Gameday: Raptors vs Warriors – Mar. 25/11

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The most frustrating part of the Suns game, for me, was that Phoenix hit more 3-pointers than the Raptors attempted free throws. While Gortat swatted five shots, the Raptors did a poor job of getting into the paint and drawing contact, check the shot chart:

Most of the action was in the mid-range with a few of those deeeeep jumpers; I’m not even showing the misses. It’s not like the Suns are super deep in the front court or anything, getting one or two of their guys who open up the paint nice and wide, but no, didn’t see any of that; shoot the ball against a weak defensive team, makes sense to me…

I reached out to my man, J.M. Poulard from Warriors World about the game tonight:

We were big fans of Ekpe Udoh (got him on a podcast) before the draft; gotta love big, athletic forwards who defend like champs. What’s your take on him?
Imagine a game in which the Los Angeles Lakers are playing and then suddenly they pass the ball to someone wearing a Celtics jersey; that would be weird right? In a nutshell, that’s Udoh. On a team that is so concerned with scoring, his defensive contributions just stand out when watching the Warriors play.

He does a good job of always playing hard and sprinting up and down the court to beat his man to the spot. He does not yet have the strength to match up with most power forwards and centers, however he does little things to try and throw off the timing of players he defends. For instance, he’ll shade his man to one side and dare him to drive to other, and then on the following possession he’ll shade to the opposite side or simply send the offensive player towards his help.

He always stays active and makes sure to get a body on someone once a shot goes up. Ekpe Udo is learning on the job, but he is doing a good job of doing so.

If you could take back the David Lee transaction from the summer, would you?
Initially, I was not a big fan of the David Lee move given the steep price the Warriors paid for him.  But the important thing is to look around the league and compare him to other players with relatively similar games and ages, and then it’s easier to gain some perspective on the move. Have a look below:

Player Age 2010-11 Salary* PPG RPG FG%
LaMarcus Aldridge 25 $10.7 22.2 8.7 50.0
Andrea Bargani 25 $8.0 22.0 5.4 45.0
Carlos Boozer 29 $14.4 18.0 9.3 52.3
David Lee 27 $10.8 15.9 9.5 49.1
Paul Millsap 26 $6.2 17.2 7.8 53.2
David West 31 $8.0 18.7 7.6 50.8

*Salary figures obtained from Hoopshype.

We are all aware of Lee’s shortcomings on defense, but he is still able to score efficiently and rebound the basketball, which is what teams ask their big men to do. Furthermore, you could even make the case that he should get more touches than what he is currently getting. With that said, I do feel as though he is a bit overpaid, but not necessarily by that much; his market value should be right around $8.0 million per season.

So to answer your question, I would probably still have made the transaction; although I would have tried to sign him for a bit less.

So there’s always been the perception that Curry and Ellis wouldn’t work well together, what do you have to say to that?
Stephen Curry helps out Monta Ellis immensely on the offensive end with his playmaking ability as well as his ability to stretch the floor. Monta benefits from some driving lanes just by having Curry on the floor and also does not always have to handle the ball to get his points since Steph can lead the break and feed him once he gets a full head of steam.

On the flip side, the former Davidson star defers far too much to Ellis and I’m not sure that Monta would have it any other way. At times, Curry is asked to just stand in the corner and wait for the ball, which isn’t really his strong suit.

Also, both players put the word defense to shame; which is kind of relevant when teams traditionally seek to keep players out of the paint. Ellis and Curry struggle in that department, thus opposing backcourts usually have good scoring nights against them. For the time being, the perception seems to be true, but to be fair I would like to see them play under a head coach that stresses defense. That’s when I feel like we’d get a better indication of whether they are truly doomed to fail.

The front office and coaching staff could look very different come next season; barring any lock out. Have they earned their keep? If not, who could be there replacement?
Although I do not have any insider info to confirm this, it seems to me that management wants a team that gets out and run and puts points on the board. As a result, Smart was brought in to have the team do just that. However, the defense has been atrocious which has made for several high scoring games, but a lot of losses.

