Toronto Raptors 123 FinalRecap | Box Score 88 Orlando Magic
Ed Davis, PF 34 MIN | 7-11 FG | 4-6 FT | 7 REB | 2 AST | 18 PTS | +18Most of his points came early in the game, and he was key in ballooning the Raptors’ lead early on. Casey showed some confidence in him on the offensive end by running a few plays for him, and he made the most of them with a couple of mid-range jumpers and tough layups. Got shredded by Andrew Nicholson on D at times, but coupled that with some solid work on Nicola Vucevic when he was the only big on the floor for the Raps.
Aaron Gray, C 12 MIN | 0-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 0 PTS | +2I said it’d be hard for him to get knocked out of his everyday “C” grade because my expectations of him were so low, but boy, did he look awful tonight. Some really poor decisions with the ball led to bad shots and bad turnovers, and his plodding D led to numerous open looks for the Orlando bigs. I can forgive the latter, but not the former. Know your limit, play within it.
Jose Calderon, PG 24 MIN | 6-10 FG | 1-1 FT | 3 REB | 10 AST | 15 PTS | +9A couple of careless passes in the 3rd quarter when the Raptors offense became stagnant for a few minutes, but aside from that, a nice return to form after last night’s rough outing. I like how he looked for his own shot to start the game – his early makes from long range set the tone for the Raps’ massive first half.
Mickael Pietrus, SG 22 MIN | 3-6 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 3 AST | 9 PTS | +16He took his shots, and he hit them. When they’re going in, he’s a valuable contributor. Simple as that.
DeMar DeRozan, SG 33 MIN | 7-14 FG | 7-8 FT | 3 REB | 3 AST | 21 PTS | +21The B+ only comes from inconsistency – he forced the ball into the lane during the 3rd quarter and made a few poor decisions that led to the Magic briefly threatening to make the game close. To his credit, he did settle down to start the 4th, making a couple of long-range jumpers to end his night. Was excellent early in the game, playing a varied offensive game and making great decisions with the ball.
Amir Johnson, PF 23 MIN | 2-4 FG | 2-4 FT | 6 REB | 1 AST | 6 PTS | +17Was kind of invisible on the offensive end due to the Raptor shooters going gangbusters, but provided some decent minutes, as far as I can remember. Adequate, but not memorable: B-.
Landry Fields, SF 21 MIN | 3-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 9 REB | 2 AST | 6 PTS | +20His effort on the floor is contagious, and I was yelling at my TV for Casey to put him back in during the Raps’ 3rd quarter swoon. He’s looked excellent since his return to the lineup and should only get better with more reps. One particular sequence in the second where he got two consecutive offensive rebounds as the rest of the Raptors stood and watched stood out in my mind.
Quincy Acy, SF 3 MIN | 1-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 2 PTS | +9Was hoping he’d get a bit more run given this game wasn’t in doubt halfway through the 3rd, but played a solid 3 minutes of garbage time and even had a nice dunk for good measure. Side note: it sure is fun to give out this many “A” grades.
John Lucas, PG 3 MIN | 1-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 3 AST | 3 PTS | +9Played a few minutes of garbage time and was as effective as any of the other Raptors on offense, hitting a 3 and making a couple of nice dishes. He may have been a bit overmatched as a backup PG, but as a 3rd option, he’s one of the best in the business.
Kyle Lowry, PG 23 MIN | 6-12 FG | 2-2 FT | 4 REB | 6 AST | 16 PTS | +21Another game back, another excellent performance for Lowry, who was a distributor early and looked for his own shot to help end the Magic’s 3rd quarter run. As the starters’ began to look stagnant in the 3rd, Casey went to him and Anderson to bring the intensity level back up, and they very quickly righted the ship. We may have seen a bit of Lowry’s “hero” drives tonight, but we also saw a newfound insistence to pass out of the lane, as well. He may not have made perfect decisions, but he’s clearly bought into his role on the team and is quick becoming a difference maker once again.
Alan Anderson, SG 20 MIN | 4-8 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 2 AST | 11 PTS | +13Like the rest of the Raptor gunners, his shots were falling tonight, but it was his defence in particular that’s been standing out these last few games. He’s a very scrappy, consistent defender on the wing and did a great job on Afflalo to help kill the Magic’s 3rd quarter run. If he keeps this up, a starting spot may just be a matter of time.
Terrence Ross, SG 22 MIN | 6-10 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 1 AST | 16 PTS | +20He’s playing with confidence right now, and its very evident in games like this. Bothered JJ Redick all night with his length and his shot looked as good as it has all season. Made one or two poor choices with the ball, but tonight was a tantalizing look at what he could provide the team down the road.

