Lowry goes down, Jazz fight back but Derozan says “Hold on, we’re going home”.


Toronto Raptors 94 FinalRecap | Box Score 79 Utah Jazz
Amir Johnson, PF Shot Chart 29 MIN | 5-12 FG | 1-3 FT | 11 REB | 2 AST | 1 STL | 2 BLK | 0 TO | 11 PTS | +21Struggled to guard Marvin Williams on the perimeter, but he made up for it by snagging enough boards and scoring enough points (including a key putback in the fourth) to nudge himself into the positive column. The outside pick-and-pops are becoming a problem. Huge blocks on back-to-back possessions late in the fourth to seal the victory.

Terrence Ross, SF Shot Chart 23 MIN | 2-8 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 5 PTS | +5Jumper wasn’t falling, defense wasn’t on point. Lost his minutes to John Salmons and rightfully so. Burks and Hayward gave him trouble. I’d peg it to nothing more than just sophomore inconsistency, but it was not a good night for Trey Rosay

Jonas Valanciunas, C Shot Chart 32 MIN | 8-14 FG | 2-2 FT | 9 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 18 PTS | +19Destroyed Kanter and Gobert in the post time and time again. The team fed him the ball early, and he dominated with his patented “drive to the middle + hook shot”, and finished a nice pick-and-roll with Salmons. His length hindered Kanter on defense. Great game overall.

Kyle Lowry, PG Shot Chart 25 MIN | 1-8 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | -4Went down with a knee injury in the third quarter. I didn’t catch an inciting incident, but obviously this is horrible news. We’ll keep you posted. Shot wasn’t falling while he was in the game. I’ll chalk this one up to injury and keep it at incomplete. Fingers crossed!

DeMar DeRozan, SG Shot Chart 37 MIN | 7-15 FG | 7-7 FT | 4 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 23 PTS | +30With Lowry out, Mr. Fourth Quarter took over once again and helped the Raptors stretch the lead to 10 poiints lead with a mid-range jumper and a corner three. He was calm, collected and confident. His defense on Burks was negligent, but he made up for it on offense. Did a great job creating for his teammates as well. Really positive signs from Demar tonight.

Patrick Patterson, PF Shot Chart 19 MIN | 2-7 FG | 2-2 FT | 4 REB | 2 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 6 PTS | -6Boxscore line isn’t very impressive, but the Raptors would have lost this game had it not been for 2Pat’s energy and ball-movement. On one play in the fourth, Patterson found Salmons wide open on the perimeter for three, grabbed the offensive rebound on the miss, kicked it out, re-posted, drew the double, kicked it out to Salmons for another open three and it went in. His energy carried the team through a brief fourth-quarter lull.

Chuck Hayes, PF Shot Chart 16 MIN | 2-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 4 PTS | -4Solid in the post against Gobert (who is 8 inches taller than Hayes) in the second, but didn’t do much else. He has one role during the game — shut down post-scorers — and with Jonas handling Kanter, his presence wasn’t needed.

John Salmons, SF Shot Chart 32 MIN | 5-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 13 PTS | +5Provided play-making and shot-making off the bench. He got open and spotted up from deep when his teammates found him. Solid ball-handling as always. It’s weird that the Raptors fortunes in tight games often rides on the back of Salmons, but he tends to show up when he’s needed.

Greivis Vasquez, PG Shot Chart 27 MIN | 5-9 FG | 2-2 FT | 3 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 12 PTS | +9Held the fort while Lowry was out. His teardrop was on for once and he didn’t turn the ball over. It’s sad that our expectations for Vasquez have dropped so low, but this ranks as a good performance. Let’s just hope Lowry isn’t out for long.

Dwane Casey
Made the right adjustments when he needed to. After the Jazz cut the Raptors lead down to three mid-way through the fourth, he subbed in Derozan and it paid off. Smart move on his part to force-feed Jonas in the post early on, and he resisted the temptation to dip into the miscellaneous bag of poop on the bench (didn’t play Novak or Stone).