Management has done a semi-decent job with the personnel, bringing in Dorrel Wright and David Lee last summer. Mind you, the rest of the roster does not seem to fit. There are several offensive minded players on the team, none of which are exactly fans of passing the ball. At times, it’s as if there are four J.R. Smith’s out on the court.

I would love to see Kevin Pritchard get a shot in Golden State. Save for the Oden over Durant draft move, he’s been very good at acquiring talent on the roster through the draft and also through trades. He was behind the drafting of Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge (this happened with team president Steve Patterson serving as interim general manager but Pritchard was credited with much of the negotiation of the trades to acquire the picks that made the moves happen), he also acquired Rudy Fernandez and Nicolas Batum through the draft, signed Andre Miller in free agency and acquired Marcus Camby via trade.

As far as a head coach, Jim O’Brien would be my pick. He has figured out ways to overachieve in the past (think of the 2002 Boston Celtics) by instilling a good (not great) offense but a solid defense that managed to keep his teams in games.

How do the Warriors match-up with the Raptors? What are you expecting to see tonight?
Dunks, lay ups and more dunks. The Raptors allow the most shots directly at the basket in the league while Golden State allows the fourth most; so we should expect to see some highlights in this one. Furthermore, the Warriors 3-point shooting should be a huge factor in this game given the fact that Toronto surrenders 37.3% shooting from deep on the season. If the Warriors settle for outside shots while the Raptors keep getting attempts directly at the rim, expect the Raptors to roll at Oracle Arena.

Mind you, if the Dubs can blend their shooting from deep with their interior scoring, the Raptors might be in trouble. I would have to think that the Dubs should be able to hit shots at home while the Raptors will stay close in this one.

Injury Report

Linas Kleiza – Out
Reggie Evans – Day to day
Amir Johnson – Day to day
Joey Dorsey – Day to day

Golden State
Andris Biedrins – Out

Player Report

Jose Calderon
He’s going to get raped by Stephen Curry tonight. Yea, he will get  some of it back, but he wont match Curry’s production (34pts 5rebs 4ast 3stls from the last time they played). In all fairness, Curry did that damage against Jack, but I’m pretty sure it’s safe to predict the same result.

DeMar DeRozan
Ellis has seen a recent dip in his production, 15pts 4.6rebs 5.4ast over the last 5, but the Raptor defense should revive him. He dropped 28 on 59% shooting the last time out, and wont be an easy check. DeMar has size and strength on him, but Ellis is a freak off the dribble, and will prove too much.

James Johnson
Both James Johnson and Dorell Wright escaped a bad situation with the team that drafted them, and have gone on to much better things where they landed on. In Dorell’s case, the improvement has him as one of the favourites to win the Most Improved Player award. Johnson is a better defender, and has more hop to his step, but Dorell will keep him on the perimeter and away from help as much on defense.

Power Forward
Amir starts, Reggie gets more minutes, and Ed throws in his contribution. However, all three stank up the place against the Suns on Wednesday, so I’m lumping them in together now. They got Ekpe Udoh, and we get our first glimpse of the kid against the Raptors. This should be a lame match-up.

Andrea Bargnani
He’s gonna score 30 on Lee; Lee will drop 24, but add 19 rebounds.  I think that about covers it.

The Line

The Warriors are 7 point favourites with an over/under of 215. Like J.M. said above “Dunks, lay ups and more dunks.” Expect an exciting game, but this one smells as though things can get out of hand.


  1. Got my first look at Derrick Williams play last night. Sure he had a career night, but man, does he look impressive! I’m thinking a slightly skinnier Blake Griffin, but with 3 point range.

    Draft Express currently has him as the 5th pick. Although we desperately need a PG and/or SF, I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on Williams. He’s a bit undersized, but he’s got decent handles, and could potentially be groomed as a SF with great post-up abilities.

    People keep harping that it’ll be a weak draft, but I see a lot of great players capable of helping the Raptors immensely….maybe not immediately, but eventually.

