Phoenix Suns 121 Final
Recap | Box Score
113 Toronto Raptors
Amir Johnson, PF Shot Chart 33 MIN | 9-12 FG | 2-4 FT | 2 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 20 PTS | +5Channing Frye provided some matchup problems with perimeter defense for Amir. Amir’s game is missing the explosiveness that it had before a series of injuries pulled Amir closer to the ground. Miles Plumlee blocking your dunk attempt is not something you want to read about having happened to you. Credit to Amir for adjusting quickly though, scoring with a nifty mid-air adjustment the next time he took it to Plumlee.

Terrence Ross, SF Shot Chart 32 MIN | 7-13 FG | 4-4 FT | 1 REB | 2 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 22 PTS | -12Terrence’s awesome performance was regularly interrupted by bad turnovers and momentary defensive lapses. If that’s the worst you can say about a 21-year old in his second year, you’re in great shape. He continued to creep out of his perimeter shell and take the ball to the basket a little. His hesitance is still holding back what feels like could be a highlight play every time he goes to the bucket.

Jonas Valanciunas, C Shot Chart 32 MIN | 7-11 FG | 1-1 FT | 5 REB | 1 AST | 2 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 15 PTS | -2Jonas was unstoppable in the first quarter, so naturally the team didn’t give him another offensive touch for the next 12 minutes. Jonas is still working on his defensive timing and focus, as Plumlee twice blew by him when he got caught looking at what the perimeter players were doing. But his confidence is quickly bringing out his talented offensive game. NBA defense takes a lot longer to get the hang of than offence, especially for big men. Patience children, Jonas is right on pace.

Kyle Lowry, PG Shot Chart 40 MIN | 9-19 FG | 8-9 FT | 5 REB | 13 AST | 2 STL | 1 BLK | 3 TO | 28 PTS | +5You know by now that whenever the Raptors are down coming out of halftime, Lowry is going to take over the game in the 3rd quarter. His will and intensity is a force of nature. The Raptors couldn’t slow down the Suns enough on defense to make it matter though. It turns out that the secret to slowing down Kyle Lowry is a knee to the face of a downed opponent. How, by the way, is something that gets you disqualified from a mixed martial arts fight not even a foul in the NBA?

DeMar DeRozan, SG Shot Chart 39 MIN | 6-16 FG | 5-5 FT | 4 REB | 7 AST | 4 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 17 PTS | 0DeMar is incredibly frustrating to watch when he isn’t knocking down those ill-advised, long pull-up twos. Getting to the rim and the free throw line needs to be the constant emphasis of DeRozan’s offensive game. DeMar got a technical foul for kicking the ball away from the referee, because he’s a nine-year old. Not the best moment of what was definitely not his best game.

Tyler Hansbrough, PF Shot Chart 9 MIN | 1-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | -15Hasbrough struggled to be a factor in his limited minutes, which could really be said about the entire Raptor’s bench unit.

Chuck Hayes, PF Shot Chart 4 MIN | 1-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -4Am I the only one who feels like maybe the ability to jump would be helpful for a massively undersized centre?

John Salmons, SF Shot Chart 18 MIN | 1-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -20John Salmons’ legs have looked older and older as the season has carried on and his jumper has looked increasingly flat. He’s found ways to keep contributing though, such as a key steal under the basket that lead to the Raptor’s late 4th quarter push.

Steve Novak, SF Shot Chart 13 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 3 PTS | -3So, pairing Novak with Chuck Hayes in the frontcourt against two mobile, talented bigs on the other side is going to have some damning defensive consequences. Novak knocked down the spot-up shots he needed to, but he has to add at least one more thing he can bring to the court if he wants to be anything more than an occasional hot hand.

Greivis Vasquez, PG Shot Chart 19 MIN | 0-5 FG | 2-2 FT | 3 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | +6General Greivis is getting a little too carried away with his own shot as of late. Vasquez can shoot, but he is not in this league because he’s a shooter. His jumper is inconsistent. But the creativity, control and size that he utilizes in the pick-and-roll game is what makes him so valuable. He would be well served to remember that.

Dwane Casey
It’s hard for Casey to come up with lineup solutions when his limited bench choices aren’t playing well. All he could do was play the starters and hope for the best. He held out as long as he could before going small against the Suns spread attack for as long as he could, which I credit him for, but not having Terrence Ross as part of crunch time small ball is a choice that leaves me scratching my head. His yelling at the refs game was on point though.

