This post is simply giving you Draft Express‘ view on the four players projected to go somewhere around where the Raptors will be picking. You can click on the name to go to their Draft Express page to read more, these are just summaries. Have a nice Sunday.

Kyrie Irving:

He shows excellent shooting mechanics and is already near-automatic with his feet set, also being very capable of making shots off the dribble with a quick release. He’s constantly probing the defense and won’t hesitate for a second to pull up for a 3-pointer if an opponent goes under the screen in hopes of cutting off his driving angle, which makes him quite a handful to game-plan against.

To complete the picture, Irving not only has the skill-set teams look for in a franchise point guard, but he also has the attitude and intangibles. He plays with great maturity and an amazingly confident demeanor on the court, an almost cocky swagger that makes it impossible for even the most casual observer not to realize who the best player on the court is. At some point in his career this might rub some people the wrong way, but considering the way he’s actually performing, no one on this Duke squad can dispute his alpha-dog status.

Luckily for the team that drafts him, according to all reports Irving is a serious, highly competitive and extremely intelligent player both on and off the court, with a terrific work ethic and a winning mentality. He not only talks the talk, but he walks the walk, making him exactly the type of prospect a NBA team would want to invest a high draft pick on.

Not as blazingly fast with his first step as Derrick Rose, John Wall, or even Kemba Walker, Irving plays at a very unique pace that keeps defenses consistently off-balance and allows him to get to the basket seemingly whenever he needs to. Able to drive left or right almost equally well, he has excellent timing on his drives, very good body control, and the ability to operate at different speeds. Rather than just attempting to blow by opponents using his pure first step, Irving instead likes to toy with his defender, using tricky stutter-steps, strong body fakes, and perfectly timed hesitation moves to beat opponents smoothly and slitherly.

Defensively, Irving won’t have any problems from a physical standpoint in the NBA, as he has good size, strength and lateral quickness, even if his wingspan probably won’t measure out off the charts. He’s already way ahead of where most freshman are on this end of the court too, as he plays with good intensity, has excellent fundamentals, and shows great timing jumping in the passing lanes. Like all freshmen, he has some issues defending off the ball and can get impatient coming out of his stance in long possessions, but these are minor qualms that can and likely will be corrected playing under one of the most respected coaches in all of basketball.

All in all, Irving is clearly an elite-level prospect who will only add to the embarrassingly rich crop of point guards the NBA is enjoying at the moment. He’s polished enough to help a team right away, but has plenty of potential to continue to improve at the same time, making him a very exciting prospect for a bad team to pluck very early in the draft

Kemba Walker

Walker wasn’t known as a great shooter coming out of high school, but he has put an unbelievable amount of time into improving his mechanics and increasing his range over the past few years. He’s absolutely deadly now – both with his feet set and off the bounce. The fact that he can find the space to get his shot off whenever he pleases makes him that much more difficult to guard, particularly at this level. It’s also made his shot fake (a frequent part of his arsenal) more credible, which has, in turn, made him an even more effective threat slashing to the basket.

Walker has always had terrific quickness and ball-handling ability, but it’s only this year seemingly that he’s really learned to use them at all times. Often quick to defer to teammates in his first two years at UConn Walker is embracing his role as the end-all, be-all offensive catalyst for the Huskies.

It’s simply impossible for defenders to stay in front of him – both in transition and in the half-court. His aggressiveness with the ball, ability to change speed and direction instantaneously, and phenomenal body control allow him to knife through defenses effortlessly. He’s not afraid to drive full steam into the paint and draw contact at the rim, either. He shows great strength and toughness around the basket and is getting to the free throw line at an exceptional rate.

Walker is noted for his strong intangibles and has showed improved leadership skills this season. He seems to enjoy making his teammates better and there’s no reason to think that won’t continue in the NBA where he’ll be surrounded by more talented players. The fact that he’s already a prolific pick-and-roll threat will only make his transition to the next level easier.

He is at times criticized for questionable shot selection and a penchant for playing out of control, but Walker’s turnover rate is down substantially this year. This is a very good sign, especially considering the huge role he’s forced to shoulder offensively. We’ve seen a handful of possessions this season that reminded us of Walker’s old ways, but nothing that should make NBA decision makers overly concerned. This is something to keep an eye on as the season progresses, as opposing coaches will surely be throwing everything in their arsenal at Walker in an attempt to slow him down.

