Gay has made his big bucks contract though, so as long as his next contract is fair I don't think money will be as much of a factor as happiness and being on a competitive team, imo. It's his team for now and he's got his good buddies around him so that takes care of the happiness. Now it's time for Ujiri to put a better supporting cast around him.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostGay has made his big bucks contract though, so as long as his next contract is fair I don't think money will be as much of a factor as happiness and being on a competitive team, imo. It's his team for now and he's got his good buddies around him so that takes care of the happiness. Now it's time for Ujiri to put a better supporting cast around him.
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Mundy wrote: View PostLowry has been training relentlessly this summer
This is the only part of the article that I really cared about
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psrs1 wrote: View PostEvery year we get media pumping up a player or coach or new system with great promise for the upcoming season. In fact I suggest the frequency of these types of articles will increase in frequency as we get into October. I am not buying it. I remember a 6-1 preseason followed by a 4-19 run. Don't get sucked in......until we actually win some regular season games with some consistency it is meaningless. Remember the media's job is to see papers or subscriptions to their web site by drumming up interest.
I dunno. I'm certainly not expecting huge improvements either, but a little positivity every now and then doesn't hurt.Twitter - @thekid_it
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isaacthompson wrote: View PostSaying he's been training relentlessly isn't media pumping a player, training relentlessly is a fact. He's lost a significant amount of weight as well.
I dunno. I'm certainly not expecting huge improvements either, but a little positivity every now and then doesn't hurt.You come at the King, you best not miss.
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Mr.Z wrote: View PostHow is someone saying he trains relentlessly a fact? Not saying he doesn't because I don't know, but that's my point, how do we know its a fact?
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Mr.Z wrote: View PostHow is someone saying he trains relentlessly a fact? Not saying he doesn't because I don't know, but that's my point, how do we know its a fact?
I think it goes without saying that all NBA players have to work hard in order to keep their level of play up, keep their role on a team secure, or even just to keep a spot on a roster. There's obviously some exceptions (Lamar Odom, etc.) but that's generally the status quo.
You also have to remember that Kyle is going into a contract year so if he has his head straight, he's probably doing everything in his power to get in shape.
My original point was that the media may be right when they say he's been training relentlessly, but assuming the work he puts in will automatically translate into game situations? That's kind of silly.Twitter - @thekid_it
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Mr.Z wrote: View PostHow is someone saying he trains relentlessly a fact? Not saying he doesn't because I don't know, but that's my point, how do we know its a fact?
Definition of relentless:
1. Unyielding in severity or strictness; unrelenting: relentless persecution.
2. Steady and persistent; unremitting:
Words have meaning. When someone writes "training relentlessly" about an athlete who has been mailing it in, that writer loses all credibility. So you assume that the writer (whose only ticket to write is their credibility) will have done the checking and established the factual truth.
Not trying to be a dick about this but I don't see anything strange about assuming the truth of a statement like "training relentlessly" coming from a media outlet.
Now when weasel words like "word around the league says" or "reports have been coming in about" then you acknowledge that the write has no personal knowledge or reliable second hand knowledge of an issue. Those statement prefaces are an admittance that whatever follows is not "a fact" but only a "strong possibility."
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Xixak wrote: View PostConfused about this also. "Training relentlessly" is kind of arbitrary, so it's pretty difficult to refer to something like that as a fact, because nobody really knows what relentless training is, or has been for Lowry in the past.
That said, I actually feel positive in Kyles case, I think he is a tough kid, and I think he feels challenged. I expect he will be every bit as fit as speculated. He's a warrior...now only if they can teach him to pass.
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Puffer wrote: View PostWhen a media outlet states that someone has been "training relentlessly" you are going on the premise that the writer is not just making stuff up. You assume they have talked to the person they are speaking about, or to people associated with that person who have eyewitness accounts speaking to that fact. You don't ever ask to see a training schedule published that has little check marks beside each day when training occurred and a notation with how many hours and an indicator of intensity.
Definition of relentless:
1. Unyielding in severity or strictness; unrelenting: relentless persecution.
2. Steady and persistent; unremitting:
Words have meaning. When someone writes "training relentlessly" about an athlete who has been mailing it in, that writer loses all credibility. So you assume that the writer (whose only ticket to write is their credibility) will have done the checking and established the factual truth.
Not trying to be a dick about this but I don't see anything strange about assuming the truth of a statement like "training relentlessly" coming from a media outlet.
Now when weasel words like "word around the league says" or "reports have been coming in about" then you acknowledge that the write has no personal knowledge or reliable second hand knowledge of an issue. Those statement prefaces are an admittance that whatever follows is not "a fact" but only a "strong possibility."You come at the King, you best not miss.
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psrs1 wrote: View PostEvery year we get media pumping up a player or coach or new system with great promise for the upcoming season. In fact I suggest the frequency of these types of articles will increase in frequency as we get into October. I am not buying it. I remember a 6-1 preseason followed by a 4-19 run. Don't get sucked in......until we actually win some regular season games with some consistency it is meaningless. Remember the media's job is to see papers or subscriptions to their web site by drumming up interest.Last edited by Mundy; Tue Aug 27, 2013, 02:57 PM."This just in........ THE RAPTORS ARE AMAZING!"
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Look, I'm sure Lowry is training very hard. Honestly, there's never really been a concern about Kyle Lowry's work ethic, has there? It's always been very clear he's willing to bust ass.
The problem with Kyle Lowry throughout his career is not one of work ethic: it's the fact that he's been a troublesome presence in many a locker room (he was even getting called out for it last year in Toronto!), and no amount of redefining the word "relentlessly" is going to change that.
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