The “this game brought to you by Dr Martens” edition:

Barbosa: a spark? He’s supposed to provide a spark?  Listen, if he was giving his brother’s car a boost and he intentionally touched the jumpers together, rather than get sparks you would see a puff of smoke and some dripping water with the sound of a fizzle.

Bargnani: finally showing signs of prolonged fatigue, he took a step back….and only scored 22 points. Just as with the rest of his teammates, you could tell he was sucking in air pretty good, but unlike his teammates he was more than just a flash of his normal self.

Butler: if I had to describe his game (not just this one…every one) to a non-basketball fan, I’d say it would be as important to a successful victory as taking a wet paper towel to Niagara Falls, getting on the Maid of The Mist and, just as the boat got close to the falls, you tried to dry the deck with said paper towel. A venture full of frustration.

Calderon: how did the Raptors do tonight? If I told you Jose had 4 turnovers all of them unforced…..yeah, there you go. Guess there was less incentive facing Wall than there was Rubio.

Carter: 50% from the floor, 66% from 3, 8pts, 6asts…..he was a machine compared to the rest of the second unit tonight. In a way he reminds me of a discount Nash. He comes in, is all business and goes about making things happen.

Davis: Dad is in the crowd and you still can’t hit the hoop from 1.5 feet out. Don’t let the stat line fool you. You want to get a snapshot of his night? Watch the final minute where he started to press as the Wizards were bringing the ball up and, as he went to reach in, instead of really trying for the steal, he just motioned with his hand as if to say “ahhh, forget it” and backed off.  Sure, we were done and no chance of a come back, but that was ugly to see.

DeRozan: listless. boring. less desire to attack the hole than a doctor at a herpes clinic.  Sure, you can say your head is busy trying to learn defensive schemes and a new system, but when you and your team is getting your ass handed to you by a team that has yet to win a game, you might want to choose to remember what got you noticed and use it to your teams advantage. Just a thought.

Forbes: he is just proving that his career will be the equivalent of a Samuel Dalembert line of basketball shoes: inconsequential.

A. Johnson: he gave us 10 rebounds and one of the most blatant elbows to an opponent that went uncalled this season. If you get murdered under the hoop and get no call, you might as well elbow someone and make it look natural. Great stuff.

J.Johnson: so, you have spent hours, maybe days, working on a document for school. Proud of it, you decide it’s good to go, so you print it off. You get halfway through and you notice the ink is running out and you can barely make out what it says on your $0.50/sheet paper. You’ve been there, right? Your head falls back, you let out an expletive and you feel your fist clench. You’ve been JJ’d.

Driving the bus: Andrea Bargnani

Under the bus: Rasual Butler

Theme of the Game:

  • Colonel_Hapablapp

    You know, I’m getting the feeling that most of our wins this season (and losses) are gonna be streak breakers.  One way or another. For example:
     
    Winless Teams That Get Their First Win: Dallas, Washington
    Winning Streaks Ended: New York, Minnesota, Cleveland (So what if the first 2 teams only won one?)
    Losing Streaks Ended: New Jersey
    Teams That Lose After Beating Us: Orlando, New Jersey
    Team Riding High From Offseason And Lose: Cleveland
    Exceptions to Rule: Philadelphia, Indiana
     
    If we lose to SAC (which the above data would indicate), can I get Hollinger’s job?? At least I’m not talking bull$#^% and (sorta) got numbers to back it up??

  • Craven_Moorhead

    can we get the police involved for a missing persons alert…send an a.p.b. out for demar derozan.

    • WHAT THE

      maybe we should bring Jay back to run the offence because this coach has no clue wtf he doing…maybe he is too busy trying to make Kidd and Dirk allstars so he can get a extension playoff basketball my ass also his time outs can he not draw up something that the boys can execute and AltRaps the thing that ED did with his hands our 7ft want to be allstar does that all the time in games

      • Craven_Moorhead

        you’re a retard. demars getting mad amounts of looks and just bricking and airballing and going up soft on jan vesely….open your eyes dummy.