Defense is the part of Walker’s game that will raise the biggest question marks from NBA evaluators – not because of his actual defensive ability, but rather his size. Standing somewhere around six-feet and change, Walker will always carry the “undersized” label, even though his height rarely affects him on the offensive end. He’ll match up against bigger, stronger, longer point guards in the NBA, which could make things more difficult. To his credit, though, he shows excellent lateral quickness, terrific instincts in the passing lanes and the type of toughness you come to expect from a New York City guard. Nevertheless, there is a bias amongst certain NBA-types against shorter point guards, which must be taken into account. While some will question his limited size and wonder how his game will translate to the next level, players such as Aaron Brooks, Brandon Jennings and Tony Parker have proved that point guards in this mold are incredibly valuable assets in today’s NBA.

On the offensive end, Walker has really become a much more reliable outside shooter this season, namely spotting up from behind the three-point arc. Walker has great mechanics, boasting a high and quick release with a smooth, consistent motion. He’s very effective with his shot both catching and shooting and pulling up in space, while he uses his excellent quickness and craftiness with the ball to create separation pretty consistently. He’s only making about one three per game, but he’s doing a lot of damage pulling up from inside the arc, while he’s also shown proficiency with pull-up jumpers and runners in the painted area.

Defensively, Walker plays aggressive, focused perimeter defense, getting into a good stance and moving his feet well to stay in front of his man. He sticks with his man well off the ball and doesn’t give up on plays, while also doing a good job in the passing lanes, pulling in 2.1 steals per game. Walker’s size is certainly an issue on this end of the court, however, as opponents can shoot over him and he doesn’t have the greatest strength, something that is problematic when getting through screens.

Looking forward, Walker clearly has a lot of attractive qualities from an NBA perspective, namely his outstanding first step and overall quickness, his ability to get separation, his improving outside shot, and his prowess in the pick-and-roll game. His decision-making remains inconsistent, though, and that’s something he’ll likely need to work on to become a starting point guard in the NBA.

Derrick Williams

For his height, Derrick Williams might be one of the best shooters at his position, shooting 56.8% from the three point line on 74 attempts. He is also top six nationally in the two advanced shooting metrics, posting an eFG% of 65.0% (6th nationally) and a TS% of 69.0% (4th nationally). In terms of his form, Williams has a very smooth stroke that is easy to repeat, no matter if he is catching and shooting or taking a shot off of the dribble. He takes off and lands in the same area, and his footwork is very good. ccording to Synergy Sports Technology, Derrick Williams is in the 96th percentile in terms of points per possessions in isolation situations, scoring about 1.130 per possession. Part of the reason Williams is so successful when he isolates his man is because he is quicker than most power forwards, but his defender can’t play off of him because of his shooting ability. The threat of Williams taking and making an outside jumper forces defenders to close the gap and not give Williams any space. Because of this, Williams is able to use his speed to his advantage and take the basketball to the rim. Williams is also an above average ball handler and this lets him get to the rim with ease.

Watching his film, the thing that stands out the most is how complete a scorer he’s become. Williams is a nightmare for college coaches to gameplan for. He’s able to shoot the ball from beyond the arc (knocking down an outrageous 70% of his attempts, on only about one make per game), operate effectively in the post, and create his own shot from the perimeter.

While his 3-point shooting percentages are likely to come down to Earth, and he may not be able to post up in the NBA at quite the same rate, Williams’ ability to create shots in isolation situations — where he ranks in the 99th percentile of college basketball players according to Synergy Sports Technology — is a highly coveted skill that most certainly will translate to the next level.

The deadly combination he brings to the table with his quick first step, long strides, polished footwork and outstanding body control hasn’t been seen in college basketball since Michael Beasley. Power forwards at this level simply have no way to slow him down, as evidenced by the incredible rate at which he gets to the free throw line. Better yet, he converts 76% of his attempts, up from 68% last season.

Not only can Williams create marvelously, he’s also an excellent finisher. He’s able to throw down emphatic dunks when given a head start and he shows the ability to contort his body and avoid contact in a manner more reminiscent of a wing player than a power forward.

He finishes with either hand, uses the glass extremely well and has a super soft touch that he uses to coax the ball into the basket from the most difficult of angles. Although he is prone to getting his shot blocked, Williams has such a quick second bounce that he’s often able to rebound his own miss and go up immediately with a follow-up attempt, usually before the flat-footed defense can react.

