Game two of hell-weak continues, with the rejuvenated Nuggets rolling into town, holding a slim half-game lead for 8th in the West. This game couldn’t showcase two more fundamentally different teams: the up-tempo Nuggets, and the half-court Raptors.

It occurred to me that the Nuggets are one of those teams that have thoroughly dominated the Raptors over the years; you have to go back to March 23, 2007 for the last time the Raptors won a game against them. For those who are counting, that’s a 1-10 record over the last five years against this team.

After speaking with the guys from Roundball Mining Company, the loss of Masai Ujiri from the Raptors front-office is really weighing on me. I’m sure he provided value during his tenure here, but the only contribution he made, that I can recall, was drafting Solo in the 2nd round. People spoke highly of him, but I could never figure out why:

The Nuggets made quite the surprising splash at the deadline shipping newly signed Nene to the Wizards for McGee. While I thought Nene got overpaid for his production, I was stunned they made that move. What was the reasoning behind the trade; had to have been the money, right?
Kalen Deremo: Strictly money. You can’t tell me a guy who’s been with the organization his entire career and was heavily cajoled to return this offseason was dumped solely because of his production, which wasn’t even bad. The Nuggets overpaid Nene and clearly weren’t comfortable with it. Also, Kenneth Faried probably had a little something to do with it.
Charlie Yao: The trade was definitely financially motivated, as the Nuggets exchanged almost $60 million in future salary commitments for just under $7 million (I loved how Hollinger described it as basically amnestying Nene while grabbing McGee’s rights). Beyond all of the future flexibility it opens up, which made it easier to sign Wilson Chandler long term, I believe there were a number of other reasons that caused the Nuggets to ask for a refund on their highest paid player. Ever since the franchise stepped out of Carmelo Anthony’s shadow, I think they had high hopes for Nene as a guy who would step up and become even more valuable as a focal point of the Nuggets’ new identity. They may have been a little hurt after seeing Nene turn down an extension, opt out and sign such a huge deal only to coast through the start of the season and look like a fragile player on the decline more than a rising star.

As you know, Masai Ujiri was part of the Raptors front office before taking the reigns of the Nuggets; how do you rate him as an NBA executive?
Kalen: The Nene trade was the only thing that hasn’t sat well with me, otherwise Ujiri has exceeded most fans’ expectations and then some. I’d say he’s a top five general manager already, maybe even top three. It’s really too bad the Raptors couldn’t see what was right beneath their nose because they truly had something special.
Charlie: Masai has been fantastic as part of the youngest executive team in the league alongside 31 year-old President and Owner Josh Kroenke. At times, I think they’re inexperience and eagerness has hurt them in terms of negotiating finances with the young players they badly want on the team. However, Masai has definitely proven to be a shrewd, calculating manager who isn’t afraid to hurt feelings and hold people accountable. I think he’s exactly the guy this franchise needed to guide them into the next era of Nuggets basketball.

Looks like you got a keeper in Kenneth Faried; how polished is the rookie, and how big a beneficiary will he be in the low post with Nene gone and McGee apt to run amok at any given moment?
Kalen: Faried has a long way to go. He’s better offensively than people give him credit for but he still doesn’t understand many aspects of the NBA game. He will improve in time and once he does the rest of the league will be in trouble. His motor is unreal. He has the ability to be Rodmanesque one day.
Charlie: Faried is far from a finished product, but he’s clearly Denver’s best draft pick since Melo and a guy they can feel comfortable building around as pillar for future success. His biggest problem right now is guarding the perimeter and learning how to make himself a legitimate option in the half court offense. Kenneth Faried just finds his way into so many hustle plays I think he’s one of the funnest guys to watch in the NBA and one of the more slept-on rookies thanks to the fact it took George Karl twenty-some games to start playing him.