    • Got to see a few Arizona games this year. He’s definitely not Griffin explosive but he was Pac 10 freshman of the year last year and has no doubt elevated his game this year. I don’t see Williams as lasting to the 5th pick as most scouts have had him in the top 3 all year, some going #1. I think the draft will yield some players but outside of the top 3 slots the guys that can make a difference on your team start getting slim and you start getting into role/rotation players.

      Noticed K.Love is probably going to sit out the rest of the year. Why do the Raps have guys like Amir still playing now? If he’s nicked up please sit him out. Reggie Evans shouldn’t be listed as ‘day-to day’. If he even has a minor hangnail injury he should be sitting beside the trainer in a suit jacket while the young guys are getting burn at the end of this wretched season. These are now meaningless games. See what these young guys have inlcuding Wright, Ajinca, Alabi and whoever else you need to evaluate.

      • He’s a solid shooter as he doesn’t force his looks. He shoots close to 60% from the 3 because he typically limits his attempts but his efficiency is off the charts obviously. Some of it might have to do with him playing in the Pac-10 or maybe he’s just as good as advertised?

        The only concern I would have is that he plays on the blocks a lot and many scouts project him as a 4. He’d have to be a 3 in the NBA which means in the draft workouts his handles will be tested.

            • I agree he might indeed by a good 3 in the NBA but I don’t think he has Pierce’s handle. I think thats going to be the biggest challenge for him playing the 3 in the league.

              • IIRC, Pierce’s handle wasn’t particularly well-developed when he was at Kansas. Super-physical and somewhat skilled players, like Pierce and Williams, have a lot of time to work on their handle, etc., once they get drafted and become NBA players, provide they have the required work ethic to become the best in the game. In this regard, Williams looks as though he has what it will take to succeed at the next level of competition.

        • Agree with this. Admitedly have only seen him in a handful of games, but has been impressive in pretty much all of them (tourney games plus Pac 10 games down the stretch that were on TV). At gunpoint, I still think Id take Barnes over him as a SF – but Id be happy with either. I do not see Williams succeeding as a 4 in the league .. so even though he is being projected as a tweener, id be happy to have him fill our 3 spot. To be honest, it would be nice to have some differentiation with our 3s – since the MO has been to haul out 2s and 3s that are pretty similar (JJ would be the expection lately I guess). Sure, his handles are a little weak for 3 – but he would be a tough guard for the quicker 3s, so it would even out.
          And – if he did play a little bit of 4 in teh David West mold, it wouldnt be the worst thing either. All in all – hopefully a guy that we take a long hard look at, although, as people have mentioned, his stock started out high and is rising like a rocket, so not sure how long he will last.

      • Derrick Williams reminds me a lot of Glenn Robinson and Michael Beasley, but with slightly better defense. Unfortunately, I don’t see him being a good defender at the 3 or 4 in the NBA. He’s undersized for the 4 and doesn’t really have the lateral quicks to defend the 3 well. He does, however, seem more willing to defend than Robinson or Beasley.

        I wouldn’t be completely against drafting Williams, if Irving is gone, but I think drafting him makes Bargnani completely expendable, because defense is neither one’s strong suit.

        • I read his profile on draft express and I wasn’t too impressed with the defensive description.

          Michael Beasly was also mentioned as a comp in the article. If that’s the truth, I would stay away.

          • I read that comparison too. I think it’s hard to find top prospects who know how to play good defense, especially when we’re talking about freshmen and sophomores who got to where they are now primarily by being great scorers in high school.

            But hey, we can always give him 5 years to learn defense 😛

          • Beasley never played with the intensity that Williams showed against Duke last night. Williams seals in the post and fights for position. He hustles and runs the floor. The only comparison to Beasley is that they are both efficient college scorers. And, well, last night he looked like the best defender on the court against a really good Duke team.

            I still think he’s a 4 given his ability to score around the rim, play pick and roll, and rebound. He reminds me more of David West than Paul Pierce though I understand the Pierce comparison cause they are similar physically.

          • Beasley was the first person I thought of the first time I saw Williams play. As I said, Williams does seem to WANT to play defense more than Beasley ever has, but I just think he’s a tweener on defense, which I can see hurting him at the next level. One big problem with Beasley, though, is he’s a bit of a headcase, which Williams does not seem to be. Williams also has a much higher basketball IQ. I think Williams will be a good player at the next level, better than Beasley, but I just can’t see him and Bargnani being able to co-exist. Williams will need to play with a better defensive front line.

