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Hotshot wrote: View Posthttp://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/20...-aminus-value/
After reading that blog about Aminu, I have sort of cooled about the idea of acquiring him because there is a chance you can grab someone cheaper and just as effective from the draft.
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Niagara Raptor wrote: View Postaminu is useless ... if he was worth of damn new Orleans would keep him so why would we want him?. ... I hope ujiri could find better then the trash from bad teams
Seriously though, it all comes down to price. Aminu is known as a limited player. He may be available on the cheap, and with the team likely not looking to add any significant money, that could be a fairly solid low-risk move.
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I'm going to side with Jalen Rose and say that shot blocking and steals are the most overrated stats in basketball because both involve gambling on defense. Big men that attempt to block shots too often aren't boxing out and are often out of position for the defensive rebound.
For example, Anthony Davis is considered an elite defender, and New Orleans led the league in blocks, but they were only 23rd in rebounds.
Jalen claims that a good defensive big man should average 3 blocks a game max. Their primary goal is to change the shot, not block it. And it makes sense to groom JV in that direction. JV definitely isn't mobile enough to recover from a missed block.
Personally, I think the team needs a younger, more mobile version of Chuck Hayes that is taller than our backup PG.
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planetmars wrote: View PostI'm not sure why you believe this is easy.
- Signing Lowry, GV and Patterson under $18M collectively is difficult especially since KL played like an all-star and will be one of the most desirable free agents
- Potentially going into luxury to swing trades for Salmons/Novak/Hansborogh to get richer contracts but additional prospects/picks (especially when picks/prospects are valued highly and many teams have cap space already) and ensuring those contracts run out in 2015
- Signing Aminu who is liked in NO and could use his skill-set just as easily as Toronto could
- Getting an extra first round pick.
I'd be very happy if that happened.. and that's not easy in my opinion.
Signing mediocre players to big contracts - now that's easy.
Resisting the urge to overspend - though the rules allow you to do just that.
Risking short term sacrifice (losing a player) in order to maintain a long term vision.
Finding a player who will be able to contribute to the team in the draft at #20.
Signing value contracts in free agency.
Obtaining another of what is one of the most highly coveted assets right now (1st round draft picks).
Pfffffft, how easy is all that?
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I doubt PF is a real concern in Ujiri's mind.
IF; PP resigns and Amir is still around we have 2 different looks at PF that have proven themselves to be significant contributors to our team on both sides of the ball. We can steal a page from Gibby's book and platoon them over the 48 minutes. Giving us 2 different skill sets at the 4. 24 minutes of expert screens and rolls to the basket & 24 minutes of pick and pop + Spacing.
I don't buy the argument that SF is major sore spot for us. Playing Ross out of position there may expose some of his limitations(both physically and talent wise) but how many outside the Top 5 on this list are real threats to take over the game? If say Chandler Parsons is absolutely torching Ross for 40, it would be at the expense of shots for Howard and Harden. That's a game I want defensively. If Chandler Parsons beats you, just demolishes you, you shake your head - pack up and get on the bus.
C is the bigger positional need. I have no idea how we solve that in the confines of our reality.
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Raptor Jesus wrote: View PostI doubt PF is a real concern in Ujiri's mind.
IF; PP resigns and Amir is still around we have 2 different looks at PF that have proven themselves to be significant contributors to our team on both sides of the ball. We can steal a page from Gibby's book and platoon them over the 48 minutes. Giving us 2 different skill sets at the 4. 24 minutes of expert screens and rolls to the basket & 24 minutes of pick and pop + Spacing.
I don't buy the argument that SF is major sore spot for us. Playing Ross out of position there may expose some of his limitations(both physically and talent wise) but how many outside the Top 5 on this list are real threats to take over the game? If say Chandler Parsons is absolutely torching Ross for 40, it would be at the expense of shots for Howard and Harden. That's a game I want defensively. If Chandler Parsons beats you, just demolishes you, you shake your head - pack up and get on the bus.
C is the bigger positional need. I have no idea how we solve that in the confines of our reality.
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vino wrote: View PostAgree on PF. Completely disagree on SF. Out of your list James, Anthony and George + Pierce/Johnson is our direct completion to get to the next level and we are not getting there without someone who can guard these guys. Ross isn't a SF and is playing out of position. If Ujiri does not see another K.Leonard in the 20-23 range on the draft board this year... trade DD to get one. Everything else will follow once Fields and Hayes are gone in one year from now.