How good is this Nuggets team? Can they make a deep playoff, if in fact they do make the playoffs (currently 9th) run given the strength of the West?
Kalen:  That’s the million-dollar question right there. If you ask me, this Nuggets team has the talent to be Top 4 in the West; too bad it doesn’t have the drive. George Karl hasn’t had his best year of coaching and it’s really too bad, because if this team gets healthy and has home-court advantage come May, it could do some damage in the Playoffs. I truly believe that when healthy and when Karl is actually motivated, this is the third best team in the West behind the Thunder and Spurs.
Charlie:  I keep having to remind myself this team has been re-invented several times since the Melo trade and is still in the early stages of developing a winner’s mentality. I would say this is a good team, albeit way too inconsistent to be considered close to a serious contender. The strange thing about this lockout-shortened year is that outside of the Thunder, the West is the most wide-open it’s been in about a decade. They are definitely on the same level as the six or seven other teams fighting for playoff spots and I could see them winning a first round series with a favorable matchup.

The Nuggets have won 10 of the last 11 against the Raptors dating back to March 23, 2007 (seriously); that’s six years of sheer dominance over Toronto. What will the Raptors have to do to win this game, and if you were a betting man, call it.
Kalen: If I was a betting man I wouldn’t get near this one. Who knows which Nuggets team is going to show up any given night. It could be the one who trounced the Heat or the one who got blown out by Timberwolves. Truth is the Nuggets are three-quarters through the season and still searching for an identity. That said, if I had to bet I’d take the Nuggets, just because they are coming off an impressive win against Chicago and are an overall better team than Toronto.
Charlie:  Toronto has always been a team more than happy to oblige the Nuggets free and easy, up and down style of play. I think they’ll need to force a half court game and beat the Nuggets inside in order to win, as Denver’s just too good in the open court. If I were a betting man, I’d go with the Nuggets to win a close one, but nothing would surprise me as Denver has had a Jekyll-and-Hyde thing going on since the All-Star break and remains a a vulnerable team.

I went back at Kalen about being stunned by his assessment of Ujiri; I always considered the Melo trade more of James Dolan acting a fool and getting in over his head than a masterful coup d’état, but it seemed to be the tip of the iceberg:

Kalen: Yeah, top three. This team has talent. It’s so deep too. When Gallinari is healthy, the Nuggets really are a threat. He’s a game-changer for sure. That’s why this season has been so frustrating. Gallo has been injured most of it, and outside of Oklahoma City the West is as mediocre as we’ve seen in quite some time. Most fans either want the team to start going young to get a higher draft pick in what looks like a great draft, or get it together and make a strong push toward the playoffs. Right now, the Nuggets are doing neither and it’s difficult to swallow.

As for Ujiri, dude, the guy knows what he’s doing. The Solomon Alabi thing… I’ll tell you what, I think he’s got too much of a soft spot for African prospects. He traded for Chukwudiebere Maduabum (who!?!?) in this last year’s draft despite guys like Julyan Stone (who the Nuggets later signed) and Isaiah Thomas still on the board. Outside of that idiosyncrasy, Ujiri is a iron-balled assassin when it comes to running a basketball team. What he did in the Melo trade was mind-boggling. He killed it in last year’s draft, somehow managed to convince Nene — who was dead set on leaving — to return and re-signed Afflalo, Gallinari and Chandler, all of whom could easily have gone to a different destination. To be real candid, I didn’t like the way he disposed of Chauncey or Nene — two franchise pillars and important parts of the Denver community — but I can’t sit here and tell you they were bad basketball moves because they weren’t.

The reason I said it was unfortunate Toronto couldn’t retain him is because he would be the perfect guy for the Raptors right now. You give him high lottery picks and he’ll give you as a title-contender. I firmly believe that.

I highly recommend you check their blog out, these guys are on the ball, and have a lot of interesting things to say; also, sorry for the 1500 words of conversation before any real pre-game action.

The loss of Bayless for the rest of the season is a big blow to this team; Calderon can’t play 35+ minutes, night-after-night, and be expected to perform optimally. The Raptors have gone out and signed D-Leaguer in Alan Anderson (2nd 10-day contract), and Ben Uzoh. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter since these are deep bench guys, at best, unless we have a Lin on our hands. DeRozan is day-to-day, but expected to play, which helps the backcourt, shifting Forbes back to the bench; he can provide relief running the 2nd unit. Either way, if DeRozan plays, both he and Calderon will log heavy minutes.

