Our favourite whipping boy versus the best power forward of all-time? Hell yeah!

Second Quarter

8:53 – I’ve just turned my attention away from the Arsenal-United match (suck it, Zarar), and to this Knicks game. Fun fact: Bargnani, Stoudemire, Anthony and Chandler are getting paid a combined 70 million dollars this year. 42-21 Spurs (Barg out, 7 points on 2/6 shooting, 0 rebounds, 0 blocks, -18)

7:00 – Wait, what the hell is on Joey’s face Stoudemire’s head?

5:50 – 6 minutes left in the Arsenal-United game. Still 1-0 ManU. Zarar’s fingernail watch: chewed to the cuticle. United just subbed in one half of LMFAO.

4:57 – Duncan on Bargnani. Bargnani rims out open 18-footer. Action goes the other way, Duncan manhandles Bargs in the post, gets shooting foul. 51-27 Spurs.

3:50 – MWP with back to back baskets. Alternates between mean-mugging face and happy-smile face. He’s a menace.

2:55 – 3 minutes of Fergie time, but no goal for Arsenal. Zarar’s fingernail watch: Spongebob-ian level

1:52 – Parker easily drives past Barg-statue in the paint for the easy score. 59-37 Spurs.

0:28 – Back to back baskets for Bargs! He’s now been subbed out for defense…by Stoudemire. Oh boy.  59-43 Spurs.

0:00 – Spurs lead 61-45 going into the half

Third Quarter

11:28 – Another pair of free throws for Duncan. Knicks going small with Anthony and Bargs in the front-court. You figure out what happened

 9:26 – Bargs draws foul on Diaw, sinks two free throws. Bargs is now the leading scorer with 15 on 5-10 shooting, but is a -19 and has 0 rebounds.

8:18 – Bargs leaves Duncan WIDE OPEN in the paint, Duncan misses 5-foot gimme.

7:46 – Danny Green hits tough turn-around 15-footer from the baseline. Who knew he could do more than feast off Duncan and Parker’s spoonfeeding?

6;50 – Duncan grabs two offensive rebounds, Green scores on backdoor cut with nice up-and-under. 77-52 Spurs.


5:00 – Danny Green cans his 6th three-pointer of the game. He now has 24 points and 10 rebounds. Tim W 1, RR commentors 0 (Spurs up 82-54)

3:30 – Bargs slow to recover in transition, Parker easily weasels past him for a lay-up. 84-54 Spurs. Bargs subbed out.

Fourth Quarter

6:59 – I got bored and made some lunch. Knicks down 37. Bargs hasn’t played at all since he was subbed out.

3:51 – Yeah, Bargs is done for the day. 16 points on 5/10 shooting, 1 rebound, 2 fouls and 1 turnover. Team worst -26 in 26 minutes of action. Glen Grunwald solidifies his status as the best Raptors GM of all time.

0:00 – This game is mercifully over. What was I thinking? Spurs win 120-89.

Final Thoughts

Without Tyson Chandler, this Knicks team is trash. Sure, they have Carmelo, but without Chandler to make up for his defensive liabilities, especially when Melo is at the four, this Knicks defense goes from passable to terrifying. The three-man rotation of Martin-Stoudemire-Bargnani is a broken carousel, and I’m not sure Knicks fans are prepared for the bumpy ride. I really fail to see how this Knicks team is a lock for the playoffs. I have the Hawks, Cavs, Raps (I’m a homer), Pistons, Nets, Bulls, Pacers and Heat over them in the East.

And yeah, Bargs is still terrible. His shooting numbers look alright (especially compared to Gay’s), but everything else is still so awful – the rebounding, the help defense, the intensity. It’s not a surprise to any of us who have watched him through holes in paper bag masks for years, but I think it’s finally dawning on Knicks fans how awful Bargs, and quite frankly, given the NYK fanbases’ reputation, I fear for his safety.

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  • mountio

    And ya .. I caught the Danny Green reference. For the record, thru 6 games this year, 6 ppg, 1 apg, 37.5% shooting (30% from 3). 8.2 PER. (Im assuming this game is not included .. so will help, but still .. hardly impressive)
    RR commenters 1, Tim W/ BobbyLou 0

    • Ya, I’ve been noticing that. Apparently he just got too full of himself being rated so high!

      • RaptorFan

        OR maybe he’s overated = you rated him wayyy too high!

        We all knew it anyways….only you and Lou believed that he was that good….top 6 right? bahahaha

        I told you it would come back to you!….It’s still incredibly early BUT you lost credibility with this ridiculous ranking! Let’s keep an eye on this one 🙂


        • You seem to be taking my writing FAR too personally. And seriously. Maybe I did rate him too high. How does that affect you? Or anyone else? One of the main goals of my articles is to create discussion, which they usually do.

    • DDayLewis

      Today’s game will definite spruce up those numbers, and no one was claiming that Green was the second coming of T-Mac or anything.

      And FWIW, DD is shooting 39%, but he’s shooting much more frequently than Green is.

  • Casey Sherman

    In Andrea’s defense, he played some nice one-on-one defense forcing a Tim Duncan miss when I tuned in. Also his teammates are brutal, especially with Chandler out. Honest question, what would you pay Stoudemire today if he was a free agent? 3 million? A couple thousand? He’s almost been Derrick Rose bad this season

    • DDayLewis

      He still has some utility on the offensive end, but yeah, no higher than 5 million/year.

  • mountio

    btw – gotta love the spurs. Only a couple of weeks into the year, and looks whose atop the standings again. A lot of the new guard so called favourites (clips, rockets) struggling out of the gates, but no probs for SA. Just an amazing franchise all around.