Four Things We Saw

  1. Marvin Williams started at the four and the Raptors had no answer for him. His first-step was too quick for either Amir or Patterson. With the Raptors refusing to go small to match, Williams made hay on the Raps, pouring in 23 points. Smart move by Casey to not budge, but it would be nice if one of our bigs could be at full-health to combat these small lineups.
  2. Raptors got the short-end of the stick with the officials once again. On one key stretch in the fourth, Burks smacked Derozan across the face/neck and there was no call. The play resulted in a turnover and on the ensuing Jazz possession, Williams barreled into Jonas who was going straight up (verticality) and he got two free throws. Not cool, guys. Direct your venom towards: Ken Mauer, Curtis Blair, and Tre Maddox
  3. Alec Burks can play. He’s quick, he’s athletic, he can handle the ball and it looked like he could shoot. If I were Masai Ujiri, I’d try to pry him on the cheap.
  4. For the first time in two seasons, Jonas legitimately looked dominant in the post. Perhaps it was simply because of the fact that Gobert and Kanter are minus defenders, but Jonas just had his way with them time-and-time again. Valanciunas’ development in the post has not always followed a linear trajectory, but he showed real promise tonight.
  5. UPDATE: Looks like Lowry is fine. He says he’s just sore and he’ll play next game against Sacramento (per Josh Lewenberg of TSN)

  • Marshall

    “Miscellaneous bag of poop” LOOOL

    • DDayLewis

      ESPN/Big Brother wants us to keep it clean. That gets…tricky at times.

  • bob

    Great team win. Hopefully Lowry comes back when we vs Sac-town.

  • Adriiian

    DeMar looking more and more like a complete offensive player.
    Hope Kyle is okay.
    LETS GO RAPTORS.

  • IndiRap!!

    Hope Lowry is all right… Follow Raps religiously here in India and he is the heart and soul this season… notwithstanding Demar’s “All Star” year

    • Tee

      Demar is just starting his promising career

      “All Star” is deserved

      • IndiRap

        I hope so…. But… between Lowry and Demar solely on this year’s performances… Lowry is an All star anyday…and btw Demar and Lowry if I had to pick one …hands down Kyle wins it “THIS” year

        • Tee

          You don’t have to pick one dude.

          • IndiRap

            I wish BOTH made it…. Couldn’t agree more…. Cant see any reasons as to why a Joe Johnson would go and Lowry wont….

            • Tee

              agreed.

        • Tanks-a-lot

          It is not the “Currently having a good year showcase of no name players”

          DeRozan has paid his dues and done nothing but improve every year. If Lowry gets his new contract and plays the same next year he will be an All-Star.

      • truth be told

        It’s his 5th year in the league. He’s most likely at least 1/3rd of his way into his NBA career.

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  • Rupert

    Demar Derozan is just straight up clutch maybe not the best last possesion guy but he produces in 4th quarter #Savelowry

  • killa Bob

    Hyped for next game. Lowry, you need to show up!

  • juddy96

    Smart move on his part to force-feed Jonas in the post early on, and he
    resisted the temptation to dip into the miscellaneous bag of poop on the
    bench (didn’t play Novak or Stone).

    That bag of poop line is among the best of the season.

  • Louvens Remy

    @DanielDayLewis “Alec Burks can play. He’s quick, he’s athletic, he can handle the ball and it looked like he could shoot. If I were Masai Ujiri, I’d try to pry him on the cheap.” >>>> Told ya.

    • DDayLewis

      That you did. Props to you Louy on that one. Still not on board with your “Raptors NEED to snag Bazemore” idea though

      • Louvens Remy

        I see some tricky dicky, herky jerky stuff with Bazemore that I like. I know he can’t shoot but, that weird style of play makes me a fan. Love the “miscellaneous bag of poop” line. In Portland, I was so angry at seeing Novak or Stone even touch the basketball. I kinda wish Landry Fields would get in the rotation somehow. He doesn’t need to score. just play D (cover multiple positions) and handle the rock a bit.

        • Mahut

          I’m sorry bro but landry fields makes me want to eat needles

          • Louvens Remy

            Ya. it just seems to me that he can be useful as a Tony Allen type if he can reinvent himself like that.

        • DDayLewis

          I think we need a shot-creating wing who can play defense. Basically, I want John Salmons from tonight to show up consistently.