Keys to the Game

  • The Nuggets are rebounding beasts; putting in a full team effort crashing the boards. They are 3rd in the league in rebounding rate, pulling down 51.8% of available missed shots. This is key as they are 2nd in the league in pace, and 1st in assist. These guys get out on the break, share the ball, and score at will. The Raptors can’t play that game, and need big showings from Amir, Davis and Bargnani on the glass, especially on the offensive boards.
  • This goes to the last point, but the Raptors can’t into an an up-and-down game with the Nuggets; this is plays right in to their strengths of ball movement between athletic guys. Ty Lawson especially; the kid is lightning fast an can abuse the Raptors transition defense if given the space to operate.
  • Also going back to the 1st point, the Raptors need to move the ball around, and take smart shots. The last thing they need is to take a contested shot, not get the rebound and be on their heals in transition; bad things will happen.
  • Bargnani needs to find his groove, again. There is nobody on this Nuggets team that can hang with him if he regains his early season form. Fortunately, he’ll be afforded the opportunity to get into an offensive groove with the weak Nuggets defense in the front-court.
  • Forbes is playing for next season, and the third game in a row where he’ll get big minutes will go a long way in adding zero’s onto his next contract. This whole game will be a sort of heat-check for the guard, after posting two straight impressive games in DeRozan’s absence.

The Line

The Nuggets are 5.5 point favourites; couple that with a loss to Minnesota and a win against the Bulls…I have no idea what to expect. The Raptors play of late (forget the Orlando game, the Nuggets don’t have a dominant player like Dwight to run a train on the Raptors) has me hopeful that this will be a tight game. Ultimately, it comes down to the whole sum-of-the-parts thing with them. At some point, Bargnani needs to step-up and produce; there’s only so much hustle and determination can do for you when your franchise player isn’t carrying his load.

For those of you who care.

Photo Credit: Garrett W. Ellwood/NBAE via Getty Images

  • Theswirsky

    Raps take this on the back of a Bargnani 20 – 10

    book it

    • Sam Holako

      LOL! You’re going to keep saying that until it happens, huh?

      • Theswirsky

        fate will most definetely meet me eventually

    • cesco

       If Bosh was here , they would lose it on the back of a 30-12 , book it .

      • Nilanka15

        Ah, the classic Bargnani defence tagline.  “Well, well, well, Bosh stinks too…”

        • cesco

          To be fair to both of them , the next 2-3 years will determine whether Andrea can carry the team better than Bosh did , assuming that a franchise player is not found in the draft .

          • Nilanka15

            If Bargnani continues to play the way he has lately, his next 2-3 years in Toronto are anything but guaranteed.

            Regardless, most of us aren’t concerned about settling a debate over which player was/is better (it means nothing). 

            We just want to see the team win, regardless of who “leads” them.

          • AB7.8pt.on3/11

            that would be like 8,9 years total

          • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

            Kool Aid alert………

          • Raps4Ever

            Dude, you should have known by now to avoid wading into this joyous gathering with anything less than two loaded guns, and AB isn’t providing any ammo right now. Patience, you’ll have your day again.

            • AB7.8pt.on3/11

              April 1st Was. he should have a lot of ammo,Andrea 20 and 12

          • sleepz

            He can’t. Different teams, different coaches, different landscape. Apples to oranges. The fact remains however that one is a consistent all-star who although not a franchise player took a team with marginal talent to the playoffs on a couple of occasions. The other while ona team with amrginal talent, is still trying to find a level of consistency in the league.

            Nothing wrong with your admiration for Andrea but you shouldn’t let it create delusions.

            • cesco

              There is no delusion . the team will probably be moving forward without a franchise player , a la Detroit of a few years ago . You are right , it is like comparing apples to oranges when comparing the team with Bosh and this team starting next year with the new additions .

              • sleepz

                That Detroit team had a colllection of all-stars and that formula has yet to be reproduced. Not saying ti can’t happen but the Raps don’t even have 1 all-star on their team.

                A franchise player to build around would make a world of difference.

                • Destro

                  They did get some all star recognition due to winning a title but they werent no all stars….THAT Pissed ons team was a true anamoly of ‘ship teams….Wont ever see that for a long time again….

