Umm…. What?

With their first pick in the 2014 Draft, the Raptors have selected Bruno Caboclo – a Brazilian power forward who was described on the broadcast as the “Brazilian Kevin Durant.”

That said, he was also described as “2 years away from being 2 years away” and was NOWHERE near the first round on anybody’s mock, much less the 20th pick. To say this pick is a shock is the understatement of understatements.

I’m going to quickly preface my reaction by saying that I am in the majority of Raptors fans on this one. I know NOTHING about Caboclo, and he wasn’t anyone I’d even heard in the mix for the Raptors’ second round picks. That said, the Raptors could have moved down in the draft if they’d wanted to, and so there must have been some rumblings that someone was planning on taking him between 20 and the Raptors’ next pick at 36.

Caboclo is 18 years old, 6 foot 9, and 200 pounds, according to ESPN, and was Chad Ford’s number 65 overall prospect coming into the draft, and the number 18 international prospect via DraftExpress. Here he is in action, via YouTube:

Ford’s analysis (ESPN Insider):

This is Raptors general manager Masai Ujiri doing what he does. He’s a gambler and not afraid to take huge risks. Cabacolo has a 7-foot-7 wingspan, can shoot it and reminds some scouts of Giannis Antetokoumpo. He’s far away from being able to play in the NBA, but credit Ujiri for swinging for the fences.

Twitter:

Link to a profile of Caboclo distributed by the Raptors

What I gather from all of this is that Caboclo is a raw prospect with a capital R, a capital A, and a capital W. The guy has incredible measurements (7 foot 7 wingspan??) and you can see where the Kevin Durant comparisons come from, body-wise, but we’re talking about a the lottery ticket of all lottery tickets here.

This being said – like Ford stated in his instant reaction, this is an Ujiri kind of pick. The NBA is a superstar driven league, and there is an argument behind taking any player who has even a sliver of a chance to become one in time – remember how high Masai was on the Greek Freak last season. It’s not much solace for fans who were hoping to see the Raptors use their 20th pick to add an instant contributor to what is already a very competitive core, but I suppose it is something.

According to the media, Caboclo will indeed be with the Raptors next season, and it’ll be interesting to see what he’s able to bring to the team from day 1. If his first season even remotely approaches Greek Freak levels, expect fanboy love to be at an all-time high in Toronto. Of course, that’s a tall ask.

More to come from RR tonight as the draft rolls on, and there’ll certainly be much more reaction tomorrow once we’ve had time to let this sit for a while. For now, though, sit tight, cross your fingers, and say a quiet prayer to whatever Ujiri shrine you have set up in your living area.

  • Scott

    Who???

  • Abused Raptors Fan

    W….t…..f….. If you’re going to reach, at least do it right with someone like Inglis FFS! Never thought I’d want Colangelo making picks for us again!

  • Nelson

    Must have taken him to free up cap space. Masai must have no intention of signing this guy and just wanted to waste the pick. That’s the only thing that makes sense

    • Saskatoon Raps Fan

      1st round picks are guaranteed. They have to pay him

      • jjdynomite

        They don’t have to pay Bruno Mars if he is not on the 2014-2015 roster. Masai is obviously trying to clear as much cap space as possible. It’s all pretty ludicrous tho.

    • Xtremenator1

      Why would you waste a pick for no reason… If they wanted to free cap they could have just traded an expiring deal like Salmon’s to the Heat with the Pick, forthe Heats pick and a future 2nd rounder.

  • Saskatoon Raps Fan

    Was he even in for a workout? I’ve never seen his name before. Even in 2nd round mocks

    • Chewwy No Matthew

      He worked out for no teams

      • 2damkule

        …because masai promised to take him at 37.

  • calibremc

    Who is this dude?

  • mike

    is he coming this year or 2 years alway

    • 2damkule

      reports are he’s in the US and will play in vegas, with an eye to being on the roster this year; seems way too early, my guess is if he doesn’t play overseas (or back in brazil), he’ll be in the D-league most of the year. he needs in-game development, and that’s not gonna happen next year with the raps.

  • Chuck Johnson

    The main question is could we have made the same pick at a lower spot? Based on the reaction of the panel, the answer seems to be yes.

    • QuintStar

      Perhaps he could have been picked later. But, what other player satisfies our needs. And, to boot, what other player can protect the rim and stroke the 3?

  • kjh

    “He doesn’t know how to play basketball yet..”

    • Alb

      This makes it sound like he never picked up a ball before but in the above scouting video he mentions he was 4/4 from 3 in the scouted game. He drives to the basket a few times also so and seems to be able to handle it ok for big a dude. 6’9 and the his arms are like inspector gadget. I’m curious how this plays out.

  • Sullly
    • Edgar

      I don’t feel NEARLY as wierded out about this pick after watching that breakdown. I think this is a case of a guy that was just under-scouted AND reached for in order to avoid losing him to Phoenix etc.

  • John

    Fire Ujiri. At least Colangelo knew how to draft. What a fucking joke.

    • Roarque

      mom is that you?

    • StrikerAI

      Yeah because Masai didn’t know how to draft as evidenced by him picking Faried 22nd overall, who happens to be pretty good.

      • Chewwy No Matthew

        Faried was a stud at Morehead State. He also was on the team that beat Kentucky in the 2011 NCAA tournament. Plain and simple, Bruno Mars worked out for zero NBA teams and would have more than likely been free at number 37 pick. I’m really hoping this is move to save money to bring back free agents

        • StrikerAI

          Masai obviously knows more about Bruno Caboclo probably from Basketball without Borders, or else he wouldn’t have picked him. I honestly think people are overreacting to this.

          • Mexiballer

            No we are not over reacting. He is an 18 old kid who has never played against tough competition and who may have not even been drafted until the late second round if at all. Its the waste of a valuable first round pick in a very deep draft.

            • StrikerAI

              That’s the only bad thing, he was picked too early, but other than that, we don’t know much about Bruno.

