Toronto Raptors 100 FinalRecap | Box Score 107 Sacramento Kings
Andrea Bargnani, C 27 MIN | 3-14 FG | 2-2 FT | 3 REB | 3 AST | 8 PTS | -18A game that started out promising for Bargs but completely went off the rails as it went along. His forcing of three-pointers at the start of the shot clock has become a big issue for the Raps – if he’s not hitting his shots, leaving him out there means 3 or 4 fewer possessions a half on offense. His half-decent man D down the stretch is the only thing that saved him from an F.
Jonas Valanciunas, C 16 MIN | 1-4 FG | 1-2 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 3 PTS | -10Had a great pump fake/dunk move early in the game against Cousins, but that was about it. Rightfully sat in the fourth quarter – he looked lethargic and was bullied by Cousins in the low post. A little bit bad matchup, a little bit fatigue, but not his best game in any case.
Kyle Lowry, PG 38 MIN | 9-20 FG | 12-12 FT | 5 REB | 11 AST | 34 PTS | -6Some of his offensive decisions were poor, and he threw away a couple of passes to nobody in particular – but I feel like I’m nitpicking here. The only Raptor (minus Pietrus, who didn’t get any shots down the stretch) who was constantly bringing the ball inside and doing his damndest to get to the line in the fourth, where he made every free throw he took. His superhero routine is occasionally awful to watch, but tonight, it was warranted.
Mickael Pietrus, SG 40 MIN | 8-15 FG | 3-3 FT | 6 REB | 1 AST | 21 PTS | -11Apparently the jet-lag from France has worn off. Pietrus was excellent offensively tonight, hitting open shots when they were there and taking advantage of match-ups against the diminutive Aaron Brooks by forcing him into the post. Seeing 21 points – and 39 effective minutes – in the box score from our starting 3 is absolutely shocking. That dunk early in the fourth was a thing of beauty. Great performance.
DeMar DeRozan, SG 40 MIN | 7-16 FG | 0-2 FT | 5 REB | 1 AST | 14 PTS | -6I had a hard time picking a grade for DeMar – his shot selection seemed good, and he was mugged by the Kings (and the refs) a few times. That said, he absolutely disappeared down the stretch, when Lowry was looking for someone, anyone, to help carry the load offensively. B- is around the middle of the scale, and that seems about right.
Ed Davis, PF 23 MIN | 5-10 FG | 3-4 FT | 11 REB | 0 AST | 13 PTS | +9Heart and hustle, baby. Had difficulties matching up defensively against Sacramento’s bigs before the team switched to a zone, but made up for it with excellent effort and strong rebounding. A quiet double-double, but he was the Raps best player through the first half.
Amir Johnson, PF 31 MIN | 1-1 FG | 2-2 FT | 4 REB | 5 AST | 4 PTS | +5Had his issues with Cousins, like all the Raptor bigs, but played him tough and was active on the glass, especially late. Rightfully played down the stretch over Jonas, who was getting bullied inside. Unproductive game offensively, but one of the few Raps to stand their ground on defence, and anchored the zone that brought the team back in the 3rd.
Jose Calderon, PG 14 MIN | 1-3 FG | 1-1 FT | 1 REB | 4 AST | 3 PTS | -3Another rough one for Jose, who made some uncharacteristic passes that led to easy Sacramento turnovers (and points) for the second game in a row. Provided little offense, except for a late 3, and had difficulties on D, even against the shoot-only Jimmer Fredette, who he left open on the perimeter for his only made 3 of the night.
Terrence Ross, SG 12 MIN | 0-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 PTS | +5Didn’t get many minutes, partly due to Pietrus’ effectiveness, and partly due to his own inability to contribute tonight. A game to forget.