Four Things We Saw

  1. The referee’s gave the game a troubling them vs. us vs. us mentality for the Raps. The ref’s were told that the home whistle in Toronto goes to the team wearing purple, unfortunately that note came either 5 years too late or 1 year too soon.
  2. High pace games make it clear how much this Raptor’s team relies on defense to get it’s wins. They really struggle to match a team shot for shot in a run and gun style.
  3. PJ Tucker came off of his suspension for attacking Blake Griffin and hit Kyle Lowry with a series of (probably) incidental Muay Thai knees to the face.
  4. Leo Rautins has stepped up his commentary, and it’s well accentuated by the fact that it means we’re not hearing Jack Armstrong. Not hearing Jack Armstrong is a big win. Hearing relevant, insightful commentary in his absence feels like found money.
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  • Aaron

    WHY oh WHY was John Salmons in this game over Fields? Salmons cant hit a 3 to save his life anymore and doesnt move around. Defence? Guess what Fields is a good defender as well oh and he provides good rebounding (something they DESPERATELY needed) but whatever thats not my main issue. WHY didnt V touch the ball at all in the second? Of course he is gunna miss his first shot in the 3rd because he cooled off. Casey NEEDS to find a way to get him open for postups and stress that he needs the ball. Grevis was awful in this game but whatever he was due for a bad game sometime. Demar played awful and to be honest deserved an F. Why is it when V makes a mistake he gets pulled for the next 20 mins? But when demar makes 5 in a row (Pj Tucker kept getting open due to lack of awareness from demar) he doesnt get pulled? Need to hold everyone accountable. Tough game but it was to be expected.

    • Wes mantooth

      I completely agree with you. It makes no sense that JV doesn’t get touches. He was dominating like a 90s center in the first. The guy shoots over 50% so the fact that he is not the first or even th arcing option when he has it going is asinine asiten asitwenty! ( first take) instead we allow demar to try to get it going from twenty feet.
      Not having JV out there in the fourth when we need rebounds is crazy. It’s gonna get Lowry hurt.
      Casey’s hard on for salmons is unwarranted and harmful! He needs to go to fields ASAP!
      And the Novak at the 4 debacle almost hurt us against Memphis and killed us today.
      Casey gets an F minus.

      • bobmasa

        Hope Casey will listern to us, he has to give players a chance i am started getting frustrated now.

    • mountio

      Vets dont need to be held accountable. Thats the Casey way …

    • bobmasa

      I always questions myself whay Casy dosnt give chance to Fields or De Colo instead of Salmons? Whats wrong with this coach? Dwen Casey always dosnt know how to rotate his bench he deserve F and he has to go next seadon.

    • FREEJV

      also during one stretch tucker snuck in and grabbed 2 offensive rebounds in 2 possesions while demar was just watching the ball and he went to the line both times 4/4.

    • Roarque

      Landry has lost the confidence of his coach that’s a fact. Casey has so much to worry about right now that several of the bench guys are being tossed onto the scrap heap. Must suck to be Landry Fields, watching your buddy Novak getting 2Pat’s minutes while you’re ignored for the SF back up. I do have to mention though that Casey is being considered for Coach of the Year honours as we chat.

  • DandB

    Nothing has changed from Demar’s game when he was earning the A+s knocking down the mid range Js. Now other teams are realizing that you just need to get up on him because he doesn’t have the handles to dribble past anybody,

    • Abused Raptors Fan

      He did find a way to contribute tonight, getting to the line, dishing out 7 assists, and getting 4 rebounds and 4 STEALS

  • jacobdr4

    I think i speak for 90% of raptors fan when i say leo was unbearable today and would rather listen to jack 1000 times over.

    • Aaron

      I agree. What i like about Jack is he will call it as he see’s it unlike leo who will lick the opposing team’s nuts with gravy on how good they are playing.

      • sleepz

        Why is it bad to recognize opposing players with respect?

        I watch many different broadcasts and many of the best announcers call it objectively from both sides. Leo is definitely not one of the best broadcasters and he can be very annoying but acknowledging your opponent is not bad. The Suns offence looked like a force this afternoon, which can’t be ignored.

    • johng_3

      Also I like hearing Jack say Bacardi

      • Aaron


      • consmap

        Git that gahbidge outta here!!!!

        …As well as the refs, PJ Tucker’s MMA prowess, and Gerald Green’s cocky face.

    • mike, prague

      The other 10% was watching the Suns broadcasters.

      • Aaron

        Who by the way said both Novak and Grevis were the worst defenders at there positions. So apparantly we have the 2 worst defenders in the entire league?