Some thoughts:
-Anyone we draft at 20 may be a project with massive holes in their game. So I wouldn't expect such a guy to step in immediately and fix our SF problems.
-There could be a stopgap measure in free agency.
-There could be less drastic trades that wouldn't require trading a core piece to get a starting calibre SF with size.
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Raptor Jesus wrote: View PostI don't buy the argument that SF is major sore spot for us. Playing Ross out of position there may expose some of his limitations(both physically and talent wise)
Also because Ross is usually the one guarding the better of the wing players and/or the PG. The fact that we label him as a SF is a misnomer because he is often times playing the SG position defensively, and DD is playing the SF position defensively.
So I would argue that it is DD that needs to be upgraded to a larger SF in terms of his position on the defensive end of the floor.
vino wrote: View PostAgree on PF. Completely disagree on SF. Out of your list James, Anthony and George + Pierce/Johnson is our direct completion to get to the next level and we are not getting there without someone who can guard these guys. Ross isn't a SF and is playing out of position. If Ujiri does not see another K.Leonard in the 20-23 range on the draft board this year... trade DD to get one. Everything else will follow once Fields and Hayes are gone in one year from now.
2) Nobody can guard James
3) Anthony isn't all that relevant if he keeps playing like he does. He settles for jumpers so Ross should be able to handle him.
4) JJ is a problem, though GV did a good job on him...
5) Pierce is playing PF...but is also ancient, building your team to counter him at this point is not a good move.
We do need a larger SF...but unless it is the right fit/type of player who has at least D and a 3 point shot already I would say just roll with Ross
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Jclaw wrote: View Postas a follow up on what Butch Carter said, here's what he wrote (although this is more about what Casey has to do). Good read
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/n...in-at-the-end/
this is what it takes to get to the next level
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mcHAPPY wrote: View PostYeah, I don't see how it is easy either.
At some point of time we have to decide if we are an elite organization in NBA or not. Elite organizations are able to do what you said in your original post on yearly basis and this is how they stay elite. On the other hand, mediocroe teams, fail over and over and although they change coaches and GMs and ... due to the culture of their fans and organization fail to realize the mistakes and take the necessary steps to fix it.
So if we are claiming that MU is a GREAT GM and one of the BEST and ... like most people here are doing these days, after giving him over a year to "evaluate this team" and with 100% support that he getting from management and fans, then he should be EASILY accomplish these task and not fail ....
mcHAPPY wrote: View PostResisting the urge to overspend - though the rules allow you to do just that.
MU is here because he is SUPPOSE to be GREAT and he is SUPPOSE to not make the mistakes that BC made which was always OVER PAY the players.
mcHAPPY wrote: View PostRisking short term sacrifice (losing a player) in order to maintain a long term vision.
Now, it should be EASY for MU not to make the same mistake and there should be no prize for not doing that but a severe penalty if he does ... This is obvious mistake and a guy who is suppose to THIS GOOD, should not make such an amateur mistake especially when the guy before him LOST his job for making that mistake.
mcHAPPY wrote: View PostFinding a player who will be able to contribute to the team in the draft at #20.
MU is suppose to be the saviour and not another BabCock so he should again, EASILY be able to have the vision to draft the right player in that range and not mess it up ... Otherwise he is just another Babcock and another failure.
mcHAPPY wrote: View PostSigning value contracts in free agency.
This is summer for MU to make a statement and say that he has the ability to do these things ... Is it hard ? No, it is not. Almost 90% of NBA knew we overpaid for Hedo or our signing Oneal was a mistake and ...
mcHAPPY wrote: View PostObtaining another of what is one of the most highly coveted assets right now (1st round draft picks).
mcHAPPY wrote: View PostPfffffft, how easy is all that?
We all need to raise our expectation and not be happy with the bare minimum. We are not asking MU to sign a SUPER STAR this off season and make Raptors a championship team next season and ... we are only asking him to make small and smart moves toward the bigger goal and to NOT MAKE the mistakes of Babcock and BC. That is all ...
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Jamshid wrote: View Postwe are only asking him to make small and smart moves toward the bigger goal and to NOT MAKE the mistakes of Babcock and BC. That is all ...
And btw, even good GMs make mistakes because there is inherently an element of luck in predicting the future. You can stack the odds in your favour, but you can't guarantee that the most likely outcome actually happens.
All you can ask of a good GM is that he make moves that will likely favour the team."Bruno?
Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
He's terrible."
-Superjudge, 7/23
Hope you're wrong.
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