          • Abused Raptors Fan

            Agreed. It’d be nice to get that player at the deadline. Regardless of how Salmons plays, he’s gone next summer, and unfortunately we can’t waive and resign him at a discount :(

  • ad

    Ugly game but raps took care of business. Hope lowry is ok. Sounds like he is.

  • FLUXLAND

    Mr. Fourth Quarter? wow. You must be kidding. Do you have stats to back this up? I know you are a fan of FACTS.

    • Louvens Remy

      He’s using a bit of hyperbole. Fun, tongue in cheek. Probably because of tonight and Portland.

      • FLUXLAND

        Thanks for the heads up. I hope so. Otherwise…yikes.

    • DDayLewis

      Dawg, chill out. He was big in the fourth. I’m just giving him his due.

      • FLUXLAND

        Giving him his due… riiight. Anyway, hyperbole or not… this is what irks (some) people. Feeding the homers.

        • DDayLewis

          You know what irks most people? Getting up in arms about a throw-away line.

          • FLUXLAND

            Different strokes for different folks, I’m with ya.

          • raptorstand

            That’s the only thing the troll has to bitch about is a throw away line. Trolls arnt happy unless they got something negative to say.

            • FLUXLAND

              There’s plenty to take away from the games. A W in the column doesn’t suddenly erase the “negative” that may have transpired.

              More to the point…the fact he explained it was more in jest than his belief to a “certain closer” role for DD was already covered, yet you carry on with you imaginative “troll” war and your role as some sort of martyr to the “cause”.

              • raptorstand

                bob loblaw bob loblaw, I got no cause I just hate consistent negativity, over and over and over. What a horrible thing for fans of this team to have to read your insipid whining and hating on the players. You are a troll , its not a war just stating facts.

                • FLUXLAND

                  Stating your opinion, that is.

                  As far as the rest of your assessment, seems a little contradictory since you say you “got no cause”, yet you “hate” some flawed perception of yours. And at this point, not even discussing anything basketball related, just soiling the post game comments with your drivel.

                • raptorstand

                  You running down the players and the fans of this site is talking basketball?? Hall of fame material right there . The only thing soiling the post game comments is your shit on my screen. Everybody else here is a fan of the team , you on the other hand are a troll , that comes here to consistently put down our players. I got no problem anyone running down players that play bad, but running down players after they do well is trying to incite and insult. The true definition of a troll.

              • CJT

                yes, a W does erase the negative that happened. At the end of the day the team is judged on their wins and loses. Ultimately the team that wins the most games at the end of the season wins the trophy. So ugly wins are still wins. We still lead the Atlantic and are 3rd in the East and the Lakers are still 21 games back.

                • FLUXLAND

                  I’ve never talked about the Lakers on here or brought them up. (once maybe in the off season during Nash hoopla) So let’s keep that where it is.

                  The “negative” (poor word) that transpired is not magically erased, sorry. Everything else you’re saying is true, but also a completely different discussion from the post game. Not to say I don’t have an opinion on those things, seeing as you state them like something I am ignoring.

                • ItsAboutFun

                  That’s about 10 posts so far, and you haven’t “talked basketball” once. Whatever the hell you are elsewhere, here you’re just a troll.

                • FLUXLAND

                  The Sheriff! Somehow, I am not surprised. Is that 10 handles you have total or more?

            • Rodo

              Ah, the irony of raptorstand calling someone out for being negative! Too funny!

              • raptorstand

                Your point ?

              • raptorstand

                Have I shown myself to be negative towards the basketball team ?

        • raptorstand

          The guy has scored 61 points in the last 2 games , has carried this team when the team was down and then a key player gone. Demar was fing clutch and is a damn good basketball player. Nice to see you here after a win troll.

          • FLUXLAND

            lol.. like i just said.. feeding the homers. 61 pnts in 2 games?!! That’s HOF right there, I hear ya. Carried against the Jazz?…statue at the ACC, you’re thinking? Nice to see you too blind homer.

            • raptorstand

              The guy single handedly brought the team back in the fourth in Portland, calmly took care of business against a shitty team in the fourth quarter tonight, just commenting on some good basketball troll. What Toronto Raptor fans cant be happy about a player on our team doing well? You gotta throw your bull shit hyperbole at us every time our team does well . A troll is a troll is a troll. Just scum.