        • mike, prague

          They sucked, but not Leo sucked.

        • DDayLewis

          Maybe not the worst, but they’re definitely in the bottom 10% at their respective positions in terms of defense.

          • asifyouknow

            Who was on Drag in the first quarter ? Mickey Mouse? or was it Dudley Do-Right of the mounted police?

          • asifyouknow

            Just got done watching the replay, let me be clear on this since you folks are all about THE DEFENSE :
            Lowry and Ross got their asses pounded on defense. Period ! Yet I have seen ZERO comments on that horrific performance by those two.

            • Aaron

              Your right they like the rest of the team tonight sucked on defence. But both of them made up for it on the other end. GV DiD not tonight.

        • Antoine Rose

          Did you hear the shit they said about Derozan? They were like Derozan is basically a fluke scorer .. they called ross a athlete and thats all. The only player that gets real hype is Jonas. The American media loves the man.

    • redrap

      jacobdr4: I am SO in that 90% you speak of.

      As a rule, I look to see if sportsnet is doing it or if it’s tsn, hoping – always hoping – that it’s Jack (tsn) and NOT Leo. Today, Leo was especially unbearable. Like nails through my skull.

    • noname

      Amen Brother.

    • plaid coast

      maybe that last note was a joke. i mean i can’t think of a time when Leo has ever said anything insightful. leo begins every sentence with “what the raptors need to do”… as if he thinks we’re all listening because we think he is some kind of amazing teacher. the worst is when we play dallas/milwaukee and Leo takes the opportunity to shit on Sam Dalembert.

    • Mexiballer

      Hes unbearable every day.

  • Musik

    As bad as the refereeing was one sided in this game the raptors played zero defense. The suns did whatever they wanted. I think the raptors deserved to lose this game.

  • Rupert

    Jack is a much better announcer them leo hes more enthusiastic and revved up. Played like crap but we will make it up on friday when we upset okc

    • why

      I prefer jack however two things I personally dislike about his announcing
      1) he will never ever crticize casey, even when he makes highly questionable decisions like pairing hayes, novak, salmons, and vasquez. forget that you used to be a coach – a coach deserves criticism when warranted.
      2) he is too general in his criticisms. e.g. when he says things “the raps were slow getting back” I want to know who the fuck was too slow or who didn’t box out or who didn’t communicate on defense.
      Leo alays comes across as a know-it-all

  • Ogi

    T-Ross is 23 not 21

  • mountio

    Thats as bad as weve played on D in a long time. Seemed like everyone was out to lunch and we were just giving up open 3s like it was our job.
    Id like to complain about why the hell we went away (AGAIN) from our two best players to start the game. JV was great and Ross was playing very well too. What does Casey do … a) sit them for too long and then b) when they get back in, dont give them the touches. It seems like Ross is putting up awesome 1st Qs, only to get iced by Casey. I dont get it. JV was exact same today.
    Having said all of this, our D was horrible, so dont think we were gonna win this one either way. Casey needs to fix that first

    • ItsAboutFun

      Fix what exactly? You feel Casey threw out the defense that he’s been teaching them and told them to go out and lollygag? I know just about everybody here spend half their days trying to ram sticks in every Casey orifice, but it’s actually on the players sometimes.

      • mountio

        Dont disagree that its on the players too. As I said to open my comment “seems like everyone was out to lunch”. Overriding point being that for whatever reason, we just did not show up on D yesterday – straight from the opening tip. Thats on everyone (players and coach).
        The rotations didnt help, but if we play D like that, we arent going to win anyways ..

  • ih8vasquez

    19 minutes and 2 points another good job Greivis…. Useless, selfish, and cant play defence why can’t De Colo get his minutes

    • Musik

      Drives me crazy when Novak and Vasquez are on the floor together. Even more when the team as a whole is already struggling to make stops as it is.

      • asifyouknow

        Read my answer to your hatting buddy ihvasquez

    • asifyouknow

      True …By the way who was guarding Drag in the first quarter?

      Don’t answer that, is a rhetorical question, just in case that word is too big for you here is an explanation:

      “A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question that is asked in order to make a point.”
      If you still don’t get it..Well I give up ?

    • Adriiian

      Vasquez. 0 for 5. Garbage.
      I just hate the mans game. Get him off the fucking team. I know he can pass, but when your missing wide open 3s, and still taking them??