        • WHAT THE

          fanboy where did you see me mension any thing about DD you sound the guy who picked up the two cases of primo was it you

          • cesco

            The coach , Dirk and Kidd the three Raps you mentioned are not responsible for JJ going 1-5 , Butler 1-6 and DD 4-16 . The wings are pieces of shit when it come to scoring , Casey or Jay cannot put the ball in the net for them ( and Dirk and Kidd would have a lot more assists if the wings were half decent scorers) .

        • voy

          correct.  and in the game before that he was guarded by barea for a good stretch and jj got the better of that matchup too.

          This being said, I think dd is better than what he is playing but I’m not sure his ceiling is as high as some here think.  Of course, I could be wrong but he’d certainly help his case if he tried to do other things to help the team other than score, until his finds his offence.

      • voy

        haha! “bring back jay”.  Good one.   

        oh, wait. you’re serious?!?!?!!?

        what play was it that jay ran that you miss seeing?  Was it the 25 ft jump shot coming out of the timeout?  “bring back jay”. holy frick.

        What play is it that casey can draw up that would increase the chances of Butler draining the already wide-open looks he’s getting?

        What play can casey dray up to get demar closer to the rim than the layups he’s already attempting that are getting blocked?

        • WHAT THE

          o yah his play book is one page all for PRIMO

        • WHAT THE

          then maybe we need to get rid of the coach or get him a coach with some offensive know how seeing that he wasnt a head coach in Dallas,and because a guy might be a so called defensive coach does not mean he will be a good head coach  

          • Realitycheck

            Maybe you need to wake up to the fact DD can dunk but he can’t play at an elite NBA level.

    • WHAT THE

      and while they are at it find out who is stealing LL Primo Pasta rebounds he needs them if he’s going to be a allstar coming off the bench

      • cesco

        Fan boy , Craven criticism was on DD . Funny that you are free to criticize the only player which prevent this team from being 0-10 but other fans cannot criticize the player which prevent the team from being , let us say 6-4 .

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MKD7XEPQZYPPVVSGZ2TPM6RNQI Killingjoke

    Washington was bound to win  might as well of been against a  thin talented roster like Toronto

    • Jeffrey Thompson

      That and it’s always Toronto’s shitty luck that had them lose to an even bigger loser. Look what happened with the Nets.  

  • Brian B

    Amir did great with what he had left in the tank. AB was awesome, though he took too many outside shots. I thought DD did better than last night.

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      2 rebounds equals awesome?????

      Amir was awesome if anyone was……on the Raptors tonite.

      • Craven_Moorhead

        yup…4 more for his season average would have won us the game.

        • WHAT THE

          aleast he would be showing the coach and the world strike that Primo was tired and was busy doing the complicated stuff

        • WHAT THE

          he only gets them when we win the game now i see

          • cesco

            All Andrea stats have gone up , including rebounding . DD stats have gone down ( from last year ) except for turnovers and steals which are gone up . Turnovers are a big killer of the offense , you know .

      • Brian B

        AB’s rebounding had nothing to do with why we lost – it was turnovers, poor shooting and haphazard defence (plus lousy reffing). We out rebounded them. I labelled AB awesome because he brought life at the offensive end after playing insane minutes, and he was the only one. I’m reconciled to accept that AB will never be a reliable rebounder. This team needs offence. AB is bringing it.

        • WHAT THE

          i thought i heard PRIMO said that offence is not a problem they can score so was he lying? i demand to see this coach playbook. i know the coach is on the clock he has to get PRIMO to the allstar game as it will extend his coaching job in T.O (two other coach were let go because they weren’t spendind enough time on PRIMO) i wonder if scoring alone wil get ll PRIMO PASTA to the allstar game

          • cesco

            The other two coaches were fired because they were not good enough for the NBA. I am not sure if they would be good coaches for their kids league .