            • Vydis

              first of all how do you know we took him too early? Second of all the guy is friggen 6″9 with a 7″6 wingspan, aka not a single player in the draft had those type of measurements, this guy is a freak athlete, wants to play, wants to work hard and I see no reason that he cant develop into something special. Embiid only started playing at 16 look how quickly he developed, look at giannis, no one knew of him last year. This guy is a flat out FREAK just because he didnt look that impressive yet doesnt mean shit, even if it takes him 3 years to become decent…..that puts him at 21 years old!!!! you guys are crazy for thinking we wasted a pick. We would have gotten a maybe solid player….but with this pick we get a potential game changer, maybe he will bust but I am not mad at masai for taking this risk…..Remeber that parker and ginobili went late in the draft….and that the spurs are killing it with mainly international talent, just because he isnt american it doesnt mean shit, just wait and see this guy is a once in a generation specimen, again who in the draft, let alone the nba has the specs of this guy?? no one, lets wait and see before you guys are ramming masai for the pick, guys are being ridiculous.

          • John

            Overreacting? Really? I’m the Canadian Kevin Durrant when I play at the YMCA against scrubs as well. That’s essentially what I saw in that video.

            • StrikerAI

              From a video…Guess what, Masai actually scouted him, knows about him from Basketball without Borders and knows how good he actually can be compared to people like you saying Masai is a terrible GM for picking him without knowing anything about him and only watching a small video.

              • Xtremenator1

                Oi! What do you think this is? Over reactions?? PSH that never happens in Pro Sports.

      • John

        I’m happy you’re satisfied throwing away a pick in one of the deepest drafts of all time. For the record, DeRozan, Ross, Valanciunus were all Colangelo picks. I’m not even a colangelo fan but you’re Masai man crush is clouding your judgement. Rodney Hood or Shabbaz Napier were the options that made sense, based on the fact that they were the BAP and they both serve a need. This is Arujao/Nate hoffman type disaster written all over it.

        • jjdynomite

          Really? Everyone knew upon selecting Araujo that he (and Babcock) were doomed, especially at #8 overall. I reserve judgement to see what Masai does with all that cap space and no guaranteed money for a first rounder this season if Bruno Mars is not on the 2014-2015 roster.

  • KG

    We will all be pleased in time. Remember how you felt about the Jonas pick… TO needs to believe!

    • keith

      JONAS WAS PROJECTED FROM THE BEGINNING TO GO IN THE TOP FIVE! NOT EVEN IN THE SAME FUCKING BALL PARK DUDE. COME ON!

      • Raptogram

        Absolutely the same ballpark. Everyone was confused and pissed at the Jonas pick. We had to wait….
        I’m a raps fan for life. I’m prepared to wait…

  • ABRAPSFAN

    This guy could blossom to be the best player in history the point is we could have easily got him with our second round pick. I just don’t understand wasting the 20th on him at all

    • KG

      How do you know we could have got him at 37? Do you work in the nba or scout ball?

      • ABRAPSFAN

        Because he was considered the 60 something best prospect in the draft and not in any mock draft. But you’re right I’m so very sorry for posting a casual basketball inference man, I forgot you had to be a pro scout to post comments here

        • brian

          Love your response man, says a casual basketball fan.

      • Mexiballer

        No body knows if a player will be there when you go to pick. That doesnt mean you use a perfectly good 1st round pick to take a guy who is not even expected to be drafted. If he is there at 37 take him. Or parlay 37 and 59 and whatever else you may need to add to move up in the second round. But dont waste a good 1st round pick on a long shot. Thats bad asset management.

        • 2damkule

          only in the game played by the talking heads is a pick ‘good’ or ‘bad’ based on where he was projected to go. at this stage of the draft, the likelihood of drafting a ‘known’ prospect & having them develop into anything more than a rotation guy is slim (not impossible, but slim). rotation guys literally litter the NBA landscape. at this spot, if there’s a guy you want, and you feel he’s better (or will be better) than anyone else, you take him. a GM has to be able to give zero fucks about what criticism he’ll face over the pick. talking about using later picks as trade fodder to do what you want is great, but you still need at least one other team to cooperate in that effort, and from what i’ve read, MU read the tea leaves & didn’t feel it was an option, so rather than risk missing out on the guy he wanted, he made sure he got him, all whilst extending his middle finger to the ‘experts.’

        • KG

          You all miss the point. First, just because he was ranked 60 by Chad Ford or some other “writer” doesn’t mean he wasn’t ranked higher by the many teams with professional scouts. Second, the kid is 18 and we are rebuilding… good fit.

          So soon we all forget that we were about to blow up the raptors last year after sending Gay on his way. Just because we found chemistry does not mean we swing for the fences next year. We’re not in win now mode, we’re in build a winner mode.

          Take a look at the last few 20th picks – Tony Snell, Evan Fournier, Dontas nobody, James Anderson, Eric Maynor, Alexis Ajinca, Jason Smith, Renaldo Balkman, Julius Hodge… not one of these players made an impact in the NBA. Sure there were picks before and after these guys that are stars and that’s the point. Go big or go home.

  • Dave

    Who the heck is this guy? We could have gotten him as a second round pick. Was expecting Clint Capela or KJ Mcdaniels

  • JD

    I literally laughed out loud for 5 minutes straight after I heard Silver say his name. I can’t remember the last time there was a 1st round pick who I had NEVER heard of, by any team. It hurts that Rodney Hood was still on the board, but mostly I’m completely flabbergasted. Masai has balls.

    • Dr. Scooby

      Masai must have elephant sized balls.

    • ValanInuyashaSSS

      relax this is the 20th pick not 2nd overall or 12th pick, maybe we suck for years, every year was a high anticipated lottery pick who can coming in and play right away. I would say right now I pick Bruno over Rodney Hood one on one.

  • Rupert

    I love masai and i will trust the man but if calangelo made this pock i would go on a shooting rampage and force the suns at gunpoint to trade us ennis for the 59th pick

  • Carbon

    Don’t know what ESPN is talking about… He looks more than competent playing professional basketball. He does look very raw though. There’s a draftexpress video that was uploaded onto youtube about 20 minutes ago.

  • Ho Tep

    Leiweke probably just shit a dachshund. The man knows a thing or two about optics.

    • Mexiballer

      No kidding.