      • asifyouknow

        lol So are you pulling for another team when Vaz is your starting guard,,lol and Casey is bagging groceries at the corner market…got to love it I cant wait./

        • Adriiian

          There’s no fucking way that will happen. I think Kyle will resign. I have a feeling he will.
          No. I will always pull for the Raptors.

          • asifyouknow

            They wont pay 10 mill a year for 4 that is what he wants. I think Jacksons Knicks will…Casey is history, he is not this new GM’s type of guy…Expect a young upcoming coach…And Ujiri’s boy will be signed….you know….oh the misery you will live…love it…lol


    Like always Derozan had 2 more airballs today. Starting to annoy me. Tucker bullied him today. he has no handles. Tross has already shown better handles than him and attacks the basket harder gtfo derozan

    • Philoveritas

      Ross might be better dribbler but he still gets stripped on a high percentage of his drives, DeRozan still is the better finisher in the lane with traffic. Demar doesn’t get stripped so much as he loses the ball on his drives.

      • sleepz

        Neither have much handles for a 2 guard

  • Junior Qamar

    First time this season I turned off my tv before the game was over. 2nd unit threw the game away for a 4 minute strench between the 3rd and 4th where chuck haynes and steve novak were our 4 and 5. Worst front court duo in raptors history . Never seen a worse line up in such an important game. Dwayne cassey F-

    • Aaron

      Psycho T struggled in this game but i agree he should have been out there instead of either of those guys.

      • Junior Qamar

        Yeah we should sign ed davis this off season I think hes a restricted free agent like 2pat

        • Aaron

          Cant have both 2Pat and Eddy and id rather 2Pat

          • Junior Qamar

            Y not have them both. They can play together Davis could b the 5 and 2pat at the 4. Their games dont clash each other. David is a solid interior scorcer and rebounder where as 2pat in perimeter oriented. I would love to see that line up and ed davis is 6’11. We need some bigger guys that can gaurd back up scrubs like the morris brothers. 2pat and ed davis would also be a Solid defensive pairing. We would honestly have 1 of the best front court rotations in the league. Also I dont think ed davis is too expensive to sign, hes been buried in the bench in Memphis. We watched Ed Davis play here in Toronto the man can BALL.

            • Aaron

              We need a legit backup 5 not another 4 being forced to play the 5. I love eddy as much as the next guy but he will get about 7-8 mill a year in free agency due to his potential.

              • Junior Qamar

                Yeah good point. If we can fetch him for under 5 mil a year then id be for it.

              • MoPeteRules

                7-8 mil a year?! You must have been St. Patrick’s day drunk when you wrote that!

    • why

      Agree!That pairing is like Russian roulette. It was a disaster Friday as well
      Hayes went in when Plumlee was on, okay. Then Frye was subbed in for Plumlee 30 seconds later – Psyco T should have come in right then.

  • ad

    As i’ve said 1000 times, lowry is a much better player than derozan and impacts the game way more. When Dd’s mid range jumpers arent falling, his impact is very limited. His ball handling continues to suck and always has. I dont want to shit on the guy too much because he has had a good year but he is not an all star in my books. Also, the reffing was soooo bad today. I cant believe a professional league has so many incompetent officials.

    • FREEJV

      tross has already shown a better ability to get by his guy and he makes it look easy while derozan makes it look like a circus when hes trying to get by his guy.

  • KJ-B

    Young coach + Young team = No NBA respect.

    I see this game totally different–Hornacek had the ears of the refs, Casey def did not.

    Kyle Lowry’s shot hunting is becoming a problem in BIG games. I know every1’s his #1 fan these days, but literally no offense is being run in the last 2 mins, it’s as much Casey’s fault–but regardless of what he calls Kyle will be calling #7 to take the usually ill-advised shot.

    I’d give Lowry a C for getting abused by Dragic & Hercules Jr. Game was lost at the point.

    Not sure if I’d give him the big bucks. Sign & Trade tho!

    • Aaron

      Your kidding right? Without Lowry this team is fighting with Orlando and Philly. Be real

      • asifyouknow

        Yes a agree it would not be good for the FANTASY teams…But for the NBA Toronto they would still do well

    • Musik

      Toronto gets the short end of the stick no matter who they play. The refs just hate on them almost every game.

      • Philoveritas

        Let’s be real, I love em but the raps whine, bitch and complain after every whistle. Lowry will argue for his team regardless of what happened every single play, you lose credibility. DeMar is always fouled in his his own world, and Jonas never fouled a guy in his life or at least he claims to have been standing there with his hands up. This raps team has made a bad reputation for themselves with the zebras this year. They just gotta man-up and quit playing for the whistle.