              • FLUXLAND

                The hyperbole is not on my end at all..I’m not using terms like single handedly and using a tone in your previous comment as if these things are miracles in basketball.

                Not sure why I would need to apologize for perhaps not having the same takeaway from those things as you; while, oddly enough, not commenting on those events at all right now, other than commenting on posters use of a phrase.

                Carry on with your troll crusade…although, can help but feel this is a little stalker-ish on your end. Good look, if that’s what you’re going for.

                • raptorstand

                  Your the victim lolololol The only victims here are the people that have to read your constant negative, rude, insulting put downs of Raptor fans that enjoy being happy after a win.

                • FLUXLAND

                  So, now I am here constantly after wins doing things you describe, yet only an hour ago you were claiming it was nice to see me after a win because I never comment after wins?

                  I gotta tell ya, this is getting really bizzare. Are you sure the fans deserve your outbursts, of whatever it is you have going on?

                • ItsAboutFun

                  Atta boy! Keep that “basketball talk” up.

                • raptorstand

                  I didn’t think you would show after a win, the only time you seem to show is after a loss, so you can spew your negativity on all of us. But instead tonight you thought you had to come to even things out . Being a lakers fan on a losing year , your not a very happy basketball fan , but do your really have to come here and run our team down. We all know you have a great basketball mind and like to keep things in perspective, but let us enjoy our teams good play of late. ty.

                • FLUXLAND

                  Again, a lot of your own perceptions and assumptions up there.

                  But, I don’t see why I would have to somehow curb my impression of the team and my form to appease you.

                  That is what I discuss, the team (after all and unlike you), unless I am drawn into this mindless discussion about “trolls” by the likes of you.

                • raptorstand

                  You don’t have to do shit to appease anyone, Your a hater of our basketball team , you constantly run down our players and the posters on this sight, We as fans havnt had much to cheer about around here in along time. You have come here and derided us for years , laughed at us , told us we don’t know crap. This year our young players are doing well and winning some games , yet you still come here and run the team down. Why don’t you take your great basketball mind and go kick Utahs fans around , or the Bucks , Im sure they will enjoy your great basketball insites as you spit on them.

                • FLUXLAND

                  You are one slanderous cat, guy.

                  You are just going to live with the fact that the rise from brutal to mediocre has not had the same affect on me as it has on you. Tough cookies, life is hard and all that, ol chap.

                  But hey, guess what.. the beauty of it is, you have free will and my handle is pretty obvious, so perhaps is better, for your general demeanor and health, to skip right along. You well know, there are plenty of comments on here that are on the same cloud nine as you.

                • raptorstand

                  Its a bitch taking a smarmy prick down a notch. But I don’t mind.

                • FLUXLAND

                  So, there is an imaginative war going on, for you? Glad you can finally admit it, to yourself. Carry on, soldier.

                • raptorstand

                  Giving the old one finger salute to the negative Nancies of this Raptor war effort. Lt Flux of the tank division , could you give the negative bombs a rest after wins, maybe after 3 losing battles you can come on and tell us how much our Medal of honor all star sucks. At ease Nancy.

                • what the

                  slanderous! “rise from brutal to mediocre” says my Laker friend, our ambassador of basketball wrote a song it goes we started at brutal now we here .have you see our ALLSTAR name DeMAR yet? don’t stick him with ya fork Lt. cause he aint done yet..

                • FLUXLAND

                  That is fact. You may find it slanderous, go nuts. Yet, the ratio of what he was dishing out during every comment about my character to what I said about the team (once in this interaction) is a little lopsided, no? Of course, you wouldn’t see that, with all the focus on how your boy is not everyone’s favourite and how much that hurts your feelings. (Btw, I don’t know what you’re getting at with the Lakers, there’s no need to bring them up… it’s not a discussion that would end well for you if you want to compare the teams, not that his is the place to do that)

                • raptorstand

                  Is it fact ? or is it your opinion ?

                • FLUXLAND

                  4-12 to 26 -22…while having the easiest sched in the L since about 0.500. You tell me.

                • raptorstand

                  I dont have to tell you crap, your the troll with all the answers. We suck no matter what happens , no matter how many wins , it just doesn’t matter for you, No matter how much improvement , no matter, we have always been mediocre we are mediocre now and we will be mediocre in the future. We get how you think troll, I know how much it makes you happy to run the team and the players down and I should just let you be, but I’m fing sick of it. Go kick another losing team around , this one has had enough of your negativity.

