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If Cavs are looking to move top pick, Gay for #1?
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Matt52 wrote: View PostAnd that is what is lost when you make on average $18M over next 2 years.
If he was making $12-13, he never gets traded or he returns much more.@Chr1st1anL
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Matt52 wrote: View PostLets not be revisionist historians. Memphis was making a salary dump while attempting to stay competitive. They would not take back equal dollars and they had to get pieces that fit.
What might allow the Raptors to get a better package? If they took on another teams expiring contract that is currently not movable (Ben Gordon comes immediately to mind).
I would like some of what Raptors fans are smoking.
The Gay trades suggested are all salary dump; all involve the Raptors trading more salary than they receive and not just by a small margin.Last edited by Hugmenot; Wed May 29, 2013, 08:47 PM.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostLol weren't just for this trade? You sure jump ship pretty quick.
And for the record, I still don't think the Cavs would bite on a Rudy Gay offer either. I don't think it makes sense for either party.
Matt52 wrote: View PostAnd that is what is lost when you make on average $18M over next 2 years.
If he was making $12-13, he never gets traded or he returns much more.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostMemphis was making a salary dump while attempting to stay competitive.
like, they looked carefully at their roster and decided (correctly) "he just ain't worth it!" and then immediately got better redistributing his shots to conley and bayless and pondexter.
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Sources say the Cavs have already begun to explore what they can get with the No. 1 pick. If they can get a young big or small forward in return
i think val is probably the only asset we have the cavs would consider, which, no thank you
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostWhy does matter? Bell/Rogers are willing to pay the money. Thier no player in this draft that is projected to be better than Rudy Gay.
Matt52 wrote: View PostAnd that is what is lost when you make on average $18M over next 2 years.
If he was making $12-13, he never gets traded or he returns much more.
i'd call this an unprecedented proposition except the nets traded a top 3 protected pick that turned out to be damian lillard for gerald wallace just last year.
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chris wrote: View Postyeah but he gets paid 18 million! there is no value in that! you could draft porter and get 75% of what gay can do for a third of the price, though i would personally go for burke as i see no scenario where he does suceed in today's game.
You then read a report that the team has just pulled a deal sending that #1 pick to Toronto for Rudy Gay. How do you feel? Keep in mind what you just wrote above...
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Apollo wrote: View PostLet's pretend for a minute that you're a Cavs fan and you're pumped that the team has been dealt aces.
You then read a report that the team has just pulled a deal sending that #1 pick to Toronto for Rudy Gay. How do you feel? Keep in mind what you just wrote above...
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i view the concept of value in this league as a marriage of ability, potential, and price. so, in my mind, rudy gay has high ability, zero potential (he is what he is), and costs a fortune, hence he has low value.
a number one overall pick has variable ability (but it usually is pretty high), off the charts potential, and a rookie scale contract, hence extremely high value. once the rookie contract is up you can set the price if you don't like where the ability level is at or feel the potential is limited, or walk away altogether.
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Apollo wrote: View PostLet's pretend for a minute that you're a Cavs fan and you're pumped that the team has been dealt aces.
You then read a report that the team has just pulled a deal sending that #1 pick to Toronto for Rudy Gay. How do you feel? Keep in mind what you just wrote above...
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also thinking about it for 30 more seconds he might be a better fit as he's billed as a very good overall player who does most things well but nothing spectacular, and could blend in, whereas rudy demands touches and would there be enough to go around with irving and waiters?
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