                • sek99

                   Chauncy Billups, all-star. Both  Wallaces could have been all-star, and rip and prince were better than every player on the raptors squad today in their prime. We aren’t even close to coming to that.

          • Destro

            “To be fair”  You have no interest in that statement…
            and your argument is bullshit…So Andrea gets an extra 3 seasons to “see” if he pans out into a lead player ? smh
            So we disregard the first 6 and sweep them under BC’s rug and pretend they never existed huh ? He’s had 6 seasons to BE a franchise player while BOSH was HERE…Bosh wasnt impeding him from being THE man while he was here….

            IF Bargs had of shown any of that pedigree,he would have been at least a 1A/1B and this team could have been a 2 headed dynamo in the front court,unfortunately averaging 4 RPG prevents this argument from ever getting off the ground,friend… 

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        Bosh is in Miami buddy playing for Championships with Riley as he was smart enough to get away from BC’s BullChit after 3 years……

      • Destro

        -2 of his last 3 seasons they were in the playoffs…
        -Bosh was a 20/10 player not a 20/4 player
        -I was told Bosh was stealing Bargs rebounds,his floor space…YET his rebounds remained the same
        -Bosh has been an all star twice since leaving
        -Bargs has made zero all star appearances in those 2 seasons
        -His putrid dickridin fanbase continues to make delusional excuses and move the goal posts with such reasons as he’s a natural PF,he’s still developing,he needs better sauce on his pasta etc etc….

    • Destro

      20 pts, -10

      bill it

    • Theswirsky

      so close

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Good W for the Raptors!!

      A banged up Miami is up next.

  • Nilanka15

    They’ve definitely got more talent than our dancers 😐

    • Scottbbaird

      they’ve got man shoulders…

  • hotfuzz

    Raps take this on the back of a Bargnani 20-20.

    Book it!

    • 300milesaway

      if they had a betting line on that statline,you’d win a milli on a $1 wager….

    • Nilanka15

      Don’t you think you’re being a little unrealistic?  You forgot the 10 blocks…

      • Destro

        his 0.89 BPG is fine MEH
        but he could rebound 10 times a game if he wasnt so V

    • AB7.8pt.on3/11

      ? P

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Masai Ujiri >>>>> BC

    • Lorenzo

      Kevin Pritchard >

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    I hope that the Raptors come out with energy but our defense will be weak the rest of the season especially with Jose & Ben (he is a decent bench player but a lil slow of foot still quicker than Jose lol) defending opposing pgs.

    I think Ben MIGHT even out play Jose as well as the season winds down.

    Still need another roster pg (imo) what if Jose or Ben goes down?

    Just watched Casey on RaptorsToday and he said some more double talk bs-the reporters just sit there and act stupefied.smh

    • AB7.8pt.on3/11

      “what if Jose or Ben goes down?” no playoffs

    • Destro

      Dogg wouldnt that be hilario if this kid came in and took Jose’s job the final 15 games of the year…..and you know Calderon is thinking at halftime while he’s  handing out gatorade beverages “why they keep signing PG’s trying to take my job”

      TJ,Ukic,Dixon,Martin,Jack and now this guy !!!!

      • Nilanka15

        Actually, it was Calderon who took TJ’s job…

        • Destro

          Nah it was his job before they signed TJ who took it and then got hit by Al Horford…and Calderon been floundering in mediocrity ever since…

          • Nilanka15

            Calderon was a career backup before they signed TJ.

            We gave up a lottery pick in Villenueva because we didn’t have a PG.  Nobody knew what Calderon was capable of.

            • Destro

              he was here before TJ,the job was his if he had any acumen it would have been a comp for the job,but it never was TJ came dominated and took the job from the trash that was here (Jose) and only lost out after he got injured in the Hawks game Dec 07 and wasnt the same rest of that SECOND season..got dealt and reign was given to OLA and he has been the most overhyped,mediocre,slow footed,brasilian porn director looking PG ever since….