While he’s not the biggest player in this draft (he’s likely to measure somewhere between 6-8 and 6-9), nor the longest, Williams’ athleticsm, polished skills, high basketball IQ and fantastic scoring instincts are tools that NBA teams are in desperate need of these days. Smart, versatile power forwards who can create their own offense and score from anywhere on the floor are viewed by many as the second-most coveted players in the league right now after pick-and-roll point guards.

Where Williams lack of size really hurts him is on the defensive glass. In addition to getting caught watching the basketball and not holding his box out once in a while, Williams tends to get bullied around when the ball is in the air. The biggest example of that is when Williams gives up his inside position. Too many times, Williams gives up his position and lets his man get inside of him to the point it looks like he is the one trying to grab the offensive rebound. Add this lack of size to the fact that he doesn’t really hold his box-outs and that means he isn’t going to be grabbing as many rebounds as he should.

Enes Kanter

Measuring in at 6’10 with shoes on and sporting a 7’1 wingspan, Kanter wasn’t the tallest player on the floor, but his 260-pound frame afforded him a ton of success on the block. He’s not a great athlete by any standards, though he flashes some explosiveness from time to time, but uses his body as well as any player you’ll see on the high school level. He exceptionally good at using leverage, is extremely patient, won’t hesitate to initiate contact, and shows outstanding hands.

When Kanter gets the ball in the post off an entry pass or offensive rebound, he’s very good finding angles to create clean looks for himself at the basket. Able to establish deep position and showing an array of drop step moves and little pivots, Kanter has a knack for taking what the defense gives him and doing exactly what he needs to get the job done. Savvy beyond his years, Kanter excels at the rim for a player without outstanding athleticism.

Defensively, Kanter had some excellent possessions in practice, coming up with some blocks by being a step ahead of the play and contesting shots with his positioning, rather than his athleticism. His body helps him fight for position on the block, and his physical nature allowed him to deny penetration when his man attempted to take him off the dribble. Once the shot goes up, Kanter does a nice job of sealing off his man and pursuing the ball. Though his ability to rebound outside of his area wasn’t as apparent as it was in junior play, he’s still, more often than not, the player coming down with the ball in a crowd.

On top of his excellent skill level, Kanter impressed with his intangibles as well. He’s the type of quiet, competitive player that simply goes about his business without getting frustrated at officials or letting a few bad possessions throw off his game. The fact that he didn’t start the Hoop Summit game didn’t seem to faze him, as he could be seen enthusiastically supporting his team from the bench.

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  • ithoughtbiggirlsdontcrysteve

    Thought id add one more name to the list.


    • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

      I’m not sold BKnight- a volume shooter/scorer, as a high Lottery draft selection as JWall was much better than him coming out of Kentucky. Bledsoe (LAC) or Bayless (TOR) might be a better comparison.

      I’d take his teammate TJones over him as TJones is going to wow some folks in workouts when they get a real eye view of his dribbling, passing & physical attributes in person. TJones started out the season strong in Maui then leveled off a bit as the season wore on but I was impressed with his basketball iq as he hardly ever forced anything but played within the flow of the game. I will call TJones the potential Paul Pierce of this draft.

      If the Rap’s don’t get a top 2 selection they should consider trading down or out of the draft because I don’t like rookie pg’s & would rather have DWill (who played in the NCAA tourney with a broken pinky finger & still put in major work) in the TDot although alot of people are seemingly high or Irving.

      I think that the Rap’s should go the free agent route in search of a starting pg (Felton,Lawson) even if they get the top pick (DWill).

      As well Bismack Biyombo seems to be the media hype pre draft flavor of the month after a strong Nike Summit game- will he be another Serge Ibaka or Ike Diogu? Time will tell.

      • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

        Bismack is rising quickly even ESPN has him going 7th in their Lottery projection mock draft simulation. I have even seen him rated above Kanter by some NBA draft rating services.

      • sleepz

        Jones plays way to upright. His shot is also extremely streaky. Too inconsistent for a top 5 pick.

        • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

          Individual pre draft workouts will show off his physical attributes, skill level & bb iq to NBA team representatives.

          His shooting needs works but you can say that about every draft prospect coming out this year including Irving & Williams.

