasy league I'd take Gallo, not Andrea, for the simple reason that with Andrea you can expect some not so shocking improvements in a few categories, basically improvements in categories he's already good at, while Gallo could really become a complete player and start contributing in almost every category.

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                            • JoePanini wrote: View Post
                              Re-read what Tim wrote, now try and actually understand what he is trying to say.
                              I know what he was trying to say and it isn't a fair statement. People are reacting and overreacting to the notion of Bargs as a top ten center but my point again is that this notion is not as far fetched as Jose being considered a top ten pg.

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                              • JoePanini wrote: View Post
                                Gallo is his nickname. It means rooster in Italian.
                                I know I'm Italian but I didnt think buddah knew that...

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