  • blackjitsu

    You sir are a brave soul to have survived that. I enjoy watching the Spurs as much as anyone, but the Knicks were so bad I had to look away. I’m not convinced the Raps are a playoff team, but they’re superior to that hot mess.

    • Without Tyson Chandler, they are easily a lottery team, I think. Hey, at least there’s the summer of 2015, when they’ll have a ton of cap room and they can overspend on other flawed free agents!

      • Casey Sherman

        Not with Melo they aren’t. I mean, they won’t be GOOD at all, but just having Anthony on the team will drag them into the mix.

        • That team is so poorly constructed that even with Carmelo I can see them missing the playoffs. But that’s only if Chandler missed the entire season, which he probably won’t do.

          • Casey Sherman

            I wonder if Kenyon Martin will start playing more

            • Apparently he was on a minute watch, meaning they would only let him play limited minutes, and no back-to-backs, but with Chandler’s injury that’s had to change. He can’t last long playing like that, though.

          • cesco

            Chandler will be out 4-6 weeks . He has a fracture on a small bone in one of his legs which does not require surgery .

            • Chandler also has a history of injuries, so while it’s probable he’ll only miss 4-6 weeks, there’s a possibility it will be longer. Plus, he’s not young, anymore.

    • DDayLewis

      …I got really bored this afternoon. This game didn’t change that

  • cesco

    I don’t believe NY is regretting the trade . I just wonder if the experts here are still calling it a steal by the Raps like Arse did . Time will tell .

    • Dan

      Obviously a steal for the raps. They give away a negative player making a significant amount of money and got 3 picks. Sorry dude by bargs sucks. It’s ok to admit when you’re wrong

      • cesco

        How is Novak doing these days , averaging 1 point per game . I am pulling for the Raps to make the playoffs btw . Obviously I want the Knicks to make the playoffs also .

        • Dan

          It does not matter how Novak is doing because Bargnani hurts teams just by being on the court and makes 11 mil. The fact that Toronto got anything at all for him is a steal. Novak is irrelevant

    • The Raptors would easily be able to move Novak, if they wanted to. The same could not be said for Bargnani. Novak hasn’t played much because of injury, but he would be valuable to just about any team because he actually hits from three consistently.

      I think most teams would rather be paying Steve Novak $3.7 million than Andrea Bargnani $11 million, considering both have the same strengths (outside shooting) and weaknesses (defense, rebounding, really any other area).

      • ad

        Bargs is actually a very strong post defender. Its the help defense, rebounding etc that he is absolutely atrocious at. Also, novak cant score by putting the ball on the floor. Bargs can do that, but yeah, bargs isnt THAT much better and is crazy overpaid.

        • cesco

          They are all crazy overpaid especially if they can shot from all over the floor like he does .

      • cesco

        Check Andrea shot charts again and see if all he does is outside shooting . The Knicks will be extremely happy if he scores in the neighborhood of 18 points per game which he is on the way to achieve shooting close to 50% . Obviously , until Tyson get back they will probably lose more games that they win . They beat Charlotte ( Andrea with 8 rebounds ) without Tyson and so they will beat some other teams also .

        • Isn’t this the same argument you’ve been having for years? I’m sure that if Bargnani was able to score 18 ppg and shoot 50% from the field the Knicks will be happy. But what do you think the chances are of him being able to do that over an entire season? He couldn’t do it in Toronto, despite repeated claims he will.

          And don’t you think the KNicks would also like more than 3 rebounds a game, a little defense and for him NOT to have a negative impact when he’s on the floor, which has not been the case, so far.

          • cesco

            He did it twice in TO , in 10-11 season 21.4 PPG , in 11-12 19.5 PPG . He will need to average at least 33 MPG to achieve that though which is a possibility as Stat and K-mart are at going to be limited as to their minutes ( at PF and center ) .

    • Let’s also wait and see who the Raptors draft with those picks.

  • Bendit

    Hey, whaddya know…Dolan (owner) expects a championship this season he says. And a lot of the entitled Knick fans believe him. I hope we never reach that standard of delusion.

  • Brandon

    Bargnani is a coach and gm-killer, and I’m just waiting for poor Woodson to lose this Knicks gig. If I were running an NBA team I wouldn’t touch Bargnani to throw him overboard. He’s poison.

  • lebroo

    I think Bargnani’s offensive and defensive skills are actually underrated.

    But rebounding… holy hell rebounding. This season, he is a worse rebounder than Nate Robinson, Ty Lawson, Phil Pressey, JJ Barea, and Ish Smith.

    All of those guys are more than a foot shorter than him, and it’s not like, say, JJ Barea is an elite athlete by NBA standards.

  • Nilanka15

    Why does this article even exist?

    • DDayLewis

      I got bored

    • Statement

      It exists so that RR can confirm that cesco is still around.
      Man, cesco is insane with his Bargs-love. Easily the most annoying commenter that I ever ran into.

      • Nilanka15

        I’m still waiting for Pizzaman1 to rise from the dead….

      • cesco

        Stop picking on him , you guys are acting like those kids who find pleasure to bully someone to reassure themselves how big they really are , in fact it is an inferiority complex they have .

        • We’re not picking on him. It’s criticism and it’s pretty warranted, quite frankly. If he were here, commenting, then it would be picking on him and I would agree. He’s not.

          • In your face

            You are a Loser

  • Louvens Remy

    Amar’eh is forever Joey Stoudamire to me now.