Five Things We Saw

  1. All those 3s going in really made this feel like a vintage Raptors game, didn’t it? The Raps were 9 for 10 at one point during the night and ended up 15 for 27, with 6 players getting in on the action and 5 hitting multiples from beyond the arc. It might not be the most consistent game plan, but when those jump shots are falling, it sure looks pretty, doesn’t it?
  2. The Magic were, for the most part, awful defensively, but a big key in building the Raptor’s massive lead was ball movement. 33 assists on 46 made field goals is an excellent percentage, and for a team that’s seen far too much chucking over the first few months of the season, watching what appeared to be contagious unselfishness was a real breath of fresh air.
  3. Sure, the D might not have been great, particularly at points in the second quarter and early in the 3rd, but hey! We won by 35! I’m not a fan of taking plays off, especially on defence, but if there ever were a game to just ignore that and focus on the positives, this is it.
  4. Three observations about the Magic:
    1) Hedo Turkoglu was awful tonight. He looked like your out-of-shape uncle at a pick-up game.
    2) Andrew Nicholson may be a limited player defensively, but he does have a really nice touch around the basket. I was very impressed by him tonight.
    3) Hedo Turkoglu sucks.
  5. Well, we’ve won 7 of 8, and now have back-to-back road wins and a big ol’ blowout under our belts. After the rough start to end all rough starts, enjoy this while you can – we’ve got a young, athletic, deep team that’s playing really well right now, which is everything we were promised in the offseason, aside from the record. Hope everyone has a happy and healthy New Year, and that we’ll see even more of this in 2013.

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  • Brandon

    This was the old Hedo. Great performance. I never thought I’d see a -37 in 23 minutes of court time. That’s really impressive.

    • Statement


  • De_Hoe_Zan

    Lol I was thinking Hedo deserved a double shalacking for sucking so bad! He does suck. Thans to BC for moving that clown quickly! Landry is starting to look like the player we were hoping for. Yes he is overpaid but we will find out by how much now, and if he can keep it up, his contract doesn’t look so bad if we can move one or more of Kleiza, Calderon, or Bargs off the books. 

    • I was just relieved that Landry hit that wide open jumper in the 4th. He couldn’t hit anything early in the season and maybe the so-called nerve injury was the cause for his shooting struggles.

  • Bob

    your ratings are good, except for Gray.  F is a little harsh – he played ok D but rebounded well.  He is a 3rd string C and played like it.

    • Rido

      Gray gets a B. his job is simple. He bangs the other team’s best big for 8 minutes, burns up his fouls, rebounds, and stays quiet about sitting his ass on the bench for the rest of the night. He is only a disappointment if you want him to do things he can’t . It is like getting angry at AB for not helping on defence: he can’t! His neurons don’t even recognize the need to leave Hos man to stop the ball. Stop asking things of players that they cannot deliver.

  • knickz

    great win! 

    • BCBargnaniJoseCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Against a team missing their top 2 pgs and starting PF but a W is a W no one was or is feeling sorry for the Raptors injuries as you gotta play with who you got no excuses.

      TRoss aka More Bounce 2 The Ounce needs to start!!!!

      He’s far better than DD was as a rookie and the Raptors were a playoff talented team back then.

      What folks may find hard to believe is that TWroten is better (& 2 years younger) than TRoss he’s just buried in Memphis- time will tell.

  • FAQ

    … and this is what the shitholes at reported from (AP):

    ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) DeMar DeRozan scored 21 points and Jose Calderon
    added 15 points and 10 assists, helping the Toronto Raptors to an easy
    123-88 victory over the injury-depleted Orlando Magic on Saturday night. (on hoopshype)

    Boohoo, excuses, excuses… and as usual the US press will ignore our beloved TRaps and I will be surprised if even mention the TRaps on their main webpage!!!


    Yesterday, I posted on the previous topic thread:

    “BIG surprise tonight… believe it.”

    SEE??!!!! I’m 100% right 50% of the time ….LOL

    • Lorenzo

       Get some help, aint no cure for what you got

      • FAQ

        So, you don’t want to be infected with brains, like me?!