                • FLUXLAND

                  Now you are just getting repetitive and I am not here for your entertainment or to satisfy your stalker fetish.

                  Your delusions and perceptions were covered this morning, already. I can see the fact you cannot ignore my comments is difficult for you and as much as I am flattered by your attention, you will (for the last time) going to have to deal with them.

                  In the meantime, there is no need for me to do anything simply because I don’t share you enjoyment of “improvement” from brutal to mediocre.

                  And trust me, everyone has had enough of your pointless comments, for a very long time now. No one cares what you are sick of, absolutley no one. You would have to pay a mental health professional to pretend to care for what you are sick of.

                • raptorstand

                  The question is why are you here? I’m here to hang out and comment on the team I root for, your here to run our team down. I’m not sure what your idea is about anything on this team all you do is run it down. I would love to read what you think on how to improve My team. You know basketball positive constructive criticizem is welcome, Being a negative ahole is not. My pointless comments will be here for a very long time my negative troll friend but the days of you getting unanswered when you trollishy run down our players has ended. My psychiatrist says its healthy to stand and root for your hometown team. Just following doctors orders. I have his number ………….

                • FLUXLAND

                  “The question is why are you here?” – I’m here to hang out and comment on the team I root for. Funny how that works.

                  “your here to run our team down/all you do is run it down/trollishy run down our players” (btw, it is you’re ..and you’re welcome!) – more of your hysteria? But, agreed our team.

                  “how to improve My team” – these things are pretty obvious,no? Expanding energy playing fantasy GM without any reasonable way to proof the outcome of the suggestions and rendering the argument to some number crunching exercise, monetary or statistical? Bleh. Let’s focus on the known. Or are you having difficulty countering what you see as trolling about the known, with only hyperbole opinion, at best?

                  “You know basketball positive constructive *criticizem* is welcome, Being a negative ahole is not” – I know?! What, exactly? Some rule you just came up with and I am to oblige by based on your flawed perception and judgments? After we established there is no need for me to change my form and you could exercise your free will? Is this not more a matter of you being incapable to do so? Should you perhaps look inward, before expressing such distasteful concern for me? I dunno, I’m just throwing this out there, trying to help you out, you know?

                  You should look into getting a new guy, I think. He is telling you want to hear about the team, but then again, you do pay him to play by your rules. The same thing you are asking me to do, except I don’t do well with that sort of dictator like direction. Maybe you are on the wrong forum, completely?

                • raptorstand

                  No buddy , you can be a flaming ahole and have your gratification of free willing your negativity on to all of our computer screens. Many people have died for your right to do that . If you are what you say you are a fan of this team how about some positivity when you are shoveling your horse shit down our throats, little honey with the excretment. Nice rant on the your crap, I aint fing changing so you can throw that little snide out the window. You have been a tanker on here for a long time buddy give it up , not happening. This is a pretty good team , maybe if you took a look you might notice.

                • FLUXLAND

                  So we are just going to keep doing this? You demanding I type what you like and me telling you to shove it?

                  Do you honestly believe you asking me to change my form, will compel me to do so? Are you really that delusional? Do you really think I give a rats ass that you think think this is a “good team”?

                  Please, spare everyone your drivel. Move on, son.

                • raptorstand

                  No man you can be negative all you want , just don’t see your point other then to be an ahole. The team is good , undeniable. Go kick your dog,

                • FLUXLAND

                  Don’t worry about what I am doing, stay in your f lane and keep yourself in check.

                  “Good” by your definition and undeniable in your pea brain mind.

                  Go choke on a bag of nails.

        • onemanweave

          Flux, You are a gamer. You’ve taken more shots from this year’s Raps than Rocky did in all 14 movies and you’re still in there punching . Pretty weak and feeble, but still throwing them. Cheer up, man, maybe they’ll start to lose a lot and you’ll become relevant or even interesting. Compared to you, Oakley was a sissy.