            • WHAT THE

              YOU DO MEAN NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR PRIMO

            • WHAT THE

              yet the lying commissioner gave one of them COY  

              • Reality Check

                Again, are you a crack head? You are rediculous at best. This is why RR sucks, no one moderates the morons and just let’s people who can’t ball but like people can dunk a lot cause it looks cool comment all day. Piss off you wanna be.

  • Aaron8007

    Again 2-3 position let the raps down.  No production from those two spots leads to defeat.  1,4,5 position holding there own and usually winning the battle.  Jose a few to many turnovers but it was all the 19 tunrover for  easy buckets that made the differense. 

  • Daniel

    It’s a miracle we have 4 wins with only 3 active players above 15 in PER. Our management should be sacked for cheating into people into thinking youth movement is our hope for the future. Our youth is tragically talentless: DD has no skills, Davis has no motor, JJ has been traded by the Bulls after 2 years of evaluation, Bayless the same as JJ but being traded by 2 teams instead of 1. Val does offer real promise however one never knows.
    I give BC props for sticking with Andrea. I hated his attempt to trade Jose and leaving no playmakers in the team. I applaud him for signing Amir to a long contract. Most of all, signing Casey has really been a smart move. People are voting though with their money: ACC is unusually empty. They don’t seem to buy what the management is selling.

    • Valit

      wow..somebody I totally agree with…thank you Daniel

      • draftedraptor

        You applaud the same BC who drafted DD and ED? Who bought JJ and Bayless? Who let go of Bosh for free? GMs get it right sometimes but they are mostly wrong.This is why you need good backroom staff.Staff in toronto are utterly incompetent and should be sacked. One has to just look at how bad our scouting has been the last few years to know these people have been taking paid vacations and are just not good enough. Andrea and Calderon are easily our best players but if you are a rebuilding team you get rid of your best players and get pieces+ draftpicks instead. I don’t see him doing that.     

        • Valit

          i’m sorry ..I totally disagree with you regarding AB and Jose. I rather keep them and surround them with better 3’s and and 2’s. If you keep selling your best players who guarantees you that the next pieces will be what you want or would fit here  with Casey system? Then you restart the process over and over again. Continous rebuilding will empty ACC in 2 years max.

          • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

            The ACC  is empty now….

            The Raptors are going nowhere fast with the 2 longest tenured players under BC- Jose & AB, as their best players might as well trade high and reap the rewards before their stock falls- history is the best indicator of what is yet to come with AB & Jose.

            Both players have worn out their welcome in the TDot with me and so has BC International basketball vision of Raptors basketball sponsored by Stern starting in 2006 (AB #1 Pick gifted to BC).

            • cesco

              The king of trolls has spoken .

            • leafsfan

              They should fire BC for causing this chaos in raptors team. They are not exciting to watch. Why I will buy a ticket in ACC.

              • Bendit

                Maybe for the same reason u bought Leafs tickets the last 10 years….at least

                • leafsfan

                  hahaha. At least now, I am seeing progress. Go Leafs go.

    • Pizzaman

      totally correct. A broken record but we really are trying to play whole games and win some with three players who don’t make you cringe when they touch the ball.

      • matt

        Who’s that third player again?

        • Pizzaman

          Bargs, Jose and Amir…after that everyone else makes me cringe when they get the ball on offence

    • WHAT THE

      what? are you saying BCGOTS2GO

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SJT6LQ6HZQWMPJMT22LTN24UUY Antonino Ferraro

      Perfect analysis

    • WHAT THE

      when it’s all said and done know this DeMar wil never be traded,never come off the bench while playing for the raptors like JAY T said he wasn’t drafted to come off the bench they knew he was raw he was drafted to be raptors sg we all saw the limited skills that he had and now he has added the 3 pointer and if it takes 50 years like you know who so be it (Master P)

  • RapsM

    If we continue to play like this against the few teams we should beat, I don’t know how much better a high draft pick could make this team.

    • Ihatehaters

      Alot better.

      • Nilanka15

        Agreed.