          • Comparisons/evaluations which link Derrick Williams with Michael Beasley or Glenn Robinson, for example, will eventually be proven wrong, once Derrick gets to the NBA. Derrick Williams is a #3/SF, not a tweener … despite what sites like DraftExpress might try to tell you … and, he is going to be a top player in the league for years to come.

              • It’s too early to set something like that in stone this year. For example, yesterday on Yahoo Sports!, Greg Anthony and Marc Spears discussed at least 7-8 players – e.g. Jones, Sullinger, Irving, Barnes, Williams, Kantner, and Walker – who they believed might be chosen first overall by whatever team gets the No. 1 [overall] Selection in this year’s Draft Lottery, based on need and how they might happen to individually evaluate this year’s crop of prospects. This is an unusually high number for this point in the season.

              • He hasn’t seem him play anymore than you or me. khandor always makes these definitive statements where he argues by assertion but the basis for his claims is usually as compelling as your grandpa’s arguments about why movies were so much better in 1948.

        • Hey Tim,

          I can see the Michael Beasley comparison but not the Glen Robinson so much(who was so fun to watch in Purdue).

          Big Dog made everything look in slow motion and so easy on the offensive end. Robinson, I think, could create much easier on the perimeter and shoot it off the dribble at much better rate than williams. He made it look so easy. In comparison Williams is much more a banger in the post and I think alot of his game is predicated on outworking his defender. Glen did most of his damage, again, in my opinion, on natural skill. IMO.

          Thanks for the Big Dog reference though. Takes me back to some fun times and great games.

          • I barely remember watching Robinson play at Purdue. It was so long ago, but the comparison I see is that both are/were tweeners a bit on defense and more offensive minded. Both players have/had high basketball IQs, as well.

      • Williams has certainly done an out of this world job of improving his basketball skills. However, I dont think he has the handles to be a successful, frontline nba 3, in my opinion. This being said, I have no problem drafting him if he is the best available player at my spot, but I wouldn’t trade up for him with the purpose of converting him into a 3.

        I think his best comparible would be a more athletic David West type with a little better handle and longer range. Ideally I’d want my 3 to be more creative and have the capability to shoot it off the bounce. I haven’t seen these skills in Williams with any consistency (granted I’ve only seen about 5 or 6 of his games).

      • I think he has what LBJ wants to have to make his game complete (excellent 3 point shooting) and Melo wishes to have (high and ridiculous FG%) plus he has the bulk to play the SF position in the NBA. I think he will be special!

          • In terms in making the 3 at a decent clip, LBJ is found wanting there as he is a streaky jumpshooter and that flaw imo with his non-existent post game is keeping him from being legendary and being a nightmare for defenses. My 2 cents.

    • I’ve watched DWill since hs and he is the truth. A bit of a tweener in the NBA but size don’t mean ish as heart, hustle can make up for that lack of preferred height. If he keeps working on his game the sky is the limit on his talent. I can see him going top 3 if his pre draft workouts/interviews go well.

      More comparable to Andre Iguodala in my mind.

      Anyway Rap’s lose 120-110 tonite in a high paced rat ball type of game- Jay blames youth & inexperience plus the lack of making shats (Smitch voice) down the stretch.

    • Derrick Williams is being projected as a PF by but I don’t know much PFs can shoot up to the 3 and handle the ball like a guard like the Derrick Williams does. I think the Derrick Williams will be special, he is 20, plays defense, handles the rock and has unlimited range up to the 3 point line!. Furthermore, Derrick Williams has a body to play the SF position and does not need to put any weight unlike our last 2 draft picks. My 2 cents.