  • Dave

    He reminds me a lot of Giannis physically. There’s like no film on this guy though.

  • Mexiballer

    WTF!!!!! Is Masai out of his mind. He said he wasnt going to do anything crazy and he does this with a first round pick. A good first round pick that would have netted a perfectly good rotation player or better. Is he trying to hold up the laughable Raptor tradition by doing something ridicoulous. I take back everything I have said about Masai. I was dissapointed also when Ennis was gone at to the Suns at 18. But this??? Masai has some explaining to do. Im stunned.

  • Babcock

    Rafael Araújo

    • 2damkule

      dumb.

  • craptor

    The blind Raptor faithful believing Masai can do no wrong will be severely tested by this moronic pick. What a waste of the 20th pick. I am not an NBA GM, so I am not in the know… But you’ve got to guess he is completely off the radar until at least the 2nd round or late 2nd round. Why reach so bad, Masai??? Why??? You could have trade the pick for some other asset. Not to say Bruno will never pan out, but he has almost zero value right now!!! Your involvement with basketball without borders is well know.. Is this pick a favor back to the program. I just don’t fuccking get it…

    • KG

      You put way too much credit in mock drafts and nba writers. Let me ask you this… If you didn’t have mock drafts how would you feel? Watch his tape, dude can ball and we are a rebuilding team.

      • craptor

        Are you fuccking kidding me? Watch his tape??? There is barely any good footage of the dude or any vs higher level competition, and you’re saying the dude can ball??? Wow, you must be a pro scout. Also, sites like draft express have excellent scouting videos of all of the known prospects, funny how you diss the mock drafts, they do provide a lot of good info for you to see for yourself. Stop hugging Masai’s nuts so hard… You might just get a creampie..

        • doncity

          moron alert

          • craptor

            Moronic douche alert!

    • 2damkule

      you don’t get it, because you seem to be a child, and like a child, were pining for the immediate gratification generated by drafting a ‘now’ player who would more than likely have provided a marginal (if any) impact to the team. if you think that MU drafted him at 20 because he had no other plan, then you’re an idiot as well as a child. reports coming out almost immediately following the pick were that two other teams were going to take him before 37; with the inability to swing a trade for ennis, MU must have felt that his chances of being able to maneuver into position to take him after 20 (but before 37) were limited (or non-existent), so he did what any GM with balls would do, which is take the guy he wanted without considering what others would think. it’s a lot easier for talking heads & media puppets to forget how they felt about a certain player after the fact. 2, 3, 4 years from now, if he turns out to be a gem, you think it’ll matter what simmons et al thought on draft night? grow up.

      • craptor

        LMFAO. You need to grow up 2damfule. In a deepest draft since 2003, you are claiming a player picked at early 20 will not have any significant impact. I guarantee you that at least one of the known players, that is not Bruno, taken from 20-30 will become an impact player. I’ll even pull this thread up in 2-3 years to see who had right or wrong. What are the odds of Bruno becoming an impact player or better 5-10%? A rotation guy? 20-30%? A bust? 60%? C’mon, tell me he’s a sure fire stud!!!

        By his own admission, Bruno was not the player first on MU’s list, that player was Ennis. MU reached to get Bruno at 20, since he couldn’t swing a trade up to get for Ennis or to get lower for more value as he admitted. So he ended up reaching for Bruno because he didn’t want to take the chance of losing him before 37. None the less, that was a reach, and even MU will tell you that reaching is not good asset management, but he probably did it because he like the kid. You don’t think people who disagree with the pick, already ran through these type of scenario, but are still disappointed with the pick? You’re saying that Bruno would not be there at 37, based on what? Media reports and opinions of the Raptors brass, the same media reports and opinions of others that speculate that he would be there at 37. There is plenty of misinformation given out by teams during the draft, and smoke screens teams play with one another. There is no definitive answer to whether Bruno would be there at 37 or not, so it was an educated gamble on MU’s part that he would not, and hence the reach. So anyone who disagree with this type of gamble in asset management is an idiot? And you like jumping on those who disagree and call them idiots? LMFAO 2damfule!!

  • Mexiballer

    Unbelievable! Unfuckingbelieveable!!!

  • Phat AlberG

    I’m not worried, Masai is a great scout and knows how to judge players. Our team is deep and we can afford to stash players and let them grow, we don’t need rookies we need vets.

    • keith

      Deep. Are you serious? What depth did u see during the playoffs because what I saw was No Small Forward and a 6’8” backup center that can’t jump. Kid might be great but how about not at #20 when NOBODY KNOWS WHO HE IS!!!

      • Minks77

        Just ftr, chuck is 6’6″

        • 2damkule

          in fairness, he may have been referring to his girth with that measurement.

          • Minks77

            Now it all makes sense

      • Phat AlberG

        Who cares people don’t know him, I trust my GM.

        • keith

          I trust Ujiri knows talent but the problem seems to be that he doesn’t know the current situation. This team is on the brink of being a solid playoff team with DD and Lowry and growing talent in Jonas. Taking a guy who might be the next Kevin Durant 4 years from now doesn’t exactly help the team now. And if you say something along the lines of “gotta have superstars to win champs”, the current Kevin Durant hasn’t won one yet. And he is not 5 years RAW!

          So we know Ujiri knows talent, but seems to not understand timing! You take a swing when u have Lowry locked up. U take a swing when you proved the team can handle it. And a Brazilian? Does Rafael mean anything to him other than a TMNT?

          • Mexiballer

            Exactly. Its bad timing to make this move now. The Raptors are at the doorstep and on the verge of taking it to the next level after a playoff appearance. So why not add a nice piece from tonight’s draft instead of trying to hit a home run that may or may not pan out three or four years down the road. It doesnt make sense.

            • Raptogram(notjoey)

              Fuck guys, It’s not like we’re picking in the top 10. Might as well swing for it. Heck, we plan on being around years from now.

              Durant in 2016. It will happen. In Drake we trust.

              • keith

                the fact you are quoting that we will get Durant in 2016 and defending that we picked the future brazilian KD at #20 just so automatically disqualifies you.