      • RapsM

        It would likely still take some time. E.g. Irving in CLE, Wall in Washington.

  • Truthkiller

    How could we lose to Washington, this is absolutely criminal.

    • cesco

      I would say that losing to the worst team in the league , on their own turf , a day after you won a hard fought battle on your own turf , happens in every sport if you are a bottom team also .

      • Truthkiller

        I say that b/c Washington up until last night we’re playing D-league caliber basketball, they were losing by an average of 18pts and were 0-8. Effing Craptors.

  • Bendit

    DD & AD have been disappointments so far. Hope they can get back on track. DD reminds me of Weems after he had a promising end to a season and then tried to impress everyone with what he wasnt the following year. Isnt it DD’s contract year as well? 

    • Pizzaman

      who’s AD?
      Did you mean Ed Davis?
      DD now fancies himself a shooter.

      • Bendit

        Sorry. yes ED

    • Nilanka15

      DeMar’s signed until next season.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    I see another very ugly game tomorrow vs Sacramento (who got blown out by Philly tonite) that either team could win but I think Sac will pull out the W in the Rap’s 3rd game of a b2b2b set.

    This season is going to provide alot of WTF games when people check the morning box scores- especially during the 1st month of the season, get used to it.

    Some bad teams may overachieve while some good teams may under achieve during this condensed 66 game season while dealing with injuries and the like.

    Btw- DD attacked the rim tonite he didn’t always get the desired results but he didn’t shy away from contact even if his shot wasn’t falling.

    • voy

      DD didn’t shy away from contact?!?! I saw him drive it, when the red carpet was laid out for him, and then I saw him totally pussy out at the rim and rather than try and dunk on somebody, and lean into them, I saw him try and lay it up and either miss or get blocked. 

      I missed most of the 2nd half though so unless he grew some balls in the 3rd and 4rth I gotta disagree.

      • Pizzaman

        That’s what I saw of DD when he went to the rim. As soon as he gets a defender he pulls the ball back and throws his body forward hoping for a call…that’s his move.
        Bargnani driving from the wing and going to the hoop finishing with a reverse layup on two guys is a finish at the rim.

        • voy

          I woundn’t even mind if made the motion of a slam knowing he’s too…I dont know… weak, timid (?) to finish a dunk in traffic.  Rather he “attacks” the rim and then, if anyone is under the basket, he’ll turn his hand over and serve up the ball on a silver platter for the other team to try and block.  He had 3 or 4 of those in the first half alone. 

          I dont mind the kid, but this is becoming a trend I’d rather not see this year, especially with the rest of his game suffering.  Even previous years, DD gets a lot of hype as a wicked dunker, but really, how many guys has DD legitimately put on a poster?

          I still wish the kid well but he’s gotta start playing better. 4, 3, 0, 2, 2, freethrows the last 5 games is not enough when your jumper is not falling.

          • WHAT THE

            Sure you do

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        I missed most of the second half…….I gotta disagree……..lmfao

      • AB7.38pt.on.CB4

        Unfortunately DD tonight was terrible. He went 0-10. He could not make one good.

        • Craven_Moorhead

          yeah…and the moron troll says trade bargs and jose….what a fucking idiot.

        • cesco

          He ended up 4-16 , this means he start the games to slow . I believe he made the comment that he has to figure out (as the game progress) where he should be on the floor . Does this mean he has a low IQ ? .

    • Craven_Moorhead

      attacked the rim?…hahahahahahah.you mean shying away from contact with jan vesely instead of crowing his ass…..lol…sure pal.self sonned.

  • Primary

    What is Gary Forbes good for? When he was signed everyone lauded it as a great signing and labelled him a solid player. Anyone else still surprised that Denver didn’t match the offer sheet? I’m sure as hell not.

    • matt

      Its tradition here in Raptorsrepublic to praise unknown players.

    • Nilanka15

      Lol, I don’t remember anyone lauding over Forbes.

      • Primary

        Lol, then you don’t read articles.