        • p00ka

          Anybody worth shit doesn’t want their brains infected, like yours, but someone of good character, and perhaps some meaning to their life, wishes better for creative internet trolls wasting the grey matter they have.

          • FAQ

            Yes yes, pOO…. you are the ‘shit’ with ‘good character’ and great ‘meaning to your life’… and a ‘creative internet troll’ to boot… albeit totally without a sense of humour in your deadly serious ratpor existence… otherwise  UDAMAN..!!!

            • p00ka

              I wasn’t referring to me, but Lorenzo, who has much more class than me, something your “brains” don’t even relate to.

            • p00ka

              PS. regarding what you call “humour”,,,, I have a somewhat twisted sense of humour myself, but am not sick/pathetic enough to get my jollies from playing with kids minds, under multiple personalities, on the internet.

              • FAQ

                ????? “kids minds”??… you mean t.h.f.’s ???

                “multiple personalities”???  why are you so paranoid?  name the personalities to prove your point !!!

                “on the internet”??  are you suggesting I’m all over the internet to get my “jollies”??!!!

                perhaps tis you who is “sick/pathetic”.. ya think?!


                • p00ka


                • FAQ

                  Q.E.D. … and you shouldn’t give yourself a “like” because that confirms my diagnosis … “sick/pathetic”… so obvious.

        • Lorenzo

           You’re delusional, you remind me of some gayass james bond villain

          • FAQ

            So reality is a delusion for you???  As for “gayass”, that must be your specialty .. or as pOOka would say “sick/pathetic”… both of you … so so obvious now!!!!

            • Bad_vlad11

              Ah, it must be reality, mustn’t it? Mr. Goldfinger? It’s all a conspiracy isn’t it?

              Alright the name calling was uncalled for though.

    • tweed8

       Actually, did put us on the first page.

      • tweed8

         opps. It was only a top ten play. Got a little too excited there when I saw Ross and jumped the gun.

  • robertparrish00

    Great to watch a game without fear of blowing a lead.  Thanks Hedo for the terrible performance, made the game even better. -37 wowie

    • j bean

      Makes it sweeter after the bad mouthing he gave the Raptors after he left. 

  • FAQ

    The next 15 games in January, with 10 at home and 5 away, will be crucial in the TRaps push for the playoffs.  JonasV and Bargs should be back.  JonasV will integrate fast but how will Casey utilize Bargs?

    Anybody want to make predictions next 15 games… and justify your prediction?

    • Pbjake

      lets just celebrate and get a good night’s sleep tonight, shall we?

    • Brain Colangelo

      I predict 300 useless and contradictory posts from FAQ (Antoine).

      • FAQ

        Who is ‘Antoine’.. and what’s wrong with sticking your neck out with a forward looking prediction.  What pisses me off is all the dead serious ‘analysts’ who scour the internet with b-ball statistics to cover up their inability to make a holistic judgment. 

        Stat analysts are like historians.. people who think backwards.

        p.s. thanks for admitting that you always and carefully analyze my occasional posting.  It must suck to be mired in the past.

        • Ghotte


          • FAQ

            In Quebec they say “RIRE”..!!!

    • hound

      Sportsnet reported earlier today that Bargs will be traded. Said it was a lock. Sure hope we get something decent back. I think we are trading at the absolute low. Not sure why they wouldn’t bring him off the bench (20 minutes) for a while before trading him. Scared to see what we have to take back in a contract.

      • Jamshid

        You are right. They are reporting that Lowry is being packaged with AB as well.
        “According to a report from ESPN’s Marc Stein, the former No. 1 overall pick is “a lock to be moved” in the New Year. The article, published on Friday, also suggests that point guard Kyle Lowry could be involved in a potential deal along with Bargnani.”

        • Jamshid

          The report is basically saying that it will be too hard to move AB and BC needs to sweeten the deal with Lowry. So this is basically giving up a 1st round pick to just move AB. This is the problem when you over pay just based on talent 😉 Hopefully, DD is not next.

          • Statement

            I personally, would amnesty Bargs before giving up Lowry.  It would get Bargs off of our books (though we would still have to pay him so unlikely MLSE would do that). 

            I really think that the most rational thing to do would be to amnesty Bargs.  Get out from that Vernon Wells contract and deploy your money where it is needed (upgrade at small forward).