        • noname

          Let’s be real, almost EVERY NBA TEAM whines, bitches, complains after every whistle. The biggest culprits are the Heat, Spurs, Wizards, Pacers, Lakers, Raptors and Clippers. Of all those teams, we are by far the one that gets the least calls. I honestly think it’s politics because the USA absolutely HATES Canada in just about every way imaginable. Sorry I had to bring politics into this but IMO that’s the way it is. It’s not fair.

    • ad

      hahahahahahaha…. you’ve got to be fucking kidding me. Lowry does so many great things on a basketball court. Let me guess, you are a big dd fan, right??

      • KJ-B

        Not doubting Lowry, just don’t know if he’s worth 4 years of investment at near $40 mil which his agent will want. Amazing year at 27 no less–but I still think at the core, he still struggles with being a me-first player, and his efficiency rating in the last 2 mins of the game and shot selection, I don’t know if the numbers back up the hype…

        Basically, in a game where we’re down, I almost have to close my eyes before he makes or misses a long trey he feels he alone must attempt–I dunno, maybe I’m nitpicking but time will tell…he still has some Mike James tendencies in there–IMO…

        I actually I’m actually thinking that Grevis is gonna be our breakout star (and 2Pat whenever he gets back)–if we’re to make a deep playoff run–DeRozan will score regardless…again, not the popular opinion in the Republic, I know…

        • JustinN

          I say sign him. he’s a tradable asset. better than not signing him and getting nothing in return. Remember, we gave a 1st round draft pick for Lowry. For that to turn into nothing would hurt…

          • asifyouknow

            Point guards are at a premium going into next season, specially durable ones like Lowry ..He will get paid next season.

    • FREEJV

      wtf :s .

      • KJ-B

        Entitled to my opinion just as much as the next guy (see: ‘FREEJV’)…

        • FREEJV

          wtf :s

    • Aaron

      The only PG id rather have over Lowry (who is realisticly abtainable) would be Rondo.

      • ad

        meh… rondo is overrated, doesnt shoot well. I would take lowry over him. Lowry is pretty clearly in the 2nd tier of pgs after players like paul, curry, westbrook, rose etc. He is a very good basketball player, which this team hasnt had many of over the years.

        • Aaron

          And Rondo spent his who recovery learning how to shoot 3’s and its shown. He’s a much improved shooter. He is also a superior defender and passer to lowry. Rondo is in the top tier of PG and has the potential to bring a star with him here eventually.

          • Ghotte

            Rondo has no interest in playing in Toronto whatsoever

      • KJ-B

        sooo NOT kidding — being a bulldog is his strength and weakness. Maybe I’m nitpicking, but I feel in many ways, he’s going to get a whole lot more attention in the playoffs. Can he handle the best defender on the next team and can he continue being healthy–this has been an unusual year…

        Let’s just say, I’d rather see 15 assists than 25 pts from a truly elite point guard. RONDO, no comparison–dude played vs Miami with one hand!!!! His defence is off the charts, with his length!

    • 12hhe33

      This is blasphemy man

  • Eunys

    All the starters played really well except for that Demar taking long shots and making Non-All star mistakes. This bench is useless without Patterson. Fields played really well against Golden state and does not get another chance…We Finished 3rd quarters with useless bench and begin with the same guys and owwwwwww you are giving Dwayne CASSY B for coaching like a cheerleader? Please Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

  • Eunys

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I don t mind loosing a game on Tuesday and Wednesday night but loosing that way on a Sunday noon…in a fully packed arena???? and please stop using that Leo rautins for live commentary, just use him for post games comments.

  • afrocarter

    The officiating was brutal. Raps lost to the whistle as much as they lost to the Suns IMO

  • Roarque

    Tough loss. There are several scape goats that we could line up but could I suggest that the reason the Raptors lost today was that they don’t match up well against this type of team in a once or twice a season series. In a best of seven, the Raptors would win in six.
    It’s kind of scary how much the NBA depends on consistent refereeing. The refs try hard but the speed of the game must overwhelm the younger guys trying to establish their careers in the league. And yet a ref can truly affect the outcome by dousing the momentum of one team over another.
    Speaking of scary, how scary was watching the franchise lying on the court trying to stop the pain of being kneed in the side of the head by a guy who should be playing in the NFL not the NBA. Good case for head gear in the NBA. That hardwood is really hard wood.

  • Tinman

    Phoenix are fighting for the playoffs – credit them for the win, every game for them is big.
    Disappointed with the comments here. Finicky fans at best.
    We lost. We are 8-3 in our last 11 games. Outplaying the teams we are fighting for playoff positioning.