        • Nilanka15

          Just to be clear, there’s a difference between praising a 39 point performance vs. a Leo Rautins coached team, and NBA skills.

  • Adriiian

    Wow, that was terrible, Butler, absolutely terrible, DeMar, terrible, this guy cannot be our SG of the future, he actually sucks balls, we got a coach, now we need players. I can’t believe Colangelo drafted this kid, what an idiot.

    • WHAT THE

      a coach whose main focus is Pasta boy and a point guard that Marion is just dying to play with

    • http://twitter.com/japetas13 Ramūnas Padriezas

      Last year DD looked very promising player, but no one knows what happened to him this summer…

  • Pizzaman

    I’ve said this some but did anyone watch Derozan when he shoots the ball? How he kicks his legs back, how he literally throws the ball which is why he clangs so many, how he’s not square when he shoots? Talk about bad mechanics. That’s why I knew his 25 point night with 5 of 8 threes was a fluke because he’s not a shooter.
    Again please give him a basketball and make him dribble it everywhere and all the time other than when he sleeps. This guy needs to learn how to dribble the ball, and especially without looking at it.
    I think the jury is in and Butler is indeed a bum and worthy of getting his ass glued to the bench in favor of someone like Forbes or JJ who might at least go 2 of 6 which is still way better than Butler.

    • Primary

      I really don’t know what happened to DeRozan’s jumper. Last season after practicing with Eric Hughes, we was actually knocking down the mid-range jumpers with regularity, he was confident and when he took the shot there’d always be a pretty good chance it’d go in, and he had a nice shooting motion to go with it. Now? Seemingly every shot he takes is off the mark, like way off, a plethora of clangers. I hope the kid gets it together because I always thought he could be a pretty decent SG on this team. Maybe he’s just a slow starter? Maybe his approach on 3 pointers has made him change his approach on mid range jumpers?  Regardless, I hope he picks it up because he’s playing for a contract if I’m not mistaken.

      As for Butler, he is a bum, but he was signed as a bum, all of the free agent signings by BC in the offseason were essentially scrub signings so we cannot expect much of them.

      Not sure what’s up with Barbosa, maybe he anticipated the season being cancelled due to a lockout and instead of practicing/training he was relaxing and preparing for the Christmas party he was planning with friends and family in Brazil. 

      • WHAT THE

        well if you want pasta boy to be your best player then you sign bums and he will shine

        • Craven_Moorhead

          pasta boy eh?…ok dumb nigger.

          • sleepz

            I don’t agree with any derrogatory or bigoted comments on this board towards anyone.

            Why is this ignorance not removed immediately?

            • Nilanka15

              It’s good ol’ Joshua Reynolds, with yet another screen name.  The world’s greatest schizo is back.

              • Bendit

                The moderation if any is really bad here…unlike the Forums area.

                • Truthkiller

                  It’s effing hilarious here man.

          • Pizzaman

            The moderation here is really bad which is why people disappear sometimes. I cannot believe idiots like you actually still exist in Canada. Amazing what idiots can do and say when hiding behind a keyboard and anonymity. Were your folks from Mississippi?This is no place for racist, intolerant bigoted bullshit. Maybe Craven you should go play with your redneck buddies instead of being on a basketball fan site.
            The constant pasta boy, and Primo pasta boy references by what the and other idiots are insulting and immature because you can dislike Andrea and still refer to him by name or initials, but to respond with what you do is completely unacceptable anywhere including this site. 
            Someday you might grow up and raise nice little racists if you keep this shit up.

            • Nilanka15

              I can’t read people’s minds, but the “pasta boy” references may not have any racists undertones to them.  It could simply be a result of the commercials in the same way Turkoglu was made fun of for his Pizza Pizza commercials.

              • Pizzaman

                I understand and I was not thinking their racist, but rather suggesting its ok if he does not like Bargnani but Andrea did nothing to be referred to as pasta boy or other immature bs. It’s just childish the way these guys post, calling people derogatory names, others racist, others just plain old immature and stupid. They need a life.
                Meantime that does not excuse the other idiot who is actually using foul racist language over and over and should be banned from this site.