        • The chances of the Toronto Raptors getting him will be based on our luck in the lottery (a Top 3 pick gets him imo) or a trade up to get him dangling Bargnani, Julian Wright, Weems, Bayless, some future first round picks (not all! but whatever it takes to get Derrick Williams, I believe he is a franchise player imo and has heart which is very important for an athlete) as bait in the draft (however, with this option, we hope Wizards (they need an SF) and Cleveland (they need any player at any position lmao) don’t get to have an opportunity to pick him 🙁 ).

      • Williams doesn’t have an nba handle to play the 3 at an above average level and he certainly doesn’t handle the ball like a guard. I’d say he’s closer to dribbling the ball like Shareef-Abdul Raheem or John Wallace than he is to a good nba 3.

        Do you have a comparable to what guard or sf you think he has similar handles to?

  2. Ellis or Curry (more likely) will join a very exclusive club tonight that includes Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Trevor Booker (i LOL @ that every time).

  3. Last win in Golden State was in 2004, Jalen Rose broke a finger and Kevin O’Neil breaks a lamp.

    Damn…that’s a looooong time…….ever since we played in Golden State, we “think” we can play their tempo, but nooooooo, we just don’t have the talent to do so, and never have.

  4. I can’t believe he put Andrea in the category of those guys, when many of the most knowledgeable Raptors fans think the team would be better if he didn’t play and don’t think he should start.

  5. personally I think its too much of a risk to draft williams, a tweener without a PF body who doesn’t have good ball handling skills, yikes!!!

    My order of preference:

    • Based on last night, his ball handling didn’t look all that bad actually. But it was noticably better than DeRozan’s handles last year.

      • That was what I was saying too – his ball handling is way developed for a 20 year old kid! Consequently, his defense was stellar against Duke last night and trust me, Duke are no push-overs. If you are looking for a red flag player in this draft, Derrick Williams is not one, Perry Jones is imo.

    • Lol really? Kanter over Barnes and Williams? Kanter is an undersized center whose knees are like porcelain. I’d even take Perry Jones over Kanter, throw Kemba Walker in there as well.

      • kanter is important simply because

        1)compliments the low scoring davis well
        and more importantly
        2)ensures we get rid of bargnani

        • Don’t care if he’s more important, too risky and could be a Greg Oden 2.0. Nothing is a sure thing in the draft, but he’s among the furthest from it. Good player, but I wouldn’t pass those aforementioned guys for him.

  6. Sorry Sam, didn’t mean to hi-jack your article with a non gameday-related topic. It’s just that March Madness seems much more intriguing than a discussion involving 2 teams with 93 combined losses 😉

  7. Irving, Williams and Sullinger i think are the safest bets not to be total busts, after that I think we land in the (SF = Barnes, T. Jones, P. Jones) vs C Kanter debate, for some reason I think BC will take Kanter and keep kleiza and jj at sf

  8. i was extremely impressed with derrick wiliams. how impressed? well, i think i’d take him above kyrie irving. he was so dominant against a strong duke team, that i think he makes an immediate impact. his offencive game is very balanced. the second chance points on offencive rebounds, the aggression, going right at the defence, and his three shooting tell me he’s a franchise player. duke had no answer for his physicality. and he also showed a real kiler instict, the one knock on harrison barnes.

    as others have stated, DW is an NBA Small Forward. he wont be quite tall enough or big enough vs the pro games big men. but, as a wing that can play the 4 for short spells against small line-ups, he’d be great. a few posts have compared him to glen robinson and beasley. that is short changing this guy. he is far more physical then both. i think his game resembles lebrons. partly because he has guard type athleticism in a linebackers body. sure, he wont be the playmaker LBJ is, but if you peruse the tournaments boxes, you will notice DW picks up blocks, steals, and the odd assist to go with points and rebounds. and he gets to the line a fair amount.

    just love this guys game, and would totaly love a player like this who can do it all himself. “take it to the hole” as they say.

    the raps ought to get a PG via trade: preferably using bargs as the main asset in any deal. as i’ve said b4, i’d target denver, and lawson or felton. my draft board is as follows:

    1. derrick williams
    2. kyrie irving
    3. harrsion barnes
    4. sullinger

    if we took sullinger, you have to turn around and deal him or ed davis in my mind. maybe you get that elusive PG then?