  • Kitchy

    It’s just too bad we had to work so hard to get DD started, we certainly drifted away from playing inside basketball at the rim with Amir and JV. Also, as good as DD is, can we not show a little interest on the defensive side of the ball?

  • Guest

    Terrible officiating. Starting with the out-of-bounds three, not improving after the tech calls and nothing on the Lowry head-knee. These three need to be added to the forum post about officiating.

  • HogyG

    The knee that Tucker landed on Lowry is even considered illegal in the UFC, where it’s a full contact fight that almost anything goes! How the officials could allow that to happen without consequence is beyond ridiculous. If you watch the slow motion replay closely, you can see PJ look down at Kyle’s head, lining it up to make sure his knee lands squarely on target. His body even shifts over to land the shot. He should be suspended the remainder of the year, for that type of dirty play!

    Hey PJ this is basketball not MMA, act like you know the difference you goon!

  • lonabi

    Despite the loss, I find not having to listen to someone incessantly screeching “Bacardi” or “Get that gahbage out of here” quite refreshing. It’s been what seems like two decades now of torture listening to this. One of the bigger upgrades that the Raptors still need is in the commentating.

    • Steverino


  • asifyouknow

    Did not get to watch the games live broadcast but skipped through the replay until I get a chance to watch it bell to bell. Here is my take:

    Goran Dragic apparently did whatever he wanted in the first quarter setting the tempo of this game.

    Was Vasquez guarding him in that first quarter?…. Just saying…

    The starters did well offensively but Vaz and company had a terrible offensive day.

    One thing is for sure, if the back-up aren’t having a good game the Raptors have a hard time beating GOOD TEAMS.

    Casey once again pulled the trigger too fast on Salmons, Vasquez and Tyler, Casey is a micro managing coach! YOU GOT TO LET THOSE GUYS PLAY EVEN IF THEY CAN’T HIT THE SIDE OF A BARN. Casey can’t win playoff games without them!

    All this minute here and minute there paranoid time management by Casey does nothing but destroy confidence in that bench , Vasquez said it best the other day “When I play regular minutes it allows me to have a presence in the game … A lot of times it’s really, really hard coming off the bench and just be effective or have a presence in the game real quick.”

    That goes for everybody on that bench!

    Casey is ridding his horses to death, he may have nothing left for the playoffs but DEAD LEGS. In my opinion he is just stuffing his résumé, he may already know he does not have a job next year.

    Just guessing.
    Right now Casey is Toronto’s worse enemy. Just an opinion…

    • fheufefy

      Ya I agree let the bench keep on throwing up bricks and losing us the game. Hey, maybe you should be Casey’s replacement next year. Vazquez should definitely be a starter over Lowry.

      • asifyouknow

        Obviously you did not read the whole thing or maybe my take is too intellectual for you…Are you a fantasy player? lol…lol

      • fuckvas

        when Vaz is running this team it’s time to blow the shit up

    • GLF

      I hear you but the bench especially Salmons is just playing soooo shit. Tyler and Salmons have been playing horrendously for a while now. And then we all know how bad Hayes is. If Vasquez is off like he was today we are fucked. We need Patterson back BAD. He just makes everything easier for our bench and for our team in general. Without him our bench has ZERO room for error if we want to win.

      • asifyouknow

        Isn’t Patterson coming back soon? … Yea man this bench is the key to winning once the playoffs are here…Fields should get some playing time and let Salmons play every other game, have you notice that after some rest Salmons does well? Maybe his back still hurting.
        Vaz has been doing the job for this team after the all star game, today was his worse game since, that is normal for NBA, if he gets 3 bad games in a row than get Colo in…lol…

        • GLF

          LOL yea. I don’t know why Casey won’t play Fields. He can’t play any worse than Salmons has played. Salmons is just getting old so I can’t fault him too much. I think Patterson my play in NO game if he’s cleared on Monday. We need him bad so I can’t wait.

  • Icarus Descending

    JV and Ross looked great today, as usual we seemed to ignore both of them for he most part after the first quarter, JV especially. Still some silly turnovers for both but they were definitely producing when given the opportunity.

    I just don’t understand why you would use Novak at the 4 it has always worked out terribly. If you actually ae planning on running some plays to get him some 3s ok, but that simply is never the case.