          TJones is a gym rat ala DD so I have no concerns that he will improve his overall total game with hard work & dedication.

          I’d love to have TJones as a Raptor if we can’t draft DWill or Irving (I don’t like NBA rookie pg’s not named Magic) hopefully the Raptors will see what I see in him and go get him draft night- if they don’t move up in the draft.

          • sleepz

            He put up great numbers last year so he definitely has potential and he’s young, my only concern is the lack of bend in his body and he’s not the most explosive athlete. That being said he does have a great feel for the game.

        • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

          Has Irving been consistent in college?

          Yet he is expected to go in the top 3 selections.

          This draft will come down to what teams individually like in said draftees as one scouting team may see some talent to cultivate that another scouting team may not and vice versa.

          I think when all is said and done (pre draft workouts) TJones will most definately go top 5- hopefully to the TDot if we don’t get DWill.

      • ak

        i don’t i quite follow your logic here mate.
        are u saying u don’t like brandon knight because he does not have as high potential as john wall coming from the same program?

        i like brandon knight a lot and think he has a lot more potential than people give him credit for. as a freshman he was incosistent but showed he can be a deadly shooter and a very good defender.

        • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

          He was a very good college player but he’s not better than Bledsoe let alone Wall- Kentucky’s guards from last season that are now playing in the NBA coming out of college. I doubt if he’s better than Bayless or will be better than Bayless.

          I wouldn’t draft him with a high Lottery pick.

          Potential usually gets GMs & coaches fired.

      • AwesomeGuest

        Lol Brandon Knight. Another me-first PG. Man, you guys will fall down to your knees for any new prospects it seems.

        • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

          I believe you misunderstood my posts as I don’t want BKnight in the TDot especially with a high Lottery selection.

          I don’t even want Irving in the TDot.

          Fyi- I don’t like rookie pgs not named Earvin Magic Johnson.

          • AwesomeGuest

            Nononono, I meant the first guy who posted

  • feas

    don’t forget Biyombo, Valanciunas, and Knight. Derrick Williams will likely be gone if we’re picking at #3 or later.

    • feas

      …and of course Irving too

    • Raptor4Ever

      How good of a rebounder and Help defender is Valanciunas ??

      • ak

        this pick is all about size apparently.

        ” Standing 6-6 ½ when he arrived in Vilnius in February of 2007, Valanciunas has grown at least four inches since (I’m now 210 centimeters [almost 6-11] without shoes,” he informed us) and has slowly grown into his excellent frame. He’s retained all of the quickness he had earlier on in his career and still sports a mammoth 7-6 wingspan, (again according to him.)

        “I have very long arms,” Valanciunas says modestly, with a smile. “It helps a lot.” ” –

        i wonder how wide his body is though. if he is as wide as lamarcus aldridge or marcus camby, he can become a serious defensive stopper.

    • JohneRay

      Kanter is an intriguing prospect. Most have only seen him on Youtube in the 2010 Nike Hoop Summit game when he performed like a beast. Based on one event, he was unstoppable. He scored 34 points with 13 rebounds (beating Nowitzki’s previous point record total) and helped hold Jared Sullinger to 22 points and 8 rebounds. A year has passed since then.

      A rising draft star this year is Bismack Biyombo. In the 2011 Nike Hoop Summit, Bismack produced an impressive triple-double of 12 points, 11 rebounds and 10 blocks. Unfortunately, no one knows how old he really is and he is cryptic in replying to questions about his age (you would think the response would be automatic). Bismack has gone viral and some are suggesting that he be our pick despite being extremely raw, offensively challenged and likely foul prone.

      Kanter basically disappeared for a year. He has become the “mystery meat” of this year’s draft.

      There are no games to point to this year showing Kanter’s progress. The only evidence we have of any improvement is based on what team mates have discussed in his position as assistant undergraduate coach.

      There are various blogs/articles that give some insight based on the views of his team amates.

      Kentucky was extremely high on him all year long. Josh Harrelson put in a great performance against Ohio State in the March Madnesstournament while channelling his inner “Enes”. Harrellson had a team high 17 points and 10 rebounds saying “I came out and played like Enes would play. I think it was a good thing.”

      According to Brandon Knight, having Kanter around, “…helped us big-time, because he’s one of the best big men in the country.” Knight indicated that Kanter helped improve Kentucky’s already impressive team defense because of his versatile offensive abilities.