    • I wonder if either Cleveland, Washington, Sacramento or Minnesota would be willing to trade their pick for a little “veteran leadership” in the form of Bargnani and/or Calderon. Then we miraculously end up with 2 of these 4 kids.

      I can’t think of a better situation where Colangelo’s used car salesman skills would come in handy…

      • it would take a miracle to deal calderon for a draft pick, @ 9 million a year and highly underrated, bargnani to washington maybe……

      • Funny thing is that in the mock 2011 NBA draft at – teams in the Top 10 are getting similarly skilled players except the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Toronto Raptors who have weaknesses at multiple positions lol. Have a look at From the link – Sacramento Kings take Jonas Valaciunas a center(when they already have a franchise center in Demarcus Cousins and a capable center that likely bulks up this summer in Hassan Whiteside), Minnesota Timberwolves take Jared Sullinger a power forward (when they have their frontline filled with Kevin Love (who does what Jared Sullinger does and still makes 3s at a decent clip), Darko Milicic (a clear case of a player that needed change of scenery, having a stellar year in Minnesota blocking shots and rebounding as a big man) and Nikola Pekovic) and Detroit Pistons take Enes Kanter (when they already a capable center in Greg Monroe who is having a stellar year and backups in Chris Wilcox and Ben Wallace). Imo, I see a lot of draft day trades for those picks, I mentioned earlier – the question to ask the Toronto Raptors brass is can they shore up the 3 positions of weakness this year(PG,SF,C) by dangling our young ones in Bargnani, Julian Wright, Bayless, Weems and some future first round picks by trading for such draft picks? That is the million dollar question right now.

        • well, smushmush,u make a couple of good points. 1. some of these mock drafts make no sense at all, and 2. the raps should try to pry away a pick from another team in the top 4. (and u r right, washington is an obvious target. bargs to the wiz would be a good shot. minny and sacto would be the other two. i dont think cleveland will trade its pick.)

          here is the trouble with that thinking: the draft is not deep. to my eye the talent in the first 10 picks is quite good. but, its a steep cliff after that. and of the those early picks, few r nba ready. maybe williams and sullinger, but after that u r three years away. of the bad teams, only the wizards seem loaded with young talent. everyone else, like the raps, are pretty small on talent. everyone talks of davis and derozan being untouchable, but i’d consider every asset trade-able. we basically have 3 starting postions we r filling with subs. we need a starting nba lineup. and i’/d do what i can to maximize value.

          • As Im watching the start of this UK / OSU game all I can think about is please please please please can we not draft Sullinger. His stats might look good in college, but he cant get off the ground, cant defend and will not translate in the NBA.

            • mountio: u read my mind. some sites have him listed at 286! yikes! he will almost certainly have weight issues in a couple years. for a guy 6’8″, he is waaay too big. if we draft him, i think its only to trade him. barring a miracle and kyrie falling to us, we get a wing: be it, williams, barnes, or one of the joneses.

              • Agree completely .. weight problem waiting to happen. And, even on the off chance he can keep it under control, he doesnt have enough skill to be effective to be a 6’8″ /250ish NBA player. Im on the same page as you with Kyrie,Barnes, Willams (probably in that order ..)

              • Perry Jones is a huge red flag imo though – I will be okay with Barnes, Derrick Williams, Terrence Jones (he is down on my list now because he is similarly skilled to our current starting SF in James Johnson – does a little of everything but not one thing good enough, basically a jack of all trades, master of none 🙁 ) in that order if we do not get Irving.

            • You are right about Jared Sullinger, he is too much power and little finesse for a power forward – basically, he is a Carlos Boozer that gets shut down in the playoffs by opposing “long” defenses! and that is definitely, a red flag. He can help his game imo by getting into shot-blockers and learning to utilize pump fakes, shoulder fakes and head fakes to be serviceable on the offensive end and learning how to take and make an 18 footer jumpshot to draw defenders from the basket too might help his game – basically, a Zach Randolph. In conclusion, he has Carlos Boozer’s game right now, but he needs to have Zach Randolph’s game if he want to be serviceable on the offensive end.