            • kameko

              on the ‘verge of taking it to the next level’??? We had a first round playoff exit against the fucking shitty nets. We’re nowhere CLOSE to taking it to the next level.

              • Mexiballer

                Yes…we are ready for the next level. I didnt say next level as in contender level. I was saying the next level as in stepping up to being a better team.
                A first round knockout…exactly. The next level would be making it to the second round or further. There are 4 or 5 Raptors and two coaches in L.A. right now working out this summer and there is lots of planning and work happening now to make this team better. And if they resign Lowry and the other free agents we will take the next step and be a better team. But we need a deeper bench…and tonight was a blown opportunity to deepen that bench.

                • Ghotte

                  Again: Maybe the talent from 20 or higher was judged NOT ABLE to provide bench depth. Do you think that decision might have come from something called “scouting”?

              • keith

                I agree we are not on the verge to taking it to the next level, but we are on the verge of being a solid playoff team which is just fine by me. Would it be nice to win a championship, yes. But being a playoff team is a hell of a lot better than being where we have been for so many years because of picks like these. This team has tried to hit the HomeRun many times. We don’t do well.

                and again, you don’t find superstars at #20 unheralded or not. Lebron, KD and Duncan don’t get drafted by the team that knew something the others don’t.

                and I really want to see what this kid can do, but he does very little if anything for this team this year which WON’T be on the verge of anything other than the #1 overall pick if Lowry leaves. Picks like these don’t help keep the current talent. Go ask Vince and Bosh how it feels when the team swings for the fences like this? They leave!

          • Suspicious Mind

            So you’re argument is that we shouldn’t aim for Superstar talent because Kevin Durant hasn’t won a championship yet? And at the 20th pick no less? Really? I find this timing to be absolutely perfect because this kid can develop with grown ass men, practice with them, absorb info from them and come along at his own pace. And how do you know he doesn’t have Lowry locked up? Every interview I’ve seen with Kyle, illustrates a guy who is trying to hide the fact that he wants to remain a Raptor to maximize his deal. I see right through it from my limited window, and the obviously rock solid relationship that exists between them would most likely indicate that Masai has a few more indicators than us.

            Aside from all that, a good GM is interested in longevity. Not just one 3-4 year run, only to break it all down again. This move, if reports are correct about his upside in the years to come, is exactly what that is. Continuity for now and in the coming years.

            At the very worst, we just threw away a 20th pick that would traditionally yield a low end rotational player. At the very best, a freakish athlete that the few that know him say has enough upside to compare him to Kevin freakin Durant. I’d be curious to hear your timing argument in 2-3 years.

            • keith

              Kevin Durant was the #2 overall pick. He wasn’t the #20 pick. Show me a player that is as good as Kevin Durant or Tim Duncan that has been selected out of the Lottery? To say we just got a future superstar at #20 when as you say typically the 20th pick usually doesn’t work out. Why, because typically teams do this move. you know what team is typically successful in the 20’s? The ones who take players who won’t be superstars but will help a team immediately. The teams that swing for the fences outside of the top 5 are currently picking in the top 5.

              and no I didn’t say we shouldn’t take a superstar talent because KD hasn’t won a championship, I’m saying that swinging for the fences for the future superstar doesn’t guarantee a championship (at least outside of the top 5, KD was #2. Swing away at that pick).

              This team has holes that need to get filled to be a good team again this year. I believe Bruno will be a great player some day. Maybe next year. But he most likely won’t be doing anything this year.

              and if we constantly draft like the Spurs or teams that tend to find gems late in the draft, I would feel confident in this pick. But we don’t. I know Ujiri knows talent but he doesn’t know this teams history for swinging for the fences. We don’t do well with this stuff. I think that is mostly a lot of our concerns, Ujiri might have pulled a couple rabbits in Denver but this is not Denver.

          • Theron

            There is no guy that can help us now at the #20 pick. That is why he was selected.

  • Niagara_dude

    I was worried this GM would start drafting players from other countries and this is the worst pick of the draft.You draft with your head not your heart (basketball without borders).There were many good USA born and trained players still therel to be taken and we take some kid with little or no experience.This GM IS A BIG DUMMY and everyone stated you could have had this kid with your last pick in the second round (no other team was going to take him in first)Dumb and over hyped GM.

    • 2damkule

      dumb.

      • Niagara_dude

        Did you not read what everyone is saying about him? about 4 years away and on top on that GM sells our second round pick to division rival.This is not smart management for this team.

  • Mexiballer

    I just went from completely trusting Masai to not trusting him at all. WTF. I can’t believe this.

  • some random guy

    I feel sick.

  • Xtremenator1

    Of all the stuff Masai has done since he came to the team, to get worked up that he made a questionable draft pick and ask for his head on a stick, you guys are animals. Ish happens, and the good far out weighs the bad when it comes to Masai. We truly don’t know what this player will become with relatively no information, and he’s only 18. Perhaps he will be good, or maybe he wont. I am honestly okay with that risk, why? Because since the Raptors didn’t make the trade with the Griz today, its more than likely that they will buy out Salmon’s contract by free agency. Which means they’re going to free up enough money to not only sign Lowry, Vasquez, and Patterson but to go after Trevor Ariza. Yes the initial shock of Bruno was a shocker, but if you step back and look at things, MEH?

    • John

      What has he done? He made a trade in which he tried to tank and it somehow resulted in the team turning it around. Our starters were either drafted or traded for by Colangelo.

      • Xtremenator1

        Besides trading Melo and actually making hia team in Denver better, he got rid of Bargs, and Rudy Gay. Essentially two of the hardest contracts to trade in the league; that is amazing. Besides the pick, there’s nothing he has done that has been bad. Its especially tough for him to maneuver trades with all the bad expiring deals this season. Now when the 2014-2015 season is over, then we shall see what he can do. They’re going to be able to afford a max guy with their current roster if they wanted to. But now he’s hamstrung.

    • Steverino

      Masai had some luck and good moves in, what?, two years in Denver? But like any GM anywhere, there will be good moves and bad. He’s neither the god everyone said he was, nor the goof they’re saying now. Like most, he’s right in between.