      He has also been vital to improving the game of Josh Harrellson. After career averages of 2.7 points and two rebounds per game, Harrellson broke out in the NCAA tournament to average almost 15 points and 9 rebounds per game. He has gone toe-to-toe with high-profile centers Jared Sullinger of Ohio State and Tyler Zeller of North Carolina.

      According to Harrellson, “Even if I’m not even going against (Kanter), just watching him do something (in practice), I’m trying to match what he does. Just doing that makes me more confident. Being able to stop him in practice and playing against him every day — playing against the best of the best — just makes me go into every game knowing I’m not going to play somebody as good as Enes.”

      This sounds like impressive praise.

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      I suspect that had Kanter played, the third pick would not have been an issue.

      As it is, he will make discussions intriguing as a hybrid PF/C. A “european” big man who spent a year training in the U.S.

      • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

        Just say no to Kanter.

  • jd4

    Great reviews. Thank you for posting them. Irving to me, seems the best guy to get if he’s available when the Raptors draft. One question about Williams. I haven’t seen him play much. But, I read a scout’s take on him back in January. The scout basically said that at 6’8″, he’s got the height of a small forward but he doesn’t have the speed to play the 3 at the NBA level. He’s much better suited towards being an undersized 4. The scout felt he’d do well as an undersized 4. For those of you who have seen him play, would you agree with the scout’s assessment?

    • woofwoof

      if the raps draft Kanter they are dead to me… again.

    • ezz_bee

      I’ve watched him play and I do think he could play at the 3. More importantly I’ve read stuff from other scouts who do think he can play the 3. Time will tell but if we draft him I think we should try him out at the 3.

      • AwesomeGuest

        No scouting report I’ve read on D Will said that he’d play the 4 spot at the NBA level. Every single one says he’d play the 3 spot, there is no question about it.

    • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

      I have watched DWill since HS he has the speed, skill level & will to compete needed in order to play SF in the NBA without a doubt.

      DWill has stated out of his own mouth that he sees himself as an NBA SF.

      Once NBA pre draft individual workouts commence people will see exactly what DWill’s skill level is in person with their own 2 eyes.

  • To me Kemba will be an ok pro but not an All-Star or anything close.

    Think Nate Robinson.

    • Toshmon

      Hes a better passer and has than Robinson & has better bball iq, just nobody was on his team at Uconn.

      Robinson couldn’t win a national title if he tried. Sweet 16 appearance was his best.

      You never know about allstar potential…. after watching Derick Rose and Joey Dorsey on Memphis nobody thought he would be the best pg in the game.

      • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

        You don’t have to shit on Nate in order to big up Walker- recognize.

        Many people thought DRose could be a potential All Star pg and/or best NBA pg in a few years but maybe not MVP of the whole League in a few years.

        • mountio

          Totally .. how can you say nobody thought D Rose would be the best pg in the game? He was drafted consensus 1st overall in a fairly strong draft. He was essentially the top player out of high school in his draft year. This guy has had star written all over him for a long time …
          Agree with BCG, maybe people werent predicting MVP this soon, but pretty much everyone thought this guy was an all star ..

    • Raptor4Ever

      But Nate was a 2nd round pick !! Here, are talking about top 3 pick.

      • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

        Nate was a 1st round NBA draft selection- 21st by Phoenix, then he was traded to NY on draft night.

        • Raptor4Ever

          Thanks for the correction. I thought he actually slipped to the 2nd round.

          • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

            No worries.

            Isaiah Thomas- University of Washington, sleeper pg pre draft.

    • Bendit

      Maybe Jhonny Flynn…who also climbed in the tournament, on the small side and hasnt exactly lit it up in the pros.

  • weemsfan

    we should take a pg, but if we dont get knight, walker or irving, we should take cory joseph in the second round

  • Kevin

    If we draft Kanter, Valanciunas, I am done. Irving or Williams or die.

    • As I asked another poster, why?