              PS A player can defend by taking charges even if he can’t get off the ground lmao – for evidence in the NBA, look at Glen “Big Baby” Davis (who has the same body type as Jared Sullinger lol) who is one of the players with the most charges taken in the NBA this season. Jared Sullinger needs to learn that too if he wants to be serviceable too on the defensive end.

              Overall, lots of flaws 🙁 as Jared Sullinger might actually be a “project” player who might pan out or not :(.

              • i dont know what sentence is more of a head scratcher for me – the one where you have williams’ name in the same sentence as LBJ, or the one where you it sounds like you dont like sullinger but then say he is carlos boozer.

                There are some odd comparisons out there including the one where someone (cant remember who compares jimmer to AI !?!?!?!?!?!?!?)

              • Only problem is Z-Bo is 6’9″/6″10 and resonably athletic, wheras Sullinger is probably 6’7″ at best (listed as more, but doesnt seem it) .. so even if Sullinger developed skills similar to Z-Bo, dont think hed be nearly as effective.
                And yes, a player can make up for their defensive abilities by taking charges, for sure. By they have to have the lateral quicks to get in the right spot. Big baby does .. we will see with Sullinger

  9. The sleeper in this draft imo is Kemba Walker. A bit on the small side which dilutes his defense but he has “it”. Other smallish pgs like Jennings and Curry have shown they can handle the rigors and I think KW could be better than both.

    • The only thing I would say is that I belive both of those players are a little taller than Kemba. Jennings is a natural 1 and a playmaker, while Curry’s game is more similar but he is slightly taller and a better shooter.

      That being said Kemba’s quickness is great. He probably needs to work on being a better playmaker and ball distributor like Curry has.

  10. Derrick Williams and Brandon knight- whatever BC has to do to get these 2 guys -do it then watch them grow.

  11. Guys – I will mention 2 under the radar guys that will be touted by San Antonio Spurs as a “steal” (they are not even considered for the 2nd round!), they are Matt Howard of Butler and Tyler Zeller of North Carolina – big men who play in the post, tough, rebound and defend coming from very good programs in the Brad Stevens (a very good coach) led Butler and North Carolina. The question is that is our inept drafting team led by “I should be fired – look at my draft record” Jim Kelly looking out for such “steals” or they only know to scout players for the lottery picks smh?

    • 55-84 with 0:48 left in the second half, are you kidding me? I am really happy, I did not watch that game lol. Like really, 84 in the first half? wtf sigh. Yeah, this is a new low.

      • Pointers to the carnage of a game, the Toronto Raptors played in the first half –

        – Approximately 70% FG%, 80% 3 pt % and 80% from the free throw line (18 free throws at the half) – one word ewww! Worst defense in a long time lmao.

        – Bargs is 2-7 for 7 points and 0 rebounds lmao. Can the Bargs supporters come out now lol?

        • Dont have to worry about rebounds when you just let the other team score!
          We suck .. good thing these late college games have been great – couldnt even bare to flip to the raps at commercials after a while. Huge UK win. Sullinger gets great stats but if you watch the game was not impactful at all and will be an NBA bust.

    • Thank GAWD I was playing Uncharted 2 multiplayer on my PS3, i gotta unlock those skins by leveling up…

  12. Brandon Knight is just a chucker (any shot looks good smh, absolutely horrible shot selection 🙁 ) smh – I was comparing him to Russell Westbrook since he is a scoring type of point guard but I was wrong, more like Iverson to me :(.

  13. not sure why all the love for brandon knight? he is a scoring PG. and everyone in the nba is going away from these types, unless they create for others. we got bayless fo nothing because of this. the marbury prototype has been exposed. knight wont make anyone else better. just take a shit load of his own shots. same with kemba walker.

    btw, at the half 84-58 GS. awesome. bargs was 2-7, minus 26 with no rebounds!!! no rebounds against david lee? r u kidding me? we gotta get rid of this bum.

  14. i knew this game everyone and i mean EVERYONE would say he needs to go his worst game of the season cant argue with that when your leading scorer has 7 pts 5 assists and no boards you would expect something better against a team like this *sigh

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