      • What the

        dear mr Lewis the Allstar name Demar does not need you nor Tim W. to pump him up with your lies (mr 4th quater) now you have our Lakers friend LT. flux all upset .don’t forget Flux knows what mr 4th quarter should look like, he has been watching Kobe years

    • DDayLewis

      To your point, Derozan hasn’t performed well in the aggregate in clutch situations. According to 82games.com, Derozan’s clutch-time eFG% is a putrid 33% and 83% of his shots are jumpers. I was just illustrating that he was good today.

      http://www.82games.com/1314/13TOR6.HTM

      • FLUXLAND

        Too much for me.. glad you’re aware of the FACTS situation. It is your forte, after all.

      • Ceasar

        Based on watching the games he looks pretty clutch.

        • DDayLewis

          Probably because he takes so many shots in the clutch. Not to say that he definitely “is”, or “isn’t” clutch, or even if if “clutch” exists, but Derozan has the ability to create his own shot, which serves him well down the stretch.

          • CJT

            I always find it interesting to watch how fans react to plays like the last one in Portland. DD was unbelievable in that 4th quarter and again tonight does that make him Mr. 4th quarter, well tonight it does. He put the team on his back offensively and sealed a precarious win on the road. He played through no calls without the his historically whiny give up demeanour. I know that you can’t and shouldn’t ignore the past, but I think it is really fun to watch a group of players decide that all the historically negative poop, is not what the identity of this team will be going forward. They played good team defense and help D. Fun game.

  • Big Man 10

    Demar Derozan, 7-15, 2-3, 7-7, 4 reb 4 ast 1 stl 0 blk, 0 turnovers, 23 points, team best plus 23
    Gordon Hayward, 3-11, 0-5, 2-2, 5 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl 1 blk, 3 turnovers, 8 points, team worst minus 27

    Hey lets give Hayward a 4 year deal at 13 million a year and trade Demar for a late first round pick and two second round picks. # Realgm logic

    • JayTeam

      I’ve never suggested trading DD and I hope he’s a big part of our future. But using a one game sample to compare players is pretty bad logic also.

      • GM

        Like they used a one-game sample to say Alec Burks can play?

    • morgan c

      Haha, not to mention let’s invite Hayward to Team USA development camp, but not DeMar… SMH!

  • Louvens Remy

    DeRozan is really starting to put things together. Once he makes quicker decisions to go to the hoop and not settle for 3 poop shots a half.

  • Hassan Mehmood Khan

    bring on rudy and the kings

  • Ronda

    Taking care of business feels pretty damn good

  • http://www.facebook.com/asifyouknow Al Asifyouknow

    Great job by Sacramento North Coast and great job by Vaz , he did what a back-up is supposed to do… keep the ship afloat !…Some folks are so worry about their fantasy league that they forget what the game is all about…oh well…

  • Louvens Remy

    Gravy Vasquez will be fine if Kyle is out a game or two. This might be exactly what he needs in order to get a bit more comfortable. Vasquez can run a team. its been proven. I am not worried.

    • Abused Raptors Fan

      His numbers did improve while DD was down and he got more PT/responsibility

  • DDayLewis

    Phew! Looks like Lowry is fine, just a little sore.

    https://twitter.com/JLew1050/status/430563756100182016

    • Rickery

      Thank god now we can all sleep happily tonight

    • Age

      Lowry banged it in the Portland game when he went knee to knee on a drive.

      • GLF

        I don’t think so just because Kyle said something like it has been something that has been bothering him for about a week now. Maybe I read that wrong.

        • GM

          Yes, he did say that. Said it had been bothering him for about a week. You never know in the NBA. Players and teams lie all the time. As a player, you don’t want it to take away from a future contract. For a team, you don’t want the next opponent who’s going to be playing.

      • tonious35

        Thought it all started vs. The clippers on that Sunday…three top guns were injury threats; demar (ankle), 2Pat (the nose), Lowry (knee on knee) with Griff. Can we go into staples and stone cold stun’ these sons of bitches for pay back?

  • Hound

    I like this team! I like this team! At the game tonight and it was great to have the feeling like we aren’t going to lose. Haven’t had that feeling for a long time. Utah knew they were going to lose and the Raps knew they were going to win. That is why I was so much against the Tank. Utah has a losers mentality now. You can see it on their faces, their body language and in the fans. It could take years to grow out of.