Five Things We Saw

  1. The Kings are a team that thrives on scoring in the paint, and the Raptors let them do that at will in the first half. A combination of forced jumpers and poor passes leading to fast-breaks, aggressive (and poor) help defence, and a strong Sacramento front line were the culprits. You can’t do much about strength with the current roster, but better decisions with the ball and in man defence would have made a difference tonight.
  2. Casey switched the Raptors into a zone early in the 3rd quarter, which allowed the Raptor defenders to help on the Kings’ drives at the expense of giving away the long range shot. The plan worked to a T, the Kings looked lost, and the Raptors got right back into the game – notable because, to my knowledge, this is the first time this year a Raptor zone hasn’t been a complete train-wreck.
  3. Maybe it was just me, but it sure looked like tonight the Raptors could get whatever shot they wanted, whenever they wanted, and yet they still chose to barrage the Kings from long range instead of go for higher percentage shots in the post. Only Lowry, Pietrus (who had some beautiful post-ups) and DeRozan for stretches figured this out. A jump shooting offense is a streaky offense, and you could see the game ride the ebbs and flows of the Raptor shooters – hot in the first, cold in the second, hot in the third, cold in the fourth. It’s a coin-flip offense, and it’s tough to keep seeing it let the team down in close games time after time.
  4. DeMarcus Cousins is a BEAST. Not only did he eat Jonas’ lunch in the first half, he hit an array of impossible shots in the fourth to keep the Kings close before Evans’ clinching 3s. Deceptively quick, and (not deceptively) strong, he was a matchup nightmare for Casey and the Raptor bigs all game long.
  5. Tyreke Evans’ back-to-back threes in the fourth put the game away for the Kings, but you can’t exactly blame the Raps for letting him shoot. He’s at 27% from long-range this year, which is incredibly better than his career average, so the chances of him making two in a row? Roughly 16 to 1…Yep, it’s been that kind of season so far.

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  • Destro

    Forget about the fact when hes traded the team will be better off,im now more looking forward to him getting benched and his teammates scolding him mid game for some of the things hes allowed to get away with here unchecked…Its undeniable now he HAS to GO….

    • raptorspoo

      Forget AB. Let’s start with BC and then the whole friggin team. Wasn’t this the year we were suppose to compete? 

      I’ve been saying this since forever but we’ve gotta trade anything with any semblance of value for future draft picks and then tank the crap out of the next few seasons if we want to have any hope to compete.

      I’d rather watch rookies, who are potential stars, losing all the time rather than this garbage that BC has assembled.

      • Scottbbaird

        We’ve already been tanking for years, stockpiling rookies to get where we are now…? The answer is in a new GM and no more “old raptors” (7 and 8).

        • raptorspoo

          Tanking? The best we could do since BC came in was 5th pick (not incl the one he was gifted with upon arrival)~ we’ve been trying to compete with garbage, NOT tank. Our other picks were 8, 9, 13, 17. Sure we’ve stockpiled bench player type rookies. Usually superstar type players are gone with the first or 2nd pick.
          The year we won 1st pick (which BC had no hand in) we were screwed by Stern and the age limit change otherwise Durant could have been in Toronto.

          Our problem is not old raptors but just mediocre young ones. How do expect to win with that?

          Just had to add:
          Just read Matt52’s post “Youth is not the problem. Lack of talent is.”… seems like he’s done brown-nosing BC finally lmao

          • Theswirsky

            the entire idea this team has been tanking over the years is a farce.  They’ve unintentionally sucked because of BC’s inability to recognize talent. Thats not tanking, thats shitting the bed.

            • cb


  • Jamshid

    I can not find any reason why AB is still here as a Raptor or not sitting on the bench ! The dude does NOT want to be here. His body language is screaming ” get me out of here”.

    • Jag

      AB is tired of playing with a bunch of stiffs. He knows there is no single effort that can make this team (as evidenced by Lowry’s play tonight) and the many good games Bargs has had over the years that have still resulted in losses. He is frustrated and needs a change of scenery as soon as possible. He is tired of waiting for this team to jell, trade him Colangelo for everyone’s sake!

      • Scottbbaird

        He’s paid to give a shit.

      • Jamshid

        I agree 100%

      • cb

        what are you, AB’s agent? fucking delusional….

  • ghost

    I’m so tired of Lowry and his hero ball.

    • Dbobb28

      I would agree with you on some nights but not this one. How many open jumpers did AB miss in the fourth? Did Derozen look like he wanted to take control? Once again, Demar lets non calls get him frustrated. I would have loved to see Ed Davis on in the fourth instead of AB. Davis had more rebounds than AB, Amir and Jonus combined. 
        You could see Lowry getting frustrated as he passed to players who would miss open jumpers. He got to the free throw line and was perfect. This is not one game I can fault Kyle

      • ghost


    • FAQ

      pts. 11 asts. 5 rebs. …. and then after the game he hugs all those
      Kings players and from his facial expressions and liptalk he complains
      about his Raptor teammates to his pals..!!!!!

      Of course, he may have a point about his clumsy teammates…..


      • tweed8

         So you heard him complain about his teammates to the opposing team did you?

        • FAQ

          It was written all over his face …. so obvious.

          • Lorenzo

            You dont know what the fuck youre talking about, just making stuff up like always.