            • bangnam bile

              guys like you sound so fucking stupid when you say shit like that. amnesty bargs. ya, let’s just pay the sad sack of shit so that he just can go to another team for nothing or whatever little extra they might want to pay him, like that’s not gonna happen in two heartbeats, and we won’t even bother to try to get a little something back for him. let’s just insult the poor bastard as badly as we can because we’re so maaaad at him for not finding a rhythm on the floor with the new pg when he was still in hog-mode. I got a flash for ya moron, he’s gonna go somewhere else to come off the bench, something he’s never even had a chance to do here, and he’s gonna torch the shit outta some teams, including us I bet. and we gotta watch all this while not getting anything back for him? ya. that’s just fucking brilliant. and by the way, did you ever see the vernon wells contract you dumb pos? you’re comparing what bargs did for the amount of money he gets to what wells did for his stupid fucking contract? like ninety percent of people around here you really should think even a little bit before you open your shit for brains pie hole. 

              • pran

                don’t feed this troll. 

                • bangnam bile

                  says the original troll. 

              • Hound

                Basically on the money, except for the hatred. I am really scared BC will do something stupid with Bargs. I don’t see the logic in declaring he is going to be traded, it only diminishes the return you can get.

                Amnesty is not an option. His contract is not a huge constraint for us. With Jose gone next year, we have enough cap space to sign a FA.

                Please give Bargs a chance off the bench, before we do something stupid.

                • bangnam bile

                  no hatred. just truth. 

              • Statement

                Did I fuck your mother or something?  Are you, in fact, Bargnani’s boyfriend?

                Geez, calm down.

                Simple facts – Bargnani is a horrible all-around player.  Wages of wins recently had an article indicating that Bargnani was the least productive player in their entire database spanning from 1978-2012.  He has a  2-year adjusted plus/minus of -2.79 a negative simple rating, etc., etc. 

                It’s only morons like you who don’t understand the game that think this guy is worth a shit.

                Even the Knicks were unwilling to jettison the Amare albatross for Bargnani.  That should tell you something, you fuckstain. 

                No matter, Bargs will be off this team soon enough.  All it took was 2 coaching changes, the exit of an all-star player and falling from the playoff picture, but finally he’s gone. 

                With him will be dumbasses like you, which I can also cheer for.

                • bangnam bile

                  first, shit for brains, I’m female. and I couldn’t be calmer. second, the only simple fact is that you know less about basketball than I’ve forgotten. 

                • Statement

                  Didn’t dispute any of my points, you dumb shit.

                  Whoa, an elementary school education isn’t what it used to be, eh?

                • bangnam bile

                  to play along with your numbskullery for a moment, anyone who states his opinion as a simple fact obviously doesn’t understand what a fact is. to then back up your opinion by quoting an article bent on proving a particular hypothesis selecting stats that fit the argument is a second hander. also, what you do not know is that nobody from this side wanted anything to do with a’mare, never mind give them bargs for him. we’re all just lucky that fools like you are not in control of the raptors. it might be you who needs to calm down a bit. 

                • Statement

                  Stupid fuck.

                • CJT

                  You two would make interesting angry little babies.

                • boshrawr

                  Assuming she is really a she….

              • p00ka

                what kind of girl talks like that? you must be one ugly ass bitch.

                • p00ka

                  The expression is that “imitation is the sincerest form of flattery”, but a 10 yr old with limited (as in 7 yr old street) vocabulary doesn’t do justice to imitation.

            • Jamshid

              I don’t think BC can afford amnestying AB. That would end BC in Toronto. AB sucks on defence but the guy is averaging 16 Point and 5 rebound and is only 26. He is not a franchise player, he is not the 2nd offensive option in a good team, he is not even third option in a championship team. But he is a good player and can provide mismatches and … You can not just amnesty this guy and keep your job. He is simply over paid !!! Now, can I see BC pull a trade ?? No, I can not. I think with AB’s injury, BC now is unable to move him. 

    • NyAlesund

       Easy. 5 games to prove that AB whether is the problem or not. If he played bad and the team will suffer because of him, he will be traded/amnestied. Otherwise, we will continue with this group. All of this by the end of january.

  • Adriiian

    This game was awesome. I was loving it.
    Let’s go Raps. 

  • FAQ

    Did ya see that camera shot of Demar sitting on the bench and just staring forward with a deadpan face.. thinking… “I’m worth more than $10 million…” ???

  • Destro

    We need his scoring,we need his spacing LMAO !

    • EmarErozan

      We need to play the Magic (or other d league teams) 50 more times!