    We got killed with the matchups today but most of all the suns were just hitting crazy shots. Green shot over 50% and a lot if those 3s. Anytime these jump shooting teams from the west get hot it’s pretty tough to win, especially if the whistle isn’t going your way and you don’t ride the hot hand. In a best of 7 they can never be that hot consistently and so the raps style of play will win the series.

  • Louvens Remy

    Nice defense by DD and TRoss. Stars of the game on D.

    • GLF

      LMAO that was some good sarcasm lol

  • Hassan Mehmood Khan

    I feel we are really missing patterson

    • Louvens Remy

      We were.

  • Hassan Mehmood Khan

    we gotta go 3-1 in the next 4 games

    • GLF


  • noname

    There is someone on RR with the handle FREEJV…now there SO DESPERATELY NEEDS to be someone with the handle FREELANDRYFIELDS because i am getting sick of Salmons’ old ass going out there bricklaying shot after shot after shot, and i bet you anything that Fields would contribute way more overall than Salmons. Defense, Rebounding, even shooting with that weird looking form that seems different than the one he had in NYK, and driving to the rim. You name it, Landry Fields will do it better than Salmons. Oh and Casey is an idiot for not making the raptors slow the game down and play halfcourt sets, I mean come on!! It’s a run n’ gun team! JV would have continued his 1st quarter dominance if they had done that. Casey gets a C imo, Salmons gets an F– imo. And don’t get me started about the refs (or should I say valuable suns contributors on the sidelines)…

    • bobmasa

      Agreed 100%

      • asifyouknow

        Yea well his ass may be old but look at your records after the Sacramento boys got here…Some of you folks need to look up the words ..THANKFUL AND HUMBLE

        • bobmasa

          Our record of contribution from Sacramento is from Paterson and Graivis the remaining is just a number.

    • asifyouknow

      Yea well his ass may be old but look at your records after the Sacramento boys got here…Some of you folks need to look up the words …THANKFUL AND HUMBLE …

      • fuckvaz

        thankfull and humble ? git that garbage outta here

        • asifyouknow

          I agree ..when are you leaving ? lol

      • Philoveritas

        I reserve judgement on Salmons age as we are the same age. I still remember the debacle when he backed out of signing for the Raptors and he credited God for showing him the light to Sac-Town. I’m curious if Toronto still had a hard-on for the guy or if he was put in by Sacramento for a salary dump.

        • asifyouknow

          He was a salary dump…..but he is still helpful. but needs to play every other game and let Landry play the other…

          • Ghotte

            Agree. Salmons – when he’s on – is a valuable addition. Problem is, that since his back flared up he’s been a liability b/c he can’t hit a shot and can’t defend as tenacious. Fields should get some burn.

            Bottom line: As well as the Raps have been playing, they NEED the 2nd unit contributions.

      • noname

        the only good contribution I can remember from Salmons is when he dropped 14 against OKC…the rest of the kings have done well but ever since the OKC game Salmons was never the same. Honestly the only players we got from that trade that are worth resigning (at the right price) are PPat and General Greivis (and i’m still not entirely sold on GV)

        • asifyouknow

          You know he does what Casey loves? …Play defense…lol Casey could care less if you score one point, all he cares about is defense …If there was no shot clock he would play the North Carolina 4 corner offense…lol ( if are over 50 you may remember coach Dean Smith)

          • noname

            im 16, but i’m guessing it’s when there are 2 shooters at the corners, 2 ballhandlers/ shooters at the wings and 1 big down low and the ball just keeps on swinging until someone is open?

  • Phat AlberG

    Man this game really got under my skin, ref’s were effin joke today! But I have to put this lost on Casey, I just don’t understand how you can’t get Jonas the ball. He was killing it on the block and they refuse to call post plays for him. Raptors need understand teams like the Suns, you need to beat them up inside. Hopefully they will learn from this lost, but I really wanted this win ughhh go RAPS!

  • Tank

    What do people think about suspending Tucker as a repeat offender. Check out the end of the video. No regard to Lowry’s head.

  • barkleynash

    One negative trend that I am seeing is the inability or willingness of both Amir Johnson and Demar Derozen to block out. Tucker killed Demar on the glass and the morris twins got o boards at will. This has to change come playoff times.

    • why

      I love what Amir brings however he does a mediocre at best job boxing out – not sure why – a big example off is the 3OT loss to Washington he had the inside position on Gortat on the offensive rebound that tied the game in the first or second OT (Gortat can’t get the ball without going over his back if he buts his body on him rather than jumping for the bal without boxing out, if that happens we win )
      Maybe its’ a direct consquence of not playing college basetball

  • JustinN

    Have to keep in mind that the Suns are sitting 9th spot in the West right now. Every game is a playoff game for them. The Raptors don’t have a guaranteed playoff spot, but the Suns have got to fight a lot harder than the Raps to find themselves in the top 8. I was expecting this game to be a hard win.