    • tonious35

      Jerry Sloan retired at the right time…

  • DDayLewis

    Lol the Knicks lost to Milwaukee

    • raptorstand

      Did Bargs play?

      • DDayLewis

        Nah he’s injured. Shumpert, THJ and Felton were a combined 5 of 24 from the field. And they wouldn’t trade those guys for Lowry? Cool move, Dolan!

        • Chewwy No Matthew

          Dolan must be just banging his head against the wall every night for pulling the plug on that trade. Wow! If this doesn’t force him to stay out of deals I don’t know what will. Oh well, I’m just glad it didn’t happen and hopefully Lowry resigns here in the off season

        • Bryan Colangelo

          It really does boggle the mind doesn’t it? I mean, I wouldn’t have called Lowry playing at an All-Star level the past month, but given what’s at stake for the Knicks …

      • GM

        No, he didn’t play. How does that fit the narrative now?

        • raptorstand

          I think that makes them 4-1 since Bargs went down. I just remember Marv Albert commenting at the end of the Last Knicks game they were 4-0 without Bargs. I don’t know what Bargs went down with but the Knicks looked like the Raptors last year after Bargs got injured. The defense got better the offence flowed.

  • Shadow Of Christ

    I don’t understand how Raptors Republic hates on Vasquez so much, it kills me

    • GLF

      Yea he really isn’t THAT bad. Like there aren’t many back ups point guards if any playing better than him. Also he’s isn’t 100% you can see that. This is no where near the player he was in New Orleans. The best part about tonight is he hit almost all if not all his floaters, which hopefully is a good sign for the future. People from Sac said he was almost automatic with the floater so I don’t know what happened when he got here.

      • Abused Raptors Fan

        There are plenty of backup PGs playing a lot better than Vasquez… Collison with the Clippers? Jackson with OKC? Both the guys with the Rockets (Lin and Brooks)? JJ Barea?

        • Jose

          Nothing against Vaz, he is good for 10-15 minute stretches (if the lead is 10+ points). He is just step slow for point guard, and is pretty predictable with his ball movement. If Lowry gets seriously injured, this team is done IMO.

          • asifyouknow

            Where are you coaching? They should hire you in Toronto…lol

    • DDayLewis

      Nobody “hates” on Vasquez. Dude is shooting 35% from the field. We give him the flack he deserves.

      • GM

        Yeah, I’d agree that ‘hate’ is the right word. There are better ways to describe dispassionately a player who is playing below expectations than is seen here. But that’s the way it goes in Raptorland: If there are two good point guards, everyone picks sides and a controversy is born; if one’s struggling, he sucks. Hey, he’s a backup for a reason. He’s doing just fine.

        • asifyouknow

          Wow a Toronto fan who actually has a level head comment.
          Vaz is beginning to get back to normal. he may not be a starter in a top team but he is a hell of a smart back-up and can run a team, his numbers will be about 10 to 14 pts. and 6 -7 assist and 3-4 rebounds in 24 minutes. he will enjoy a good long career in the NBA while most of us sit here in front of a computer living our dream of wishing we could be (according to many of you) a bad back-up in the NBA.
          Lucky to have the guy, unfortunately many folks don’t know enough about basketball to understand that this guys is helping you -somehow- every night, ask the coach I bet they know.
          Good comment Mr. GM

      • asifyouknow

        Hey can I join your fantasy league…lol

      • http://www.facebook.com/asifyouknow Al Asifyouknow
    • asifyouknow

      They don’t get basketball, all they are worried about is how the players affect their fantasy league stats, so if they get 2 or 3 players for in this team and they score millions of points but the Rap lose every game they would not care because they got the stats…believe me my friend most of those folks who hate are 12 year olds.. just saying…

  • Rev

    The more I watch DD play. The more I think trade him is bad idea.

    • Guest

      Lol I agree with you but there are some that have the exact opposite thought. Trade him while his values high…

    • What the

      don’t let mr.Lewis (it ain’t pretty) hear you say that ,we know how much he loves the Allstar name DeMar

      • DDayLewis
        • CJT

          Where do you go if the kittens don’t work? I mean they’re kittens right? They have to work.