    • Hound

      Nice to have you back Destro. You will be happy to know that Sportsnet is reporting Bargs will be traded.

    • FAQ

      TRaps have found their new mojo, and somebody who parks on the arc and waits for the ball just doesn’t fit in… unless Casey has a solution for the static Bargs in a dynamic running team, both on offense and defense.

    • BCBargnaniJoseCaseyGots2Go!!!

      123 points and no AB in sight his cheering efforts are even half assed when he’s on the bench…..he’s a negative in the lockerroom and has been ever since Sam was fired- AWright, JJack and others tried to warn us.

      • sukaTori

        are this words written before or after u stop to the bar ?

  • RobertArchibald

    Was at the game tonight. Biggest standout for me was Lowry while on the bench to start the game and 2nd half. He was the biggest cheerleader out there. On his feet for every positive play the Raps made. Agree with a few of his hero plays but he was a solid floor general in the 1st half, picking up where Jose left off. Oh, and Raps fans were waaaaaayyyy louder than Magic fans. Singing of Oh Canada right down to Ole chant in garbage time. Felt good to be a fan tonight.

    • RobertArchinakd

      Also feel I should add that ESPN just showed the Bobcats 18th loss highlights and said they probably won’t win again until they play Toronto. Props to Adnan Virk for jumping in and pointing out they’ve won 7 of 8.

      • Matt52

         Considering that Charlotte won just 7 of 66 games last season and 2 came against Toronto, I think it is a fair statement.

        Raps have been so bad for so long it is going to take winning 7 of 8 to get any sort of respect.

  • BCBargnaniJoseCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Fuck you AB!
    You’re the Raptor fans love 2 hate (Ice Cube voice)

    One, two, three
    everyone say #FireBC

    • NyAlesund

       You too,..from the italian stallion………lol

  • BCBargnaniJoseCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Andrea Bargnani aka King Bargs aka The Pope aka Ill Mago aka Spoiled Brat aka Pasta! aka The Italian Cancer aka Mr 20 Shots For 20 Points aka Mr I’m A PF Not A Center aka Lazy Ass Mofo’er aka Golden Child aka 13 Games

    We are the worst team in the NBA. I am our team’s best player. (Andrea Bargnani voice) 

    The faster he is traded away the better for Raptors basketball…

    • grizzly73

      What GM would offer a usable player for AB at this point? 11 million smackers next year for a guy that everyone knows is a drag on a  team he is supposed to lead? Without him the rest of the crew has instant chemistry and is actually fun to watch again.

      I believe he can’t be amnestied until summer if I understand the rules. Perhaps his injury might mysteriously last til then. I can’t see a ten million dollar player just sitting.

      Losing Lowry to trade him for a so so player is too high a price.

      • BCBargnaniJoseCaseyGots2Go!!!

        That’s on BC he said that he gets offers for AB all the time during his infamous end of season presser ‘enigma of enigmas’ speeches from 2010-11. 

        Amnesty for next season over the summer is logical if he’s still on the roster after the trade deadline…time will tell.

        BC gave up a Lottery pick for Lowry he better not trade him as a throw in with AB (I think that TRoss could be that guy that BC throws in with AB).

        • bangnam bile

          you must figure BC is almost as dumb as your dumb ass. he’s gonna let TRoss go so that he can get rid of bargs. right. its shit like this that makes everything else you say that might actually not be so dumb, really fucking dumb. 

          • CJT

            He has a wonderful ability to turn any story or thread in to a Bargnani bashing.  Quite a talent.

    • sukaTori

      What the hell – the bar is still open ?
      The faster the bar will close the better for RR …

  • Josh

    Just a noteworthy point to make: Lucas returned to the game late after coming from his grandmothers funeral that day. Just for coming back, playing, and hitting a shot, I think he deserved an A+

  • Gregast

    As I’ve been saying for a few weeks now Landry Fields deserves to be the starting small forward – he is a glue guy who will help the Raptors for years to come because of his basketball IQ, his willingness to play team ball and his strong defence.

    • BCBargnaniJoseCaseyGots2Go!!!

      TRoss >> LFields

      • ghotte

        Probably. But when bringing up who is better at what role, the answer isn’t as simple. Are you saying TRoss should start?!

    • Jamshid

      My god, we are back to using these terms that no one can quantify. Glue guy, high IQ, hustle guy and … how about talent ? How about shooting ability? How about a lock down defence ? How about above average rebounder ??
      Fileds is a JOKE at 6.25 a year !!! A BIG JOKE !!! He belong to bench and being the 10-11 guy in the rotation, making 2.5-3 million a year.