                • tiddles

                  fool

            • tiddles

              pizza guy relax primo patsa is a basketball player on tv and i’ll call him PRIMO PASTA if i want you have powers in your fingers to press arrow down like i do to your post every time and thanks NILANKA it is like you said this pizzadelivery guy must be Premos’ lover 

              • Pizzaman

                You’re not worth the words!!

      • leafsfan

        I can shoot better than Butler. BC should hire me instead of him. :-) What a bust or stupidity?

  • Aaron8007

    Great article on Andrea at draft express. Read the “it factor” .  Almost predicts where Andrea is at this point.  This one goes out to all the Andrea haters tim, bcstefanski etc  http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Andrea-Bargnani-154/

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      I don’t hate anybody over the game of basketball.lmfao

    • cesco

      Thanks , I read part of it and will read it fully later , The ‘zone’ is a concept that I understand , I have known it in playing golf . Although I am a lousy golfer , when you are in the ‘zone’ that is when you play the best game of the year .

      • cesco

        You don’t ‘think’ before you hit the ball when you are in the ‘zone’ . But you can only do it , at least in my case ,  only rarely (not even once a year) .

        • Pizzaman

          so everyone of our wings, DD, Butler, Barbosa, Forbes and JJ must be in the zone because they ” don’t think when they get the ball either”. lol

          • cesco

            Being in the zone may be different in basketball . In golf , you have a lot more time to ‘think’ that is when you start losing the quality of your swing . I think the nervous system overrides the muscular system and the swing becomes less natural . Do you see how calm Andrea is when he shoot . He is thinking less and let his muscles do the work by themselves .

            • Pizzaman

              Agreed….also because Andrea is a shooter with talent which the guys I mentioned above are poor at and have poor mechanics.

  • db28

    I know that Casey is being lauded for the great defense but I am really disturbed at the lack of a system offensively. The team plays around at the top of the three point line and many times are forced to take bad shots late in the shot clock. The only guys that seem to be open for shots are Butler and Derozen and they are just brutal. Casey has to take Butler out of the starting lineup. Not only can he not hit shots but he has to be the worst inbounder in the league. Watch him on plays under the opponents basket. Brutal.
       I’m gonna be positive in feeling that Kleiza and Bayless will help the offense as we are in sore need of some help. I am also hoping that this will glue Butler to the bench. Also every time Barbosa has the ball, I wince as he is wayyy out of control and a complete ball hog. He is no longer the “Brazilian Blur” to me, his new nickname is the “Toronto Turnover”.
       DD looks awful. He has absolutely no go to move and he is tossing up more airballs than field goals. AB is playing great and he took the same amount of shots tonight as DD. AB finished 9/16 and DD 4/16. We have to win tomorrow as we have 7 tough tough games after that.
      Is Magloire injured? I have noticed that Casey has him glued to the bench the last two games.

    • Pizzaman

      the reason Derozan and Butler are open is because they cannot shoot so the defense collapses on Bargnani and Jose.
      Even though Bargnani is the primary weapon it’s actually harder for him to score on this team than it would be if there were decent 2’s and 3’s as he would find more open looks.

    • WHAT THE

      +1000

    • tiddles

       don’t call him that the pizzapizza guy might get upset

  • rc

    butler sucks.  the only one he got in today was a goaltend.  and he missed the and-1 too.  he’s 13-60 as a raptor.  is james johnson really that much worse offensively?  13-60.

    • Pizzaman

      I agree. even Forbes has to be better than the bricks this guy throws. I guess Kleiza feels ok that he does not have to come in and try to earn his old position back from another player since all our wing players have pretty much stunk the joint out.
      Kleiza will be better than all the wing players we have and take some pressure off Bargnani and Jose

  • Ion66

    I have to look in the Pilsbury display at the grocery store if I want to see more turnovers than tonight!! I got whiplash from the ball changing direction.