      • Xtremenator1

        There is no god, but people treat him like one because of the deals and the end result they had. He also isn’t bad because he made this pick, is all I am saying. Fans over react.

  • IMO

    There might have been another team who knew of this kid and might have reached just the same with a late first rounder… we’ll never know and we do have access to less info

    Not saying I was completely stoked with the pick I was just as speechless, but who knows?

  • Niagara_dude

    Toronto draft grade z-, what a joke and GM should be fired for stupid pick (basketball without borders effect).Joke of the league everyone on espn is laughing at our dumb over hyped GM.

    • Carbon

      WOW u blow dude… we don’t even know this kid and you are already judging… btw this is the same GM that pulled a miracle trade last year and made the raptors relevant again. Do you think ESPN knows more about this kid that the GM that watch him play more than just that one videotape?

  • Argos

    Why is everyone so certain they could’ve got him with a later pick? The Raptors have more information than all of us, and maybe there was some rumblings that another team was interested in him, and going to take him (OKC? Houston?). The scout guy on ESPN said that someone was going to take him, so clearly other teams knew of him and he had some interest. I don’t see why everyone is so upset about, none of us have ever seen him play or know anything about him, so we cannot make judgements on him as a player.

    • Lex

      Lol, OKC? OKC already has Kevin Durant, why would they need “The Brazilian Kevin Durant”. And what if he’s actually shit and that’s why NO ONE has ever seen him play, or know anything about him.

      • IanM94

        I’m 100% sure the Raptors and their staff know MUCH more than you.

        • Copywryter

          Are you equally certain that the Raptors know more than the other NBA teams who had no interest in him? Teams who draft well – like the Celtics, or the Spurs, or the Lakers? Nobody had heard of this kid and perhaps two teams had him on their radar as a second-round project pick.

          Chances are very, very good that this will be a wasted selection.

          • IanM94

            Actually, there was a rumour that the Spurs were interested in drafting Bruno, I don’t know if it was with the 30th pick or not, but still, you never know when a team could trade up or down to get someone. Also, the Raptors were one of the few teams who actually saw him play, so other teams didn’t have as much info on him as the Raptors, and who knows, maybe there was a team willing to pick him between pick 20 & 37. Lastly, since when are the Lakers a good drafting team? Seriously, do you follow past drafts? They’re not known for their drafting, and do not deserve to be put in the same category as the Spurs when it comes to drafting. The Celtics are okay at the draft, they did good with Avery Bradley and Jared Sullinger but they also drafted Fab Melo…I think you’re overrating the C’s and Lakers scouts because of their famous brand. The Raptors aren’t that bad of a drafting team, they’ve been pretty solid since 2008 and they haven’t screwed up on any pick since 2006 I’d say.

      • Xtremenator1

        Well, if it turns out the Brazilian Kevin Durant turns out to be as good as the American Kevin Durant, than I think having two of those guys on one team would be pretty…. Pretty… Pretty… Pretty good.

        • Tim

          Slow hand clap, nice reference.

      • CashGameND

        well the reason OKC would need the brazilian Kevin Durant is because the real Kevin Durant is going to be a raptor in 2 years. Gotta take the next best thing

        • CashGameND

          or maybe this is what everyone was talking about when they said Kevin Durant would be a raptor in 2 years.

          • ScottSegal

            “two years from two years”

    • Mexiballer

      The guy on ESPN also said…”He cant really play basketball yet.” and “This is the all time swing for the fences pick”
      and…”Im blown away, Ive been doing this for ten years and…he’s two years from being two years away from playing in the NBA.” and he hasn’t really played very much.”

      • CharlieHustle

        He works for ESPN. Not for an NBA team.

      • RPT23

        I don’t know that scout’s Credentials but if he’s working on ESPN and not with an actual NBA team… just saying.

        • Mexiballer

          I agree. I was responding to Argos quoting the ESPN analyst in his comment above. But having said that…the ESPN International analyst probably knows a lot more about Bruno then any NBA scout or coach or GM. Because no one has scouted him or really even seen him play. Dwayne Casey saw him for the very first time last week. Thats it…one time. Dwayne Casey doesnt even know what he has yet. This was all Masai.

    • Thomas

      Tweets from Raptors people say that Utah and Phoenix would have taken him before the Raptors 37th pick. Plus Fran said the same thing about Giannis Antetokounmpo last year.

  • Finner1

    Hey all you guys laughing now may be smiling in 3 years when this guy turns out to be a FREAK ..LOL

    • Xtremenator1

      Apparently that’s out of the question. It’s impossible he could become a good NBA player. Since nobody knew about him, that means he will forever be a nobody, and he will never be anything in his career.

      • Chewwy No Matthew

        I hear what you are saying but that doesn’t mean that this kid will be a bust either. 4.9 points per game average is nothing to get excited about either

  • John

    I just love how people who have a Masai man crush will defend this selection and deem it as no big deal. This is the deepest draft in a long time. Shabbaz napier, who carried his team to a national championship, is now on a team that was in the NBA finals. But we get a 4 year project instead.

    Finally, this Brazilian Kevin Durrant shit is ridiculous. You know what he was doing at 18? Dominating college basketball. At 18 he wasn’t 4 years away. He was ready to dominate.

    • mjm

      And he’s replacing Mario Chalmers, who carried his team to a national championship, and just laid a stinky egg in the finals.

      • craptor

        Mario Chalmers did not carry anything other than LeBron and DWade’s jock strap. Napier legitimately carried a pretty average UConn team to the title.

  • d_1212

    Spurs could have been looking at him, and draft him at 30, just a thought…

  • Xtremenator1

    The heat traded the 26th, 55th, and a future 2nd rounder for the 24th pick and Napier, which means they could have easily done the same for the Raptors if it was indeed a salary thing. So, they must believe this guy is worth the risk.

  • chill

    chill. bruno and parts are getting traded for ennis

  • Luc

    Even if they’d drafter Napier then traded him to the heat for the 26th pick plus a late round pick or the 26th and someone else. Then drafted this guy. I understand Toronto wanted Ennis but they must have had back up picks that included projected first round picks…

  • Minks77

    I can only hope his scouts are as diligent I their jobs as he was as a scout. That and his involvement with BWB gave him an inside track.