      • Jamshid

        If raptors wants to rebuild, they can not afford wasting their CAP Space on guys like Fields. I rather have Alan anderson at 800K or Ross on his rookie salary start before Fields. 

        • Gregast


          AA is the bargain of the decade – thanks goodness the Raps snagged him and let’s hope he’s still got some legs by the end of the season. Thirty-one isn’t old yet in the NBA but you can see old from where AA’s standing.

          Now, I have to ask you if you are personally paying for Landry Fields’ salary? Yes, yes I know you buy tickets etc, etc. but honestly, why should his salary (or AA’s salary) matter so much to us, the fan base.

          LF and AA are the Raptors’ best threes and I’d like to see them share 90% of the floor time. I also believe that AA plays best from the bench. That leaves LF as the starter. Who finishes the game is the more important issue and that should be decided by people with much higher (NBA) IQs than me – or you.

          • Jamshid

            “I have to ask you if you are personally paying for Landry Fields’ salary? ”

            You are asking the wrong question here. It is not about who is paying when you are dealing with a league that has SALARY CAP. Paying extra to LF means you can not spend money on other players and get good players to come to this team. 

            If there was no SALARY CAP then you were RIGHT. Then I would not care if you over pay for a guy like Kapano, Hedo, Amir, LF, AB and  …  Pay them as much as you want.

            But when there is a SALARY CAP, by over paying role players and bench warmers, you are basically limiting yourself to become a real player in the FAs and getting real difference making type players !! 

            BC is not only limiting his own options with over paying for scrubs, but also jeopardizes the future of the franchise and future GMs by giving away these lengthy contracts.

            • Roarque

              BC is forced to pay more because of Toronto’s location and Canadian tax laws.

              BTW is AA one of the scrubs to which you refer?

      • Giselle Ferguson1315

        First of all fields are all those things except a great shooter and I feel alot of his shooting issues were because of his injury. He isnt a “lock down” defender but who is in this league anymore? Its about team defense and he understands that very well and plays very good defense. His contract is more than he deserves no question but dont try to make it look like fields has no talent and is a useless player because he’s not. Since he has come back he’s looked really good to me.

        • Jamshid

          “Since he has come back he’s looked really good to me.”
          I guess we have different standards when it comes to evaluating a player who is making 6.25 per year.
          2 point and 2 rebounds in one game and 6 point and 9 rebound on a blow out game is not that impressive to me. At the same games, Alan Anderson and Ross have out played him while taking much less away from the salary cap. 

        • Gregast

          Kindred spirits – let’s hope Dwane agrees.

  • DigBick

    “Without Bargnani” deserves an MVP vote.

    • bangnam bile

      another obsessed little anti-fanboy repeating everything he’s heard a thousand times and hoping maybe someone will think he’s smart too. shit for brains moron. and I bet your dick is a peanut. 

      • Statement

        Jesus I want to curb-stomp you.

        • bangnam bile

          I’m female. and I’d still kick your ass. 

          • FAQ

            Female now?  Sex change surgery and estrogen injections make miracles nowadays!!!

          • Statement

            Sex change?

            • bangnam bile

              don’t get too excited there mr macho. no sex change so no tips on how to go about it. not from me, anyway. 

              • FAQ


  • NyAlesund

    Easy game.

    Comfortable schedule and restored confidence has been the keys.

    Bargs is very lucky man…………….lol

    When he will come back, maybe, at the first mistake he will be blamed for everything.

    • KaioKev

      Oh absolutely, It’ll be fun to rip him for something like – standing on the 3-pt line and not getting the offensive rebound off his own shot. Haha! It’ll be good times again 🙂

      • Fletchmer

         everybody wants to be a shooter even special ed has been drifting out further and further from the basket looking to shoot. As a result his rebounding rate is going down. He will soon be shooting 3,s and grabbing 5 boards a game.

    • Statement

      Dude, it’s been 7 years.  He had 13 good games in 7 years.  Why do people still support this guy?   There are obvious idiots like bangam bile, but why do other intelligent people support this guy? I feel like I’ve been taking crazy pills

      • NyAlesund

         I am hoping he leaves the NBA to come back to Europe.