      • tonious35

        If “Kevin” statement happens, I will have a knee-jerk reaction and get pissed off, because the “Centers” that the Raptors have taken in the high 1st round through franchise history, have been busts in either terms of gritty post defense, B-Ball IQ, heart & effort, rebounding, and consistency to fulfill the needed requirements of Center. The Raptors have never ever gotten an under 25 yr old 6’11” 250-260 lb center that accomplishes getting 9-10 rebounds, 2 blocks and 8-10 pts. They always collected bust-white centers (Alec Rad., Araujo, and Bargs) that end up being rejected out of T.O. I can’t hope if we “waste” a high pick on another “whitish-center”, that we will be successful at all with it because it feels like we are cursed with it. Unless the Kanter or the Valanciunas can prove us “haters” wrong and bring some talented-toughness in the post, then the curse is broken.

        • Bendit

          The Raps many moons ago did draft that center you yen for. He is still playing. Marcus Camby.

          • chief

            Haha Camby and his twiggy ass wasn’t tippin more than 210-220 when he was with us… i know he’s been a strong defender for years now, but even if the defensive skills were there initially, it took him quite a while to actually develop the strength part. early on the knock on Camby consistently was his lack of physicality and durability… consider that dude has averaged 55 games/year over his career and averaged only 50 his first 7 seasons.

            hardly the inside ‘beast’ that the Raptors have clearly never ever had (at least not at the right point in their careers) and clearly have always needed.

      • woofwoof

        because he is from turkey

    • triano

      I’m done if we draft Val, but i’ll take Kanter at #3 or later in the draft.

      Val is going to be an epic bust. He has absolutely no skill, is simply a scrawny energy player. He actually reminds me of a white Solomon Alabi with a slightly better motor.

  • The Easter Bunny

    Just thinking (or writing, rather) aloud, and others have made this point, but maybe Colangelo flips the draft pick at whatever position in a trade. (Truth be told, I’m still dreaming of Steph Curry in a Raps uniform ever since the GS owner said he was expendable b/c of Ellis.)

    • LeeZ

      Personally, I would LOVE to get Curry for our draft pick, even if it’s the number one overall. Great shooter, including the three and free throws, steal and a half a game, almost as many boards as Il Mago (!), and exciting as all hell. Maybe Irving becomes a great one, maybe he doesn’t. But for my money, it’s a bird in the hand thing. Thoughts?

      • Raptor4Ever

        But will they just give him to us for our Draft Pick in this weak draft year !!! I think GS would want more , maybe offload a big contract they have or … for giving up Curry. Maybe:

        Toronto: Amir Johnson + Pick
        GS : Curry + Biedrins

        Would we do this ? How is Curry’s defense ?

        • The Easter Bunny

          Yup, I would imagine GS would want more than a pick. I have no idea how the numbers would add up (especially in a new CBA), but I would hesitate giving up Amir (I like him and Davis at the four going forward). Calderon though, since he would do well dishing out to Ellis and Co?

          As for Curry’s defense – not sure, though I’ve read that it’s not great. When I’ve seen him play, he doesn’t strike me as a shut down guy (but that may also be GS’s style of play). Then again, on the Raptors…

  • Mediumcore

    Irving will go first overall, so unless we somehow luck out to get the first pick or trade up forthe first pick he won’t be around for the taking.

    Right now I can’t see them wanting to get younger at the big positions, so I’m not sure if Kanter is high on their list. Unless one of the bigs gets traded I can’t see them drafting a rookie Centre.

    I’d say they go with Williams and move him to SF where he can be a Shawn Marion type player that will be able to guard multiple positions depending on match ups or maybe trade down to pick up Knight.

    On a side note I just wanted to say Brandon Roy’s performance from yesterdays game was just simply epic. Not trying to bring up that he could have been a Raptor, but with all the talk about how much basketball is left in his knees and the hardship that guy has gone through it just could not have happened to a nicer guy. The fans were just nuts as he willed that team to victory. It’s games like that which make me a basketball fan and I look forward to the day Toronto Raptor fans have something to cheer that loud about. Hope everyone is enjoying the playoffs as much as I am.

  • Calh96

    It’s a bad draft to have a high pick as i only see Irving being a top player in the future so either trade down or hope for the no.1 in the lottery.

    • If it’s a bad draft, why are you trading down? TO get an even worse player? And if the draft really is weak, chances are you aren’t going to get much for the pick. Besides, I’ve never been a proponent of trading down. The team that trades down rarely comes out better.

      • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

        Well, if the Rap’s can acquire an assets for trading down ie a player(s), present or future pick(s) and still get an equatable talent that they would have had at their previous draft position then why not?

        Or potentially dump an asset ie Calderon, for allowing a team to switch draft positions with us- why not?