  • Luc

    Lets hope they trade but I’m sure Napier and parts would have been an easier trade than Bruno and parts. Plus added bonus, if no trade works, you still have Napier on your team.

  • Buschfire

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZAeqa3Yp98 at NBA basketball without borders…

  • John

    You people make me laugh. What would you be saying if Colangelo made this pick? I defended him selecting Valunciunas because there was actually a scouting report and people knew about him. Masai pick Hoffa 2.0 and its all good.

    • Xtremenator1

      Guess you aren’t reading the comments, 99% of the users are freaking out. Its like they lost Bosh for nothing again.

  • Mexiballer

    Picking him at 37 would have been fine. But picking him at 20 is inexcusable and a bad decision no matter what he becomes in the future. Masai said he would not do anything crazy. Swinging for the fences with a first round pick in a deep draft is crazy.

    • IanM94

      “No matter how he becomes in the future”? What if he becomes great? Then you’ll have your foot in your mouth.

      • Mexiballer

        Not at all. Even if he does become great Its still a bad decision to use the 20th pick on a such a higly speculative player. Especially when you have two second round picks. They could have had a solid player at 20 and still try to get Bruno later in the draft. Now they are without that solid young player that could have helped them now and in the future. Its a waste of a good first round pick no matter what happens in the future.

        • 2damkule

          uh, you’re missing the point. IF HE BECOMES GREAT, it doesn’t matter where he was picked, it only matters that he was picked by your team. let’s give this a bit of time to simmer, maybe, before making ham-fisted irrational arguments?

  • DC

    Raptors fans, before you panic, let me tell you a story.

    In 1996, the NBA (much as it is
    today) came to one of the most anticipated draft classes in recent
    memory. What seemed like dozens of All-Stars and Hall of Famers came out
    in this draft. Allen Iverson. Ray Allen. Kobe Bryant. Steve Nash. Ben
    Wallace. Jermaine O’Neal. So when the Kings came on the clock at 14, our
    fans expected them to get right into that mix with NCAA tournament hero John Wallace falling right into their hands.

    With the fourteenth pick in the 1996 NBA draft, the Sacramento Kings select…Peja Stojakovic.

    -David Stern

    Analysts, fans, and personal across the league were baffled. The
    question they all had was unanimous: Who!? Stojakovic didn’t appear on a
    single draft board, mock draft, top-100 list, top 250 list, or listing
    AT ALL. There was a tidal wave of boo’s at
    Sleep Train Arena. Fans appeared ready to riot, so Kings GM Geoff Petrie
    came out into the arena, grabbed a mic, and said, “This kid is the best
    shooter I have ever seen.” 18 years later, Stojakovic is a three-time
    All-star. He finished 4th in MVP voting in
    2004, when he averaged 24 points per game and shot 43% from three. He
    became the first player to win back-to-back Three-Point contests since
    Larry Bird, and played 13 years in the NBA. John Wallace, the legendary tournament hero, played six seasons, averaged 7.9 points per game, and had a sparkling PER of 13.9.

    I know nothing of the guy you drafted, but deep down, I suspect that your GM knew who he was picking.

    “We had a motley crew of guys. We had Euro guys. We had guys
    that couldn’t speak English. We had guys that didn’t want to speak
    English. We had guys like me from planet whatever.”

    -Scott Pollard

    Kontos. Ugh.

    by Darth Divac

    on Jun 26, 2014 | 10:25 PM

    reply

    • Xtremenator1

      Wait a couple days to make a sensible point, right now to many people are in the moment to think straight. Let them cool off and then they’ll understand what youre trying to say.

    • pizza247

      Not an especially relevant comparison. 1996 was much, much different in terms of international scouting and distribution/availability of information, game footage, etc. Peja wouldn’t have been nearly as much of an unknown in 2014.

    • CashGameND

      wait so we drafted the brazilian peja Stojakovic? lol

    • brendanvanson

      Let me tell you the story of Rafael Arujo….
      I don’t mind this pick, swing for the fences, but after Haffa, they have a right to be worried.

      • Brett Charles Pilon

        We did a poor job with Arujo

  • Thomas

    Reports everywhere are saying he would have never made it to #37, so obviously other teams were interested in him. Just remember this is the same guy that got 3 draft picks for Andrea Bargnani. I’ll hold my criticism for now…

  • RNsteve

    So..If the Raptors goal was to beat out the “Wtf?/Who?” reaction of 2012 draft with T.Ross then well done. Not one single person outside of the Raptors organization can even suggest they saw this coming…Bruno Caboclo. Now excuse while I join ever other Raptors fan and google this guy relentlessly

  • Chuck Johnson

    The people freaking out crack me up. Yes it’s possible that you may be proven right but right now you are just talking out of your ass. Just because he wasn’t on anyone’s radar doesn’t mean he wasn’t a good pick. Manu Ginobili was drafted 48! Let’s wait and see.

    • StrikerAI

      Agreed. I’m going to wait till Masai is interviewed about why he picked him and until I find out more about Bruno, and then I’ll start judging Masai’s decision.

      • Chewwy No Matthew

        I am thinking the same thing. I am hoping that this is saving the team money to resign their free agents. First round picks have guaranteed contracts but this kid won’t for two years

        • StrikerAI

          That probably was part of the reason to pick, but I’m sure Masai saw potential in him, especially if Bruno Cabolco is being called the “Brazilian Kevin Durant”.

    • keith

      Spurs had David Robinson and Tim Duncan when they picked Many. THEY COULD AFFORD TO TAKE A SWING.

      • Johnson

        because playing it safe and most likely drafting an average at best player at 20 is so much better. those players are never available all the time in Free Agency right? lmao. i’m so happy i’m not small minded af

        • keith

          Playing it safe is one thing (BTW playing g it safe would have gotten Iguadala and danny granger). We are talking the biggest swing of the draft. Aroujo was the biggest swing. And Brazilian.
          But I’m small minded. Got it!