          • DDayLewis

            You’d think so, but “what the” is one bitter litter

            • What the

              only when you and captain Tim W and that Lakers die hard fan Lt. Fluxland from the tank division start talking pooh about the Allstar name DeMar

              • DDayLewis

                So I gave him an A, praised him for his performance, and you’re still here to troll. Don’t lump me in with those guys.

              • CJT

                Come on dude, he sent you a pail of kittens. How could he talk poop about Demar. You need to stop living in the past and embrace the positivity that is DDayLewis. Come back to the bright side sir.

  • Will

    Good game tonight.

    Was Hansbrough injured again? He was in uniform. I hope he gets fully healthy and makes it back in Casey’s rotation.

    • DDayLewis

      Wasn’t really needed so Casey gave him the rest. It’ll be hard for him to find minutes. Jonas, Amir, 2Pat and Hayes all ahead of him ATM

      • GLF

        I really don’t think he should be behind Hayes in the rotation but I guess that’s just me.

        • Ghotte

          Hayes is a backup center; Hansbrough is a PF. Neither is behind the other. Amir is PF/C while 2Pat is a PF

      • Ghotte

        He’ll be needed against the bruisers of Sacto. Especially Cousins who will be a problem. Our guards should torch their guards but the front line is a very different matter.

      • Will

        I can see that Patterson is the deserved first big off the bench but Hansbrough should be on par if not ahead of Hayes. He gives a lot more hustle and offensive production. His only setback is that he’s not quite big enough to handle some opposing bigs.

        • CJT

          While I agree that TH does offer a more varied skill set, they play different positions.
          Also it is complete nonsense to suggest that Hayes doesn’t offer up the same level of hustle and effort and is considerably stronger and a very good defensive anchor.

  • JRedmond14

    Good Raps win tonight despite it being 8 (Utah and Refs) vs 5 (Raps) all night long

  • Ghotte

    Be honest: Who thought Kanter was a better pick than JV on draft night? Fess up!

    I recall that dude was dead set against getting picked by the Raptors. Didn’t he snub the pre-Draft workout?

  • Tanks-a-lot

    I want to see DeRozan bringing up the ball from time to time so that he can get some ‘handles under pressure’ experience.

    • mountio

      bad idea. Thats not the way to develop your handles .. under NBA pressure having to bring the ball up the length of the court

  • The Red Fury

    Tross – he seems to be getting a steal every game just by anticipating passes and stepping into the lanes. I love it.

    Demar – this town needs to be showing dd way more love. This is a guy who said at the beginning of the season, how bad he wants them to be in the playoffs and how tired he is of losing. Not just for himself but for the city. This guy is such a role-model. And proves how hard work pays off. I am absolutely floored when hearing that people believe Tross ceiling is higher than Demar. Demar is an all-star and comes back every off season with something new added to his game. Learning the iq of the game is not easy. Demar has shown he is understanding more and more. I hope Tross gets there but not all players can do it.

    Jonas – wow. Love that he is understanding the nba game and taking to refs about calls. Challenging them in a way that you can tell he is knowledgeable. Bright bright future for him. 21. Just wow.

    • raptorstand

      Great post fury , it is really fun watching this team play this year, so many plot lines.

    • tweed8

      I’ve been a DeMar fan since day one but, I think people just feel TRoss has the higher ceiling because of the flashes of brilliance we’ve seen. His IQ for the game is obvious, he’s got better handles and when his defensive is really switched on, it is really fun to watch him shutdown an opponent.
      No insult to DeMar at all, at 24 I am sure there is more to come …his turn around jumper is looking like so much butter! He’s also been working with Ross so, if the kid flourishes, I am sure he won’t have any complaints.

  • Val Jasme

    let’s be positive guys..lowry have to rest and it’s time for gravy vasquez to shine.

  • rapierraptor

    A real sign of improving maturity to put this team away after two hard fought games and the superbowl.

  • james vincent

    way too harsh on terrence ross while being too generous with patrick patterson….he played good defense on gordon hayward (limiting him to 3-11 shooting and 8 points)

  • Andre anglais

    just a quick point re: Val – he made some nice passes out of the post that are indicative of his maturation. I like what I saw.

  • george resko

    Demar is not mr fourth quarter he crumbles under pressure he only closes games out against weak opponents like utah