        After the 1st 2 players (maybe Biyombo as well) the draft levels off in talent so unless a team has their eyes set on a certain player they can still draft at talent value while saving $$ on the drafted rookie’s contract.

        • triano

          Bitchsmack Bimbo is the armpit of this draft. Honestly, the hype is sad.

        • Raptor4Ever

          If BC is serious about trading Jose, then he needs to either sweeten the deal with some sort of pick or take back an equally bad contract. I don’t see why any other team wants to have anything to do with that contract.

        • Trading down basically means lesser talent. Trading it away for a future pick is a massive gamble because you never know where that pick might end up. You could be trading a 3rd pick this year for a 15th pick next year.

          And I don’t think there should be that much desperation to trade Calderon. The first order of business should be to add the best talent possible, and that rarely happens by trading down.

          • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

            Not in this draft outside of the top 2 selections you can get the same talent value you can at 3 as at 10.

            Not to trade this years pick for a future pick but to trade it for a pick this season plus a future pick for a team wanting to move up in the draft.

            The best talent might not be in the draft for certain teams as the last thing the Rap’s need in another young player. Maybe they can acquire a proven vet for their draft pick.

            We wouldn’t even have this pick if CB signed with Miami outright as he could have done as BC traded it away in the JO deal while trying to fix another one of his documented mistakes over his 5 year tenure as both Raptors President & GM.

            Jose has to go just for all the bad karma that comes with him ie point guard battles because he’s not better than his back ups because he is a back up himself that BC has paid like a starter, from being the longest tenured Raptor.

            As soon as BC-Gheradini-Jay-Bargnani-Calderon are removed from the Franchise the better off Raptors basketball will be.

            • Jonathan

              “you can get the same talent value you can at 3 as at 10” + “for a team wanting to move up in the draft” = ?

              It’s either one or the other; why would a team trade anything of value if the talent is the same from 3 to 10?

              “the last thing the Rap’s need in another young player. Maybe they can acquire a proven vet for their draft pick.”

              Why? So they can go from a bad team to a mediocre one with, again, not much upside? The last thing the Raptors need is to think the talent level of the young core is sufficient to start building for the playoffs again.

              “We wouldn’t even have this pick if CB signed with Miami outright as he could have done as BC traded it away in the JO deal”

              Wrong, wrong, wrong again. The pick we traded to Miami and re-acquired in the Bosh S&T was lottery protected until sometime in the middle of the decade. This year’s pick would have been ours regardless of what happened with Bosh.

              “Jose has to go just for all the bad karma that comes with him ie point guard battles”

              You mean all the “point guard battles” imagined by Raptors’ fans? The first “battle” with Ford hardly counts against Calderon as it was Ford who lost the starting job. And you’re deluded if you think Bayless is anywhere close to Calderon’s level at the current moment.

              • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

                1. You see, if a team potentially becomes enamored with a certain player in this relative draft they may want to trade up to make sure that they can select him- comprehend? In doing so they may agree to take on a contract or trade away some assets in the Rap’s favor.

                2. The Rap’s need an influx of more proven NBA talent not more rookies- point blank, unless you want to be the TWolves or Clippers of the East stuck in the NBA Lottery quagmire.

                3. The draft pick is Lottery protected until 2015 or when Rap’s make playoffs which ever comes 1st.

                4. The only thing that Jose does better than Bayless is pass the ball. Plus, Bayless isn’t a walking X-Ray like Jose ie durability.

  • Johnn19

    Raptors pick the best available talent per BC.
    1. Irving
    2. Williams
    3. Walker
    4. Kanter
    5. Knight

    • triano

      I would boycott the franchise if they took walker at 3 (or anywhere in the lottery).

      • POINTS

        your a big dummy if you did that ,this guy will get this franchise 3 awards EOY,COY and ROY >>>>>>CARDIAC KEMBA<<<<< coming soon to the RAPTORS .

        trust me

  • Raptor4Ever

    “Measuring in at 6’10 with shoes on and sporting a 7’1 wingspan, Kanter wasn’t the tallest player on the floor, but his 260-pound frame afforded him a ton of success on the block. He’s not a great athlete by any standards.”