          • Chuck Johnson

            Araujo wasn’t a swing. He was drafted for need not because he was the best player available. Nobody was raving about his upside.

            • keith

              Andris Biedrins was picked 3 picks later. He was a position of need and was much more heralded than Araujo. He was picked in his range, Araujo was meant to be picked LATE in the first round. Could have traded down for him!

              and Robert Swift was also a more known player coming out of high school.

              but the point is reaching for a player tends to screw up this team. They reached for Araujo instead of trading down to him or adding more depth (there were centers on the team btw. They picked up a group that ended up being better than Rafael too). Ross was a reach. Despite Andre Drummond being available, they could have traded down for Ross. Its taking the opportunity to reach that has hurt this team. Hopefully it won’t happen again.

              and I really don’t buy into the “well they wouldn’t have been available if we traded down”. If Bruno was on a couple of teams radars like they are saying, there is no way a couple of reporters wouldn’t have been aware of it. Look at all the articles to the right, they have a theme. they are laughing at the raptors, well they are laughing at the 6ers now because of their silly drafting, but we are not looking good throughout the NBA. and that stuff effect Unrestricted Free Agents who we need to resign.

              • craptor

                Masai nuthuggers will not think objectively, they’ll just call anyone who questions him an idiot. Completely agree with your points about reaching, I follow the NBA and NFL drafts religiously, and reaching almost never pans out.

          • Ghotte

            Araujo wasn’t a swing at the fences. Not sure what you are talking about. Babcock thought he was getting a sound big man to man the centre position. Araujo wasn’t a project.

            • keith

              Aroujo was the biggest surprise of the draft. He wasn’t meant to be drafted at that spot. That is a swing for a player to fit a position of need instead of taking the BPA. It was also a colossal failure. I’m not saying this will be but the track record stands.

      • Chuck Johnson

        If the Raps want to sniff a championship they also need to take a swing. They can’t afford not to. A serviceable player at the 20th pick won’t give this team the type of improvement they need to be a regular fixture deep in the playoff. Swing for fences Masai!!

        • keith

          swings at #20 don’t win championships either. Go look at the last 2 decades of champions. Are any of them led by a player that was picked below #5? duncan, Lebron, Shaq. Even the Pistons had Billups who was drafted #3 overall.

          and yes a solid player would have helped this team stay in playoff contention. No it wouldn’t have won a championship, but brazlian KD’s don’t either (again, current KDs haven’t either). Even the best prospects and homeruns that Ujiri has brought in are currently bouncing around the NBA playing for non championship winning teams.

          It this pick turns the Raptors into a Championship team, I will eat my shoe. If this pick becomes another bust (I do hope not, I would love to see this kid do well), we will be a crappy team again. Lowry will leave, DD will eventually want to leave and we will be picking Bargnani again!

          Its solid players that do win championships btw. Yes the Spurs had Duncan but it was solid role players taken late in the draft that won this year. Not Manu or Parker. It was Kawhi Leonard, a solid 2 year starter at SDSU that was a known future starter. Not the next whoever! Danny Green wasn’t expected to be the next anyone, he is just another “serviceable player”. Boris Diaw won’t lead a team by himself to a championship! But he will help a team by playing his role.

          Role players help. I don’t know why so many hate having good role players. If this was a top 5 pick, then we should try and get a star. But at #20, a role player is more likely to play a game than an unknown who could have been had in the second round.

          • Ghotte

            None of Mitch McGary, Jordan Adams, Rodney Hood, Shabazz Napier, Clint Capela, P.J. Hairston, Bogdan Bogdanovic, C.J. Wilcox, Josh Huestis or Kyle Anderson were likely to contribute to our depth situation. You are on fumes if you think any of them would have been a rotation candidate let alone a depth player.

            • keith

              so you are telling me that those players, any of them, won’t be a solid bench player? None of them. Including the guy that will probably start for the Miami heat at PG now?

              If John Salmons is in the rotation, you are on fumes if you think any of those guys wouldn’t be a better option off the bench. We used horrible players (Salmons, Hayes) off the bench this year. McGary would be a huge upgrade over Hayes. Hood would be a hell of a lot better option than Salmons.

              Again, when the #20 overall pick from Brazil becomes the next KD, I will eat my shoe instantly! The #20 overall pick has NEVER become a superstar! but there have been some decent role players from that spot.

              AND THEY JUST TRADED HIM!!!!!! HA!

              • keith

                Shit, nevermind. I just saw a fake trade rumor story. Dumb reaction! lol

    • ammar

      Manu ginobili was picked 57th btw chuck johnson

  • Johnson

    This is the same GM who drafted Lawson and Faried in the same draft range in recent drafts. It is also well known that he really wanted trade into the draft last year to draft Giannis A. I think Ujiri deserves the benefit of the doubt as a talent evaluator, no? Better to go for a potential homerun pick at this stage in the draft than go for a safer pick whose ceiling is average. Anyone saying that they could have got Bruno at pick 37 is being stupid. Maybe they could have, maybe they couldn’t have. No one will ever know. Stop acting like you do. There may very well be a team out there pissed at the Raptors for drafting this guy before them, and had they been picking before the Raptors, social media would be saying the same bs about them too.

    I love the balls of this pick. I hate playing it safe. Championship teams aren’t built by playing it safe. Honestly I was quite confused and briefly upset with the Valanciunas pick when it happened. I certainly learned from that. Calm down guys… it was only a #20 pick and we can’t even evaluate it for another 2-3 years. These idiotic immediate overreactions make you sound like babies. Please let us know when you’re an NBA scout ok thanks.

    I trust Masai Ujiri. Go Raptors!

    • Xtremenator1

      Hindsight is amazing.

    • brian

      When every commentator who has studied the Draft for the past year has not heardof this guy then I am guessing he would have been there at 37.

      • Xtremenator1

        Key word “commentator”. Everything these commentators know is from other scouts and analysts mouths. They know nothing on their own account, because they didn’t go out and study the talent in person. There is more to it than watching it on TV or in a blog.

  • Chaz

    Saw Napier play in the Tournament in Buffalo from the fourth row. An absolute bulldog of a leader. Would have taken him regardless but if Kyle leaves this is a disaster.