            Like a 14-year old pre-buscent female in middle school spreading gossip…

          • Nilanka15

            But Bargnani’s had the same blank stare on his face for the past 7 years.  How can anyone crack that riddle???  😛

    • et-man

      I agree with your assessment. He is an absolute hog with the ball and leaves his teammates vulnerable on defence when he drives to the basket misses and falls down. He can score 50 points a night and unless he gets his teammates more involved instead of forcing them to be spectators, they will lose a lot more games. It’s a team game not an individual sport.

      So what happens when his shots don’t go in? His defence isn’t that great either. Evans burned him for 2 threes to win the game.

      Bargnani is gone which is a foregone conclusion most likely after Christmas, but if you think the raptors are going to win a lot more games in the long run, forget it. They don’t play as a team, bottom line. 

      Just saying.

  • ZZ

    DD only got two Fts the whole game and the refs were taking a dump on everyone not named Lowry.

    • mountio

      Just because DD flails his arms in the air when he goes to the hoop doesnt mean its a foul. He needs to bring it strong and he will get calls. No more complaining …

      • Destro

        There were several times he got hit and was not called…Lets not act like he is not getting those calls,we have seen it all season…He flailed his arms cuz ‘reke got em across the arm…

  • Disheartened

    I’m guessing the Calderon grade is a mistake? 

    • Garrett Hinchey

      Indeed it is – I’ll change that right now. Thanks for pointing that out.

      • Scottbbaird

        Still wrong, should be an F. Is there an F-?

  • AJ

    I’m not even worried about what we get for Bargnani at this point, it could be a 2nd rounder for all I care but the guy has to get the fuck out of here asap. I would then like to see Colangelo get fired which will have to happen before Bargnani is gone. This team is a train wreck

  • ad

    I hope this game will silence the idiotic lowry haters. I doubt it though. The guy is the best player on the raptors by a big margin. Its sad but I cant wait till bargs and calderon are traded for gasol. At this point, I think its inevitable when that fucktard BC realizes he has no choice.

    • ghost

      Lakers would be insane to make that trade. Gasol for Ilyasova and Dalembert makes more sense for both teasms.

      • Minks77

        totally disagree. LAL like Jordan Hill and Sacre (funny how LAL has 2 canucks)and Sammy just cuts into their minutes. Illy is playing worse than AB this year and cannot be traded just yet anyway AND is a longer contract (5/40m vs 2/20). Jose helps them more than SD and AB vs Illy is more or less a wash.

        For the Bucks Gasol doesn’t fit their up n down guard penetration style at all.

        • ghost

          Sacre sucks and that’s why he isn’t playing. Illy is having a bad year. However, AB is having a bad 7 years. I pretty sure any GM would take Illy over AB. Contract length is irrelevent. Lakers need to win now and his contract is more than reasonable. Illy can be traded on Dec 15.

          • Minks77

            Illy is not that superior to bargs, bargs, forall his faults puts up digits more consistently. Illy had a good year last year (contract) but has been wildly inconsistent in the past and is simply awful in the present. Sacre is raw but the lakers definitely see him as having potential, but he’s a rookie project who may return value down the line which is very important to a perpetually capped out team.

            As for cap room being irrelevant, well that’s just silly.

            • ghost

              “As for cap room being irrelevant, well that’s just silly.” Read my comment again. Sacre doesn’t mean shit to the Lakers. So why the fuck do you keep talking about him. 

              • ghost

                The only reason AB has put up consistent numbers is because he has been the #1 option on one of the worst teams for the past 7 years. His shooting efficiency is horrible and he does absolutlely nothing else…NOTHING!!!

                • Minks77

                  I agree that he’s been bad, I’m not a supporter of his, just pointing out that it’s nearly a wash when comparing to Illy. 

                  You said his contract is irrelevant, I say BS. LAL have openly talked about having space for 2014 free agent class and an 8 million a year guy on their cap isn’t doing that. Bargs would be coming off then which would open up 10 million for them. 

                  As for Sacre I was mearly pointing out that LAL have options at centre behind D12 (Hill, Sacre) who are younger and cheaper than Sammy D. I mentioned him, you shot back, I retorted. It’s a fuckin message board THATs why he keeps coming up.

                  All that aside, how does Gasol help the run n gun Bucks????????