  • ad

    I wish this clusterfuck of a season would just end already with the raps having a top 5 pick at worst. Also, I’ve found the officiating to be utterly abysmal this season. Just brutal calls/non calls to all teams. It really makes you wonder how many donaghys are left

    • JYFelony

      Couldn’t agree more with this statement.  I’m pretty sure there are more than a few of em that check the line before the game.

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      NBA Refereeing is like WWF Refs as they call what they want to call as they see fit (or are instructed to do) manipulating games right in front of our collective lying eyes- reality tv pro basketball style.

      The NBA is a business overseen by Stern……..

      • ad

        Theres some truth in that. Too many times, the refs seem to be in control of the show. I understand its a hard sport to officiate but fuck it does look really suspicious when they miss blatant fouls and call made up ones for “star” players

      • Gman

        Had to comment here because this is the one (and perhaps only time) I will agree with Mr Crazy handle here…

        The perfect example of that was when Amir went up in to traffic and was banged around like he was in the middle of a UFC ring.  The ref didn’t give him the call and Amir called him out.  Next time down the floor Amir got called for a total ticky tack foul…even Jack called the ref out and said, “I guess the Ref didn’t like being shown up.”  That was just two calls.  They were both at a time we were making a run, and contributed to killing our momentum.  

        I hope to God that stuff is being sent down to be reviewed by somebody…

        There’s really no point any of us watching this team or supporting this game if prejudice and control is that lackadaisically and obviously used.

        • foo

          what about those non-calls
          that get called the other way? 
          will fairness and integrity 
          be factored in one day? 

          I asked a local bookie 
          and he looked at me and laughed and said
          “naivete is ok 
          but I didn’t think you daft”

          “bad guys play their own game 
          on the floor they have their chefs 
          but no players in those pockets 
          they don’t need ‘em – they have refs”

          • Gman

            And though I appreciate the poetry regardless of it’s merit…
            I think it’s pretty obvious that there is a bias that runs deep.  Whether it’s an anti Raptors bias because they’re supposed to be a bad team, an anti-Canadian bias because of the invasive American ego, who knows…

            And foo, if you’re going to comment on something I say, can you try to make it relevant and less obtuse.  We’re here to talk basketball not compare dicks.

            • foo

              No dicks. The topic tweaked a memory of something written a while back, a piece of it I simply attached to the thread, not thinking too much of it or about it. And I agree, the bias, whether anti-Raps or anti-anything-not-American, exists, no question in my mind. 

  • Lorenzo

    I am so thankful for the lockout.. I don’t know how much longer i can watch my hometown team suck so bad

  • andrea20

    Rasual Butler’s FG% is now .240. How low can it go?!

  • Mikey_charles

    sometimes these roll calls are so full of stupid analogies that they’re unreadable…I get that this site tries to mix bball analysis with an edgy vibe, but seriously, some of this stuff is total shit. That herpes clinic joke is just plain stupid, and kind of makes no sense. On the otherhand, the comment about Davis making a half-assed attempt at a steal, that’s interesting and kind of funny; it adds to the understanding of the game and the player. Maybe aim for more bball related analogies (i.e. “Barbosa’s game had a face not even Sam Cassel’s mother could love.”) rather than straight up gross shit.

  • Craven_Moorhead

    this is fucking hilarious….dumb niggers are blaming demars play on bargs,jose and casey.lmao.

    • Pizzaman

      Hey Craven,
      Anyone who blames Derozan’s poor play on Bargs, Jose and Casey is either blind or dumb in my books but that still does not give you the right to say racist bullshit offensive words like you do. 
      You give supporters of those three a bad image by association and I believe that not only is it no ones fault but his own that Derozan has sucked, but that Bargnani, Jose, and Amir would actually be way better than they’ve already been with 2’s and 3’s that could actually play basketball since the opposing teams would have to play everyone rather than leaving DD and Butler wide open and collapsing on the three real players this team has.
      Stop with the racist shit if you actually want anyone to read your post otherwise go play with yourself somewhere else, or maybe try going out into the streets and trying your language on a few of your targets to see what reaction you get. I’ll bet it would stop real soon. Grow up.