               

        • Destro

          im quick to point out TJ’s first year in TO was more productive than Jose’s entire NBA career….NOOOOOPE 14 and 8 >>>> cold ass paella

  • Bendit

    Keeping Ujiri here woulda meant BC giving up his gm duties. That wasnt about to happen. He just changed the name of Masai’s position and hired Stefanski.

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      BC’s best move would have been to name himself as the Raptors President and name Masai as the Raptors GM and give Masai full authority to make deals on his own accord while letting BC be the face of the front office.

  • Francis

    Good, just keep losing, we need to beat out the Nets for the 4th worst record, then close the gap between us and the Hornets for 3rd….the Wizards and Bobcats just seem too out of reach. #TankNation

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Then drop from 3rd to 5th in the Lottery draw- Tank Nation aka Stank Nation where losing becomes winning.smdh

      Losing is a culture- look around Raptors land….

      • Nilanka15

        That drop is potentially the difference between MKG and Barnes, which is HUGE!

        Reminder: Nobody is asking the players to stop competing.  This team will lose games regardless of what the players’ mindset is. 

        The idea of a “losing culture” is a myth (see the Clippers, 6ers, Pacers, TWolves, Thunder, etc.).  Bring in good players, and wins will result.  It’s really that simple.

        Do you think Chris Paul was affected by the Clippers’ losing culture?

        • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

          Do the Raptors have a CP3?

          Some myth- wake up to Raptors current reality buddy…

          Btw the TWolves are playing below .500

          • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

            Or even a Blake Griffin?

            • Nilanka15

              One of the most overrated players in the league.

              • Destro

                He needs a jumpshot but to say most overrated is lame…Hes a legit 20/10,wish we had a guy like that… 

                • Nilanka15

                  I didn’t say he sucks, I said he’s overrated. 

                  Give me Love or Bosh any day over Griffin.

                • Destro

                  Funny you use overrated to describe Blake and use Love as the player you’d rather have….

                • Nilanka15

                  The 2 players are not even comparable in terms of skillset.

                  If look past the dunks, Griffin isn’t even in Al Jefferson/David Lee territory.

                • Destro

                  You cant disregard his ability to get to the rim because few players have his athleticism and strength to do it…lol So if Shaq wasnt 7-1 300 lbs and couldnt bully guys under the basket he’d be what Eric Montross ? smh @ you

                • Nilanka15

                  lol, Shaq was overrated too.  I would’ve much rather had a centre with skill (Robinson, Olajuwan, Ewing).

                • Destro

                  Shaq was overrated ? *disregards all future posts*

                • Destro

                  Skills arent comparable,but there impact on the floor is and thats what matters…See im going to do your argument in reverse….If you look past Love’s 3 pt shooting he;s in David Lee,Bargs territory himself…

                  *sprinkles crack on reply* 

                • sleepz

                  Love is much more than a 3pt shooter. Heis a fantastic rebounder and gets to the line at an enormous rate and shoots a great %. Give the man his props! lol

                • Destro

                  What he does is understood,my point is its impact on the game to the team….

                • Nilanka15

                  C’mon dude, what impact did Griffin have before CP arrived?

                  You put CP on that Minnesota squad, and they’re instantly better than they are now.

                • Destro

                  So im clear what im saying is Love’s stats look amazing on paper,they dont translate to wins or making his team better…and for all the credit his offensive game gets,he’s a one dimensional player who plays no D and overrall his stats as big as they look dont really impact on the games that much…which to me is would the epitome of overrated….David Lee with shooting range…

                • Nilanka15

                  One dimensional???  He’s got inside range, outside range, he rebounds, and gets to the line (and actually converts free throws).

                  That’s 4 dimensions right there.

                • Destro

                  He plays no D,he’s purely an offensive player…

                • Destro

                  lol @ 4 dimensions,this from the guy who said hand eye coordination is athleticism…smh

                • sleepz

                  Are you saying Love is over-rated? I can’t agree with this notion. And I would definitely take Love over Griffin

                • Destro

                  Yes and he is….all star sure based on numbers,but his numbers dont equate to wins on the floor…sad truth friend…

                • Lorenzo

                   Are you serious? Did you really just type that? Okay guys, we got a troll here.