                • ghost

                  For the last time Sacre is not an option. He was the last pick in the draft and belongs in the D-league. He’s the 15th man in their rotation playing garbage minutes. He’s NOT an option. And Jordan is is basically a PF. How does Gasol help the run n gun Bucks…I guess the same way he’s gonna help the run and gun Lakers (uh, Mike D’ Antoni). PS. Gasol is out with tendinitis in both knees and says he’s about 60% right now. Which means if he does get healthy I’m pretty sure he’ll be more mobile gettig up and  down the floor. 

      • unknown guest

        AB + JC fit very well in D’Antoni’s system and will flourish there. AB won’t be a focal point and can camp at the 3, and JC only has to bring up the ball and pass it safely to KB8/DH and then park at a diff 3 spot to space the floor.

        • ghost

          Lakers are trying to win a championship. That’s not going to happen by picking up AB and JC, agruably two players that are probably the worst defensively at that individual positions.

          • unknown guest

            Ah, but on the Lakers, they don’t have to play so many minutes together + Kobe, MTW, and DH, are arguably and upgrade defensively + Lakers get the ref calls–somethings Raps don’t

            • ghost

              LOL…doesn’t make any sense so I will just leave it at that…nice try dude.

    • FAQ

      pts. 11 asts. 5 rebs. …. and then after the game he hugs all those
      Kings players and from his facial expressions and liptalk he complains
      about his Raptor teammates to his pals..!!!!!

      Of course, he may have a point about his clumsy teammates…..


    • Nilanka15

      I read on Yahoo that Lakers made a verbal promise to Nash (upon signing him) that they wouldn’t deal Gasol.  If this is true, and they stay true to their word, Gasol isn’t getting traded before Nash has a chance to play with him.

  • D-a-nward

    After watching the game, how is it possible for Colangeno to say that the team is better if we keep Bargnani.

    • Scottbbaird

      Let the man clutch his illusions, his time is numbered.

    • NyAlesund

       Colangelo is trying to cover his ass. He knows that AB is no longer a Raptors.

      • FAQ

        … and it looks like Lowry doesn’t want to be a Raptor either… given how he hugged all those Kings players after the game, who were also commiserating with him.

        (“Man, Kyle… how did ya’ get stuck on this bunch of losers…??!!!” – Cousins)

  • Phat AlberG

    Who ever we get its going to be same problem, the Raptors don’t know how develop players.  Last time we developed any player that was good Butch Cater was coaching the team.  But you guys on this site keep drinking the red kool aid, because I keep telling you guys on here Casey is a terrible coach.  Look at the play drew up after the time out lol get ball Bargnani in the post let him make cross court pass to Kyle #genius… 

    Hey I’m not complaining I love the loses I hope they keep piling up it’s the only we will get out of this situation. And hopefully we can land Zeller and then Wiggins the following year.  Keep Losing!!!!

    • Nilanka15

      It has nothing to do with “how” we’re developing players, but “who” we’re developing.  Nobody can turn mediocre players into superstars.  We don’t have any Vince/TMac type talent on this roster.

    • We don’t have a draft pick dumbass. Its to OKC. Stop playing NBA 2k13 and think that your a GM

      • yoloswag

        We’re on pace for a likely top 3 pick, which we would retain. How about getting our facts straight before calling someone a dumbass, dumbass.

        • I know its protected top 3 but thinking how likely are we going to get the #1 pick and then suck again next year and get the #1 pick. Like STFU and let the season play out. Stop dreaming of these stupid scenarios and saying we should tank. I hate people who think they can manage a team themselves and dream up garbage.

  • Scottbbaird

    I’m concerned that Valanciunas is only in the weight room as much as… Leo Raitins.

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  • enlightenment

    Im sorry, Terrence Ross played such amazing defense tonight it was ridiculous. You really have to look beyond someone’s offensive stat line

    • FAQ

      No scoring … no t.h.f. hero … plain & simple.

  • Minks77

    Dick Bavetta has gone from one of the most despised refs IMO to one of the best. These new cats are straight garbage. Not even just vs Toronto but it seems the Star vs non Star and rookie calls are all being called like never before. Not to mention just easy blown calls cuz guys don’t seem to know the rules of the game.

  • NyAlesund

    I am AB’s fan, but now he has to leave as quick as possible. He deserves to be amnestied.