  • XanderZ

    am I the only one who thought.. “Yesssss we losee and washington finally get their 1st win” (for the draft pick nxt year obviously) after the game over ???

    • http://twitter.com/japetas13 Ramūnas Padriezas

      If we lose tonight against Sacramento, I’ll join Raptors draft club too…

    • Nilanka15

      Casey’s finally tanking!  Love it! 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SJT6LQ6HZQWMPJMT22LTN24UUY Antonino Ferraro

    Terrible game. I saw many player to show how poor talent they have. Barbosa is a joke nowadays, Butler is shit in all sense, incapable even to delivery the ball properly to a teammate after a def. rebound, Ed Davis omgood…, DD continues to struggle and the duo JC-AB under the par. But what I don’t understand is the fact the some users continue to discuss about a AB’s rebounds issue. Is ridicolous! (i.e. yesterday Bosh grabbed 4 reb!!!)
    We continue to argue about a numbers when the teammate had shown an horrible basket. Instead to argue about the defence plays and the lack of effort from the second unit, and the poor talent, the main argument is: when we’ll trade AB and JC?

    I am not more competent then others but when we talk about a rebuilding I think is necessary understand WTF this word mean. Because if we want to see a team filled the young player from the draft do it, but we have to accept the fact that we don’t know the player we’ll pick, and what kind of people they are.

    The Kings have DMC but the guy, full of talent, is crazy, Beasley is crazy too….. the Wizard are full of stupid talented guys and the situation is a team without clue. So get rid of AB and JC is not a solution if you don’t pick people like Duncan, wise guy since he was a teen.

    For me the solution is to think about Bayless and evaluate him carefully (this year), second try to pick a good guy and add talent (SG and SF) around AB and JC. The next year put under the lens ED and JJ and DD to decide if they deserve or not a new contract.

    Returning to the game, yesterday was a classical example how the talent is necessary. When the big guys playing under the bar (AB and JC) you have to receive the support from the others and instead we saw 5 players incapable of playing at all when the duo was on the bench!!

  • sangaman

    Derozan is not playing NBA calibre basketball, never mind all star status.  Missing wide open 12 footers suggests to me that training in the off season wasnt on his agenda. Time to stop drafting young americans who dont take Canada and the raps seriously.  I suggested Rubio for DD yesterday and watching Rubio play against Chicago fat chance for a trade. Torontos only chance to assemble a winning team is young Euro talent and veteran Americans. Valenciunas is a start on this process.

    • WHAT THE

      don’t worry you shall have your euro team soon we already have 5 players so we are getting there pretty soon there will be only standing room only. GO PRIMO!

      • sangaman

        There are exceptions of course-AMIR..but these guys are arent high draft picks.,,

  • WHAT THE

    the raps=MINN with KG and D Casey (free flowing offence my ass KIDD 2.0 always pounding the ball all the way up the court doing the Jerret Jack tying his shoelase while the defence setup nothing easy for the team does this team ever get any fast break

  • minks77

    wow, that was fugly. 

    Saw it coming but still. If I was at all emotionally invested in this squad I’d be pretty bummed but all I can see is JV and the draft pick at media day next year… puts a smile on my face.

  • Nilanka15

    I think we’re overreacting a bit.  Going into this season, we knew we’d be an utterly shit team.  3 weeks into the season, nothing has changed, so why so much angst?

    the remaining 55 games are for development of players, while piling on the losses.  “Playoffs” should be completely eliminated for our collective vocabularies.

    Next year is when we begin our upward trend.  Until then, the story will play out exactly like we said it would.

  • minks77

    Wonder what we could do to ensure a “frozen envelope” type situation this spring? I guess now it’s weighted ping pong balls but you get the drift.