    Kanter can not play Center in NBA. He is just too small and not athletic enough. He will however, be a great PF in this league but we do have 2 other ones already fighting for minute unless we are planing to trade one of them. I have a feeling he is going to drop to under 10 and if BC is really keen, then he can maybe acquire around draft by trading one of his trading chips in AB or Amir.

    Walker’s height is a real concern for me. With the emergence of PGs like Rose and Westbrook in this league, I am not sure if he can be an effective defensive PG in this league.

    • mountio

      Agree. As much as I dont want to touch Kanter with a ten foot pole .. I think I want Kemba even less. He will not be an impact NBA player at the offensive and will be a defensive liability.
      Assuming Irving and DWill are gone (I hope not!) .. i think I trade the pick or take someone like T Jones ..

  • KJ-B

    JAN VASELY oR Kemba Walker–I’ll be happy with either if #1 eludes us…

  • Pesterm1

    for th3 3rd pick and if williams and irving are gone i want either brandon knitght or valanciunas

  • Terrance Jones does look alright…. on another note if we draft a PG…what do you think the dynamic will be between Bayless and say Irving?…and what would happen to Calderon?

    • mountio

      My guess would be that Bayless is either traded or not getting much playing time (barring injury) and Calderon comes off the bench (a role hes done before and is well suited for at this stage of his career.). Bayless might see time at the backup 2 as well, depending on who else we still have ..
      Of course, JB wont like this .. but thats the least of our concerns if we could somehow get Kyrie ..

      • mountio

        didnt say this .. but of course we would move calderon if we could .. just dont think there would be many takers ..

  • Basketball: Messina, Bargnani enigma? He does not deserve the mud in Toronto
    Last Updated: April 20, at 20:16
    Rome, April 20 – (Adnkronos) -”Bargnani and ‘grew from year to year, and’ always improved. Did not deserve those piles of mud.” Canadian criticism to the ‘magician’ is excessive and unjustified: word coach Ettore Messina. Andrea Bargnani and ‘come under fire by Jerry Colangelo, president and general manager of the Toronto Raptors, after the negative closed season with 22 victories and 60 defeats. The long Roman, the first overall pick in 2006, ended the year with 21.4 points and 5.2 rebounds per game, often charging the attack on the shoulders of training led by coach Jay Triano. Conference in late season, Bargnani Colangelo called”the enigma of all enigmas”pointing the finger at the player, into a sort of scapegoat.
    ”It does not seem right,”says Messina, who coached Benetton Treviso to Bargnani. Andrea,”says the coach-ADNKRONOS has always done better every year. I’ve coached, I know that person ‘. Has certain technical features, like everyone needs to feel at ease to do their best. Pull his piles of mud on him does not seem quite correct: in addition, we are not talking about a selfless young man. It ‘a player who can stay in a dressing room and know what’ a team.”

    • Raptor4Ever

      Buddahfan is back !!! Wow, We have not seen you here for ever. Hope everything is OK. As one of the biggest Amir Johnson fans and a person who has followed him for years now, Can you tell us all how tall he is ?

    • dalmatino

      Jerry – father, Bryan – son and GM of Toronto Raptors. The rest is OK.

    • hateslosing

      Not sure if this is the same interview but I thought I’d add it.

      Ettore Messina ahead to defend Andrea Bargnani. The Wizard was recently attacked by Jerry Colangelo, president of the Toronto Raptors, who defined it as “the enigma of all enigmas. ”
      The former coach of Real Madrid, widely considered as the next coach of Milan, there is, and is in favor of the Roman, who else has had a team at the time of Benetton Treviso. “Bargnani has grown from year to year, and it is always better. I do not look correct, did not deserve those piles of mud. I’ve coached, and I know that person is. Know what a team, and he knows to be in a dressing room. I respect the views of all, and certainly not allow me to enter into detailed technical talks from the outside. In general, however, we are dealing with a player in constant growth, which does not play for stats, but for the team. Of course, not be exciting to be part of a team of twenty wins a season. ”
      Messina concludes: “Who has been appointed general manager for two times of the year we expect something more constructive. From the perspective of marketing and communications, vote this way on a player who is still under contract is not exactly brilliant. ”

  • FAQ

    Raptors don’t need another rookie project player … just trade him off for NBA proven players. What about Rubio ….???

    • BCGheradiniJayGots2Go!!

      Is Rubio- aka media hype, a proven NBA player?

      • sup?

        Rubio aint gonna be shit in the NBA. OVER HYPED