    This game was awful for many reasons:
    1) Lowry is great but he has the tunnel vision. He is the guy that has trust issue and consequently he wants the ball and sometimes forces the situations. I understand him despite all. I am not his fan but now, he is the GUY.
    2) DeRozan doesn’t play on D. He is going to be another Bargnani.
    3) Bargnani is an idiot. He wants to leave but not involve him in right way (stay far behind the arc it doesn’t make sense) is stupid, but more stupid is the insane shots he took. Why he didin’t try different solutions is a mysterious to me.
    4) Casey is coaching really bad. The Kings have big problem but tonight they moved the ball and doing the right thing to win. The Raptors now are playing the worst basketball in the league. Casey is responsible for this. One to one is not paying dividend.

    Tahnkfully we have Pietrus.

    • FAQ

      Casey sent in Bargs in the 4th quarter with only 7 minutes left in the game.

        Smart subbing by Casey… ice Bargs on the bench and then send him in to shoot 3’s.

      • Ghotte

        So he should have sent Bargs in sooner? What ever happened to riding the ‘hot’ hand?

        • FAQ

          Ask Casey… he’s ‘your’ hero coach.

      • The Truth

        Yeah, because he was red hot before he got benched.

        • FAQ

          Casey doesn’t know how to use Bargs because Casey is basically a ‘defensive’ coach and doesn’t have a feel for ‘offense’… so obvious.

    • KJ-B


      • NyAlesund

         …..and bad overall defence. How many times has DD gambled to steal the ball? How many times the opponents had easy shots or worst beat him on driving penetrations? How bad is he a 1vs1 defender?

        Ask Val and the centres how they are happy to cover DD and Lowry ass’ everytime they acted like the sponge defensive fellas.

        We are talking about AB’s defensive issue, forgetting at the same time how poor is the overall D on the arc. The stats this year are really bad.

        I can’t accept two different ways of judging players.

        DD and KL, despite the numbers are playing overall really bad, because their way to do put the team in difficulties expecially when you have players like Bargs and not only him, unable to cover the space quicky.

        In addition watch what happen when KL and DD going to the rim without sense. If they don’t score the opposing team going in transition everytime. And the stats about the fast break point is a useful indicator.

  • NyAlesund

    DeRozan deserves C-. He is not playing on D. And offensively he wasn’t a factor.

  • Kujo

    AB’s fans can’t possibly continue defending this guy.  Things are going to end ugly for him in T.O.  He’s going to get run out of town.  BC has to wake up, and trade this stiff.

    • Canadian Paul

      ESPN is reporting that he was offered to the Lakers for Gasol (along with Calderon and Kleiza), but LA send No.

      Who wants a stretch four, who can’t stretch the defense, can’t defend, can’t rebound, can’t pass, hasn’t dropped to the floor once in his entire career to hustle for a ball, etc., etc.?

      This team is screwed until his contract expires and he goes back to Europe. Hopefully, we continue to suck really hard, because I don’t want to see a late-season surge just to get the fifth pick or something that this franchise is known to do.

      • what the

        If this is true i’m gonna cry

    • FAQ

      What is scary is that Bargs is about the best the Raptors will ever get… ever think of that..??!!!

  • FAQ

    Raptors are so soft down the middle with ED, Amir, Bargs, even JonasV.  The team looks so scrawny… and in need of meat n’ muscle.

    • Phat AlberG

      That’s the problem right there there weak!

  • Valit

    I must have watched a different game or “like” my basketball different than most of you because to me the tipping point in losing the game was the 3rd quarter. I congratulate Mr. Lowry for his “monster”game but I dont remember in a long time to see only 2 people ( who are not superstars by any stretch of imagination) scoring on behalf of a whole team. I know we won the quarter, I admit the defense was good ( mind you it was Sacramento) but in 40 years of watching basketball I never saw a most chaotic, disorganized and selfish offence. There is no movement, no schemes, nothing. They might hire 3 stiffs plus DD and KL for Utah’s game because you know exactly how things will happen. At this point, I really dont care if they trade the whole “old core” ( honestly some of them deserve much better) and bring new blood, but if what I see right now is the new  basketball philosophy moving forward …I say good luck to Toronto Raptors. WE might have better players on paper but we definitely have a worse TEAM with no chemistry whatsoever. I might be wrong ( usually I am) but I think that the organization and the coach changed the identity of the team ( defense, hard work, sharing the ball )  to suit certain players and bring a more palatable brand of “basketball” to attract new people who like tons of offense. Usually, when you draft or acquire a player you try to integrate him in the team philosophy…Raptors again are doing the opposite, changing the philosophy to adapt to new players….just my 5 cents.

    • FAQ

      NO JELL!!!!…. NEVER JELL???

  • Nilanka15

    cesco, since you’re such a fan of plus/minus, would you mind explaining what happened to your friend last night?