  • barkleynash

    Raps really missed Patterson. As he is very capable of guarding either of the Morris twins.

  • caccia

    After the game, as reported by Eric Koreen, Lowry said ““I got kneed in the head, bad. I got a headache right now,” Lowry said. “This [camera] light’s killing me right now. But I’m all right, though.”
    Classic signs of concussion. The medical staff may have been negligent in leaving him in the game. The degree of the concussion determines how many days or weeks he should miss.

    • asifyouknow

      I actually look it up are right on….Last I looked Casey is not a doctor but Dr. Casey said he was alright to play. Kyle just got the wind knocked out of him.
      My friends help me here. I was terrible in biology. ARE THE LUNGS IN ONES HEAD ? Couse I understand he got hit in the head…lol

    • DDD

      He was tested, and he does not have a concussion thank god

  • Bendit

    Demar and other main cogs are going to have to understand fast that the screws get tightened by opposition defenses during the playoffs…these ill advised heaves therefore are moreso not recommended.

  • Mexiballer

    Are you serious about Rautins having insightful commentary?

    • Kyle

      right!? I wouldn’t call “Yeah, he’s just so good at that…” insightful

  • duane

    One yeah the raptors should have went back to JV more after his monster first Q.. especially the way demar was struggling which kind of gets to me because it seems like as soon as a team puts a real good defensive player on him and double team he just crumbles.. and lowry is left to will out a win.. i hope demar is ready for that playoff D .. and we really miss patrick patterson off the bench

    • james

      I think that it will come down to Demar mental toughness in playoff then his talent. His abilities and talent are not the issue. The issue is mental and can he go through the playoff while facing a huge amount of pressure from the other team defense,his teammate, raptors fan-base and himself. Is he mental tough enough to do that while playing at an all star level. That what i want to see. It all about how you deal with the pressure of the playoff. That where Bosh and Vince failed at. Lets see if Demar can handle it?

  • asifyouknow

    Just got done watching the replay, let me be clear on this since you folks are all about THE DEFENSE :
    Lowry and Ross got their asses pounded on defense. Period ! Yet I have seen ZERO comments on that horrific performance by those two.
    They got embarrassed, this guys were just too fast for them or maybe the boys went out partying Saturday night..

    • Ghotte

      And Casey is the reason Vasquez played so badly; should have given him 30+minutes tonight!

      • asifyouknow

        Love sarcasem lol but that is his first non helpfull game he has had since the all star brake ….. we all have bad nights…well maybe not you but us mortals do lol

  • Dr. Scooby

    Leo Rautins knows basketball; but when the Raps are losing, his commentary is like alcohol on a fresh cut or salt water in the eye..

  • Ds

    Silver lining: The Raptors are now picking ahead of Phoenix in this summer’s draft 🙂

  • jakdripr

    Where was the rebounding though? I don’t know much about the suns, but they don’t seem that much better than us at rebounding. Definitely not +20. Despite all our miscues if we’d just cut back on the offensive rebounds we might have still won this game, but giving up second chance opportunities to a team that’s shooting 50% from the field is just unacceptable.

    Also, we really are lacking in depth it seems. 2pat and vasquez are our only consistent contributors from the bench, everyone else is just not reliable(even vasquez is on and off). Looking forward to seeing how masai upgrades our bench in the offseason as I think that plays a big part in our inability to hold leads.

  • !!!

    Gotta learn where to place those apostrophes if you’re gonna be a writer, man! An apostrophe followed by an “s” implies possession, as in something belonging to someone/something. So, there would be no apostrophe when you’re talking about the “referees”, as “referee’s” means that the word directly following will belong to the referee. This is not what you mean.
    Also, “Raptors” has no apostrophe for the same reason.

    • Haim not Feldman

      Word! Even though we knew what he meant, good grammar and punctuation should be second nature to a writer. With regard to Jack Armstrong, listen up peeps. Don’t step to Jack or he’ll break you off sumptin’. He’s (he has) probably fo’got mo bout basketball than most fans will ever know.

  • rapierraptor

    We missed Patterson today. I don”t know why people aren’t making more of his absence? p.s. I haven’t read all the comments. I could be wrong.

  • Tim W.

    Now is the time to tank.

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