                • Destro

                  Elle Mago is a wet primo noodle in the post,im so serious…

                • CJT

                  I like how you all of a sudden switched to AB there to try and hide the fact that you have no clue.  You are doing a great job.  Keep up the good work.

                • Destro

                  get off my nuts Johnny…I made my pont about Love in 3 separate posts,aint my fault you cant read…

          • Nilanka15

            Is CP3 the only player in the NBA?

            Half this roster will be gone by training camp.  Any new player coming in won’t give two shits about previous losing seasons.

            TWolves are playing below .500 thanks to Rubio’s injury.

            • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

              You brought up CP3 not me- buddy.lmfao

              Wow so another high off season roster turnover(ACarter & RButler are already gone) what about some roster consistency outside of Jose Please Go Away & AB Who Me?

              Any new player(s) won’t be able to change the losing culture as long as Jose & AB are apart of it…..

              So says you- blame their fall to under .500 on a ROOKIE- let you go run & tell it.lol

              • Nilanka15

                You’re all over the place in terms of what your actual point is. 

                I’m saying there’s no such thing as a “losing culture” that leaks from one season to the next, as long as the players are different.  As a result, we have no reason to hope for wins this season.  Next season will be a clean slate.

                Aside: TWolves are 3-7 since Rubio went down.  How would you explain that?  Believe it or not, some rookies are indeed difference-makers.

                • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                  Wow.lmfao

                • Nilanka15

                  Ah yes, good point 😐

                • Destro

                  You cant be serious ? Explain 10 games ? Were talking about the T Wolves here…I would explain by saying they are a mediocre team,and mediocre teams go on 3-7 streaks…smh

                • Nilanka15

                  There were a .500 ball club before that.  In the tough Western Conference, considering how poor they were last year, that’s significant improvement.  Which brings me back to the original point (which both of you are missing), there’s no such thing as a “losing culture”.

                • Destro

                  lol @ non point…lottery team to a mediocre team and for that underwhelming achievement ur praising Rubio ? So his 9 and 8 with no jumper is responsible for them barely missing the playoffs as opposed to being in the lottery again? Typical bargnani fanboy ramble lacking any logic….
                  Guess what breh the team is a lil better too not just the PG who cant hit the ocean from a rowboat…
                  @ddbed5d43a58f64645d1359653f38aa9:disqus 

                • sleepz

                  Rubio too?lol 8 assists is significant for a rookie pg and he made the game easier for his teammates, but you are also ignoring the 2 steals per game and general ball harrassing he brings to the table on the defensive end. 

                • Destro

                  No im not…but its still a mediocre team we arguing..This guy is heaping praise to the 2nd best rookie PG ona  team thats going to miss the playoffs…that argument needs to be chin checked on spot…

                • Nilanka15

                  You think I’m a Bargnani fanboy???  Clearly you’re new here.

                  *Disregards all future posts*

                • CJT

                  Especially rookies with a ton of professional basketball experience. 

            • Lorenzo

              Nilanka don’t even bother. You can’t argue with a broken record.

              • Nilanka15

                Agreed…

        • Destro

          Clippers have slid since the all star break…

          • Nilanka15

            Fair enough.  But they’re clearly not affected by the countless previous years of losing.

            Losing isn’t some sorta of supernatural aura that envelops players.  The Raptors were once able to go from 27 to 47 wins over one summer.

            It’s a clear lack of understanding of the big picture if any Raptor fans are hoping for wins to finish this year.

            • Destro

              That was very flukey going to 47 in 06-07…That feat is very exaggerated….He came in had a horrible team,had cap space,#1 pick and an influx of useful role guys that stepped in and you have to add that most teams were not respecting them after coming off a 26 win season,so they won alot of games because teams didnt take them seriously….

              Easily the most exaggerated Colangelo talking point…Any GM could have came in with the assets he had to work with and had a big gains turnaround that off season… 

              • Nilanka15

                Seriously man, stick to the topic.  This isn’t about praising Colangelo.  It’s about the myth of a losing culture.  It can be erased in one summer.

                • Destro

                  You used an anamoly to create your argument,i simply pointed out it was an anamoly….