    • KJ-B

      The player is called -7..get it right, lol!!!

  • MoCo

    I don’t live in Toronto anymore… can someone tell me when / if the media take Casey to task for his substitutions? Specifically, “why would you take ED out and put in AB, when ED helped changed the game from a 10 point deficit to a lead, and AB wasn’t doing shit?” Taking ED out and putting AB in directly led to this loss. SOMEONE PLEASE ASK THE COACH!

    • Nilanka15

      It’s been asked.  I’m paraphrasing, but Casey has basically said that Bargnani’s his stud, and he has no choice but to trust him (regardless of how well/poor he’s playing).

      • p00ka

        Good lord, there’s enough mud to sling at Bargs and this team that you don’t need to resort to your style of taking shit out of context and inserting it somewhere else.

        Nothing like that was said in reference to that question being posed about last night’s game, which is what MoCo was asking about. When the question was posed last night, his response was:
        “We needed spacing for Kyle to get to the bucket; Andrea would space the
        floor for us. Eddie would have been our next option but with
        (Bargnani’s) three-point shooting, it would space the floor for Kyle to
        get into the paint because he had it going.”

        Now history tells us it didn’t work out, but the circumstances were;
        – ED had just put in 10 minutes straight, with the rookie Robinson having drawn 2 fouls in the last 36 seconds from him and ED looked like he needed at least a breather.
        – During those final 7 minutes Lowry scored 11 of his 34 points, thus making the spacing part of the equation work. Not saying that made up for AB’s continued putrid shooting, but the idea was reasoned and accomplished opening up the space for Lowry to do his thing. If Tyreke doesn’t hit 2 unlikely 3s, the move had a very good chance of working for a win.

        • Nilanka15

          It’s not specific to last night’s game at all.  The same situation played out vs. San Antonio with Bargnani’s infamous 2-19 night (while Davis finished with 15pts/14rebs).

          Nothing taken out of context here, my friend.  Casey is going to ride Bargnani “come hell or high water”.  There’s nothing situational about what we’ve seen so far this season.

          • p00ka

            Not specific to last night’s game? Obviously your response wasn’t, but the post you replied to asked about a question regarding specifically last night’s game.

            “Specifically, “why would you take ED out and put in AB, when ED helped changed the game from a 10 point deficit to a lead”. What part of that is not specific enough for you? MoCo asked for somebody to pose a specific question about last night’s game, which had been posed and the response was what I provided, not what you throw out from some other press quote some other day.

            PS. The same situation of turning a “10 point deficit to a lead”, which is what he was talking about, did not play out in the Spurs game, 

            • MoCo

              Thanks to both guys. I did mean specifically to last night’s game, precisely because I know he’s used the “AB is our horse and we have to ride for better or worse” reasoning before, which Nilanka alluded to. And that’s why I was asking the media to ask him again, since it’s almost like “okay, you gave us this reason before, NOW what is your reason?? It’s now backfired AGAIN, and maybe we gave you the benefit of the doubt the first time, but now, it’s like, come on dude you have no excuse.” Except for the spacing thing (thanks p00ka), which at least answers the question, but still leaves me frustrated. In theory, Casey, it makes sense. In practice? How about playing the guys that gave you the lead? Just maybe it will work out?!?!?!!!!!

              Ah, I’m just frustrated. Anyway, thanks to both guys for replying. So now he’s used two excuses (AB is the horse and AB provides the spacing), but either way, it’s back to thinking AB gives him a better chance to win, when at least twice now (three times?), that has proven incorrect. True insanity… Again, I’m ranting now. Sorry. This is just tough to observe.

              • p00ka

                It’s certainly grating on all of us, ugh.

      • RaptorFan

        Someone throw Casey a life jacket…… he’s going down with AB and BC!! LOL

        The weird thing is i’m actually feeling better about our future……go figure! 

        Cheer up fellow DHRF (Die Hard Raptor Fans)…. we are closer than ever before to seeing actual/meaningful changes around here

        with the following events —

        1) Matt52’s crusade (the last DHRF’s realization of BC’s spins and AB’s flaws)
        2) BC’s horrible team building skills (including 18 mil to LF)
        3) Dwane Casey’s decision to go with Andrea “come hell or high water”
        4) Andrea’s horrible offensive production to go along with his putrid rebounding, hustle and defence (help D especially)
        5) 4-15 team record

        The fat lady is singing sooooo loud!  I wouldnt be surprised if AB is traded or BC is fired within the next 30 days