      • sukaTori

        please dude don’t take any craziness pills …. needs some memory pills

  • Canadian Paul

    Last 9 games:

    DRTG: 104.7
    ORTG: 113.2

  • p00ka

    7 of 8, the latest a destruction of the opponent, and many brainless little children have nothing to say without falling back on bashing Bargnani. Most don’t know the game, just know how to make themselves feel better by bashing those that can’t respond back. For all his faults, the sick little obsessed buggers are the truly pathetic ones, but worst of all are the ones that go out of their way to purposely troll this shit, under multiple names. Are they feeding idiot juice to the school kids in Toronto now?

    • Canadian Paul

      Without bashing Bargnani, do you think this team still needs him?

      • Hound

        We don’t need him, but the question should be “what is his value, does he add value, etc.” I don’t think he has any trade value, and there is no way they amnesty him. Therefore, his only value to us is his ability to come off the bench, maybe add offence and create mismatches. Some games he doesn’t play at all.

        What people have to get over is his contract and LF’s contract. Neither one is holding us back from getting another player, so we shouldn’t get that excited about it. Only if we can’t sign a guy (because we are up against the cap) or BC makes the coach play certain guys because of their salaries, what they make should not matter to us.

        • sukaTori

          these are the only sensible words written here in the past month

      • FAQ

        Casey and staff have a challenge before them as to how they can utilize Barg’s skill set in the New Ratpors.  Perhaps instead of playing Gray they can insert Bargs and tell him to stay away from the arc.  The problem is you can’t play Bargs for defensive purposes, only offense.. and only from the arc. 

        The Casey Conundrum… Bargnani boob..!!

      • p00ka

        “Need” is one of those words that gets lost in context, and what an individual interprets as “need”, but that being said, this team needs are not any 1,2,3 particular players. The need is in assembling the best assets/talent AVAILABLE, and managing them to keep moving forward, perhaps involving a trade, but only if it makes the team better.

        Should Casey insert AB back into the starting line-up when he returns, out of some sense of “need”? Absolutely not. The team is playing well, and even getting better, so just as Lowry and Fields are starting back off the bench (I expect both to be starters before long), so must AB work his way back to being a valuable contributor, coming off the bench, and only play if he does contribute to winning.

        Being a fan of the team, I hope to hell AB modifies his game to fit what’s going on now, just as Lowry transformed his game (so far), while watching from the sidelines. If he can, he has the skill to raise this team to another level, not by himself, but by fitting his skills into the team game being built upon by this bunch of young’uns.

        • FAQ

          Unfortunately for Bargs, the current style of Ratpor play doesn’t fit his game.  He is not suited to a running, rotating, jumping team.

          Bargnani is a half-court player who must be set up for his soft jump shooting from beyond the arc.  Yes, he can drive to the basket, but he doesn’t seem to know how to take a fall and not injure himself.

          He is not a natural jumper.  His 3-pt jump shot only requires a soft elevation.  When he dribbles and pulls up for a jump shot, you can see how a more aggressive jump adversely affects his shooting arm. 

          If Bargs can’t adapt and contribute to the New Ratpors, he will be only used for his limited talents… or be traded to a team who can better utilize him.

          • NyAlesund

            “Unfortunately for Bargs, the current style of Ratpor play doesn’t fit
            his game.  He is not suited to a running, rotating, jumping team……………..yes
             “Bargnani is a half-court player” …..yes.
            “He is not a natural jumper”……really?
            “he will be only used for his limited talents”……..what?

            The running style is not the best style to win the game. Because down the stretch, the teams able to play in half-court can win.

            AB is not suited for this team, hence trade him and we finish with this story. I can’t understand why we are continuing to blame him for everything.

    • p00ka

      get a life you idiot, stop using my screenname, this isn’t me.

      • p00ka

        Still the best you got, eh. Some day I hope you get some balls, though that might best be second in your needs, to a functioning brain.

  • Raptor

    Now that Lowry is back, you guys are singing his praises. When Bargnani comes back, you guys are going to be out with your pitch forks and torches. 

    • j bean

      Lowry came back to the team with a great attitude even though his starters role was changed to backup. He demonstrated that he has bought into the style of play that was successful while he was injured and I think his appreciation for his teammates grew as he sat watching them win without him. 
      Bargnani has always been favored with major minutes and a starting role no matter how crappy he’s played. If he comes back in a backup role and shows he has bought into a defensive oriented, team first, extra pass concept and most importantly hits his shots he’ll get the same praise as Lowry. If he comes back and plays the same it won’t be pretty.