                • Raps4Ever

                  You’ve written me off due to a few spats and will ignore this, but I just have to say that I do sincerely appreciate your take being more balanced than many on here. As entertaining  as these bouts that you’re having with Destro are, his kind make me almost want to hug you and make up, hahaha.

                • Destro

                  These posts make you e-motional and want to hug men…

                  *filed and understood*

                • Raps4Ever

                  Now don’t get too excited. You need more than hugs, and I don’t roll that way.

                • Nilanka15

                  lol, point taken 😉

      • Lorenzo

        No, it really isn’t. All you gotta do is win. And to do that; you’d need GOOD PLAYERS. And how do you get good players again? Oh yea, that’s right.

        • Destro

          You get good players by tossing your old,bland primo rigatoni and sauce and buying some 12 oz steaks…

          • Lorenzo

            ?

            • CJT

              He’s saying that he prefers man meat in his mouth.

              • Destro

                Another homosexual reference  

                *filed*

    • NyAlesund

      So, it means no complain against AB, JC, JJ, GF……………………….They are going to lose for the pick.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    I read this in the forum and agree that the Raptors need to switch up their pizza promotion if they want fans to even try to believe BC’s latest defensive 1st pr spin to keeping teams under 100 points equals free pizza for the fans not scoring over 100 points.

    I mean at the beginning of the season the Raptors game announcer was still calling Bargnani the Raptors staring C in pre game line up introductions. 

    PR SPINS IN THE WIND….

    • Moe

      That’s Pizza Pizza’s promotion pal, that has nothing to do with the Raptors or BC.

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        Either way……..buddy….switch it up….

    • CJT

      No he wasn’t.  We already called you out on this one.  You were probably stoned then too, huffing model airplane glue in a bag and just misunderstood. 

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        Yes, he was for the first couple of home games, buddy.

        I don’t get high- anything to make your post seem plausible.

  • Pesterm1

    I cant see the Raptors cov ering the +5.5
    They have 2 new players playing today , Anderson and Uzoh. ( the guys have only been here 2 days. I cant see the team having much chemisty. Derozan is back today on an ankle that is probably still not 100 percent and has  been away for 2 games.

    Denver by 7

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      DD needs to shut it down until he’s 100%.

    • Nilanka15

      This is assuming Anderson and Uzoh get any significant minutes.

    • AB7.8pt.on3/11

      “Derozan is back” I guess thats the end of Forbes 500

  • Destro

    Id go Denver -10 easily…103-85 sumn like that

  • Akash_singh

    uggh, I think Im shutting it dwn this year, I like all the young talent the jazz have, and the young  players like kanter,favor,burks,haywar are all playing well and being held accountable (not like the wizards), L8R raps fans its been a blast………..

    • Joe

      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

  • c_bcm

    Need to have a work-appropriate warning for that link next time…or maybe I should be doing work instead of chilling on the internet…

  • Brian B

    How is Gary Forbes playing for next season and adding zeros onto his contract when he’s signed for next year at $1,500,000.00??? Are you saying he’s worth 15 MILLION???

    Fact checker, clean up on aisle three please.

  • FLUXLAND

    Get a grip, will ya?  Now we are crying over losing Ujiri?  This guy is a shoe salesman turned player babysitter. 
     
    “league source indicated Denver’s new general manager, Masai Ujiri
    is merely a messenger to the team’s real decision-makers: owner Stan Kroenke;
    his son, Josh; and Bret Bearup an
    adviser to the elder Kroenke”

    • Nilanka15

      The Nene trade will probably end up biting them in the ass too.  McGee is a douche.

      • FLUXLAND

        Nene, JR, CBills, KMart and Melo gone…what’s left? Birdman?

        It’s clear as day Ujiri was brought in to help smooth out the dismantling of the team and those clowns at that mining blog are talking about top 5 GM. Get out of the mine, stop hotboxing and get a f clue will ya?

        McGee may be acting like a douche, but NONE is denying his talent. If he gets it all together, and he will, Raptors fans will be crying.

        • Jimmy

          Once a douche, always a douche. This applies to McGee, and yourself.