  • brian

    I will remember this Draft for a long time, some solid prospects were still on the board.

  • Stef

    Just because the tv guys said ‘he’s 2 yrs away from being 2 yrs away’, it doesn’t mean it’s anywhere near true. They didn’t even know who he was and they certainly didn’t scout him.

    Masai was obviously — or apparently — one of the few who actually scouted Bruno .. and maybe what he saw was so unbelievably amazing, he just kept quiet and hoped like hell that whoever else scouted him didn’t have the balls to take him before he got his own chance to do so.

    Masai isn’t a dope .. and he’s been planning for this draft night for a long time.

    It’d be hard to believe that Masai just got stupider basketball-wise than every Raptors fan who’s upset about this pick.

    • Vin Domenico

      The international nba scout who knows him said he was 2 years from 2 years….

      • Xtremenator1

        Because scouts are right 100% of the time right? I mean, this guy is GOSPEL. You’d think he’d get hired by a team given the fact he’s a god at scouting talent, I mean seriously he could probably make a lot of cash working for teams like the Lakers and Celtics.

        • Vin Domenico

          Did I say he couldn’t be wrong ?

          • RPT23

            No you didn’t, but you stated that an international scout “who knows him” says he’s 2 years from being 2 years. It sounds like you’ve already made your assumption that the scout is right for the Very fact that he is an international scout AND he knows him.

        • John

          So we should trust your insight instead?

          • doncity

            who would you have picked? People are willing to go along with Masai because his track record so far inspires that level of confidence. If Bruno can play in the NBA this year, block a couple shots and make a couple mid-range jumpers it will be a successful play – this is a number 20 selection not a high lottery pick.

          • Xtremenator1

            There are hundreds of thousands of scouts who look at millions of potential players, yet the league only has a couple hundred. Masai and Casey have said they’ve worked out Bruno a lot, and even went down to Brazil to see him multiple times (since 2013), which means they would know way more than any random scout who isn’t aligned to a team, and is just barely above a blogger who has his sources in the media.

    • Johnson

      thank you

    • tonious35

      With a broadcast team hiring Bill Simmons as the main panel announcers, you have to take their opinions with a BRICK OF SALT!

    • RPT23

      l can’t rec this any more!

    • Dingalingz

      You’re all talk, just like the Raptors Management is on this kid. He was listed as No. 65 its not like Masai was the only nigga after this nigga. It doesn’t take a genius to wait until round 3 to pick this giant ass bust. What a waste of a pick! Will NOT last in the NBA! On a side note, neither with Andrew Wiggins. He’s gonna get pummeled by 230lb+ defenders. Just wait and see.

  • brian

    Even if other teams were going to pick him in the second round, could we not have traded our 2 seconds to move up?

    • 2damkule

      with whom?

  • Buschfire

    Wow Kyle Anderson to the Spurs….

  • brian

    This feels like an embarrassment

  • Luc

    People defending this pick by using the examples of Peja Stojakovic and Manu Ginobili should also realize that those are exceptions to the rule, maybe Bruno Caboclo will be as well. But it’s likely that he won’t be and with players like Napier on the board, I just don’t understand the pick.

    • keith

      And they already had Duncan and Webber, and Divac. Teams who already have superstars and win a lot can take these risks. I hope this kid is good but doesn’t help us this year

    • 2damkule

      do you really think it’s so much more far-fetched that bruno will be a better pro long-term than napier? what guarantee does napier bring?

  • keith

    Again, I’m not saying the kid is a bust and he’s no good. I’m saying that teams like the Spurs can take those risks. We needed players to help this team this year and even if all the commentors are wrong about how soon he can get here, he still is more than a year from being g a major contributor. We needed help NOW! It might not matter but I don’t see how this entices Lowry to want to stay. Maybe no pick would but this definitely won’t.

    • 2damkule

      perhaps, maybe, juuuust maybe…the spurs are ‘THE SPURS’ because they take those risks. because they ‘reach’ and think outside the box, and take guys like parker & manu when there are other ‘perfectly good’ college kids they could have taken instead. safer picks.

      you know what’ll entice lowry to stay? money. dollah dollah bills.

  • John

    To the people who insist on defending this pick and Ujiri just know we wasted our 20th pick in a deep draft on the Brazillian Kevin Durrant. I can’t remember Durant ever averaging 4.9 points a game which is what this stiff did last year.

    • Lazron

      To the people who don’t know what they’re talking about (you), shut up and wait and see him play

  • brian

    How does this pick help entice Lowry to stay?

    • 2damkule

      $. that’s what’ll entice KL to stay.

  • Xtremenator1

    The Raptors are reportedly trying to acquire the rights to Tyler Ennis, but doesn’t look like the deals going through as of yet. So there’s something to hope for.

  • Skeptical

    So another foreign player drafted, seemingly out of left field? The more things change…

    (That said, I actually did like the video I’ve been able to track down of this kid and my expectations for drafting a “keeper” at 20+ were rather low. Physically he seems like a freak. Hopefully he’s got a good head and strong will. Not thrilled with the pick tonight, but maybe we’ll all be more impressed in a couple of years.)

  • GoingBig

    At pick #20 I did not see a major piece to be added that would move the needle. Masai seems to be launching one for the fences.
    While Caboclo’s extreme youth hints at a larger upside, it’s going to be a longer development slog.

    That longer-term path hints at 2014-15 being a steady state year. With Lowry signed & further development of JV and TRoss(and maybe DeRozan), there will be another team-building playoff appearance. The reputation for steady management & a quality team will set the Raptors up for 2015-16 – the target year.

    2015-16 will have the lots of cap room for a big ticket free agent. And cash to keep JV and possibly a much better TRoss. And Caboclo’s upside will be another asset that can be sold.

    Pick #20 means nothing if you are taking at team from very good to elite.
    If the Raptors were merely mid-level, a standard pick would solidify the bench at most. Playing the averages, #20 nets little in value in taking the Raptors to the next level.

    Masai still has to answer questions about why he left so much on the table.
    Napier or whatever PLUS a very likely later Caboclo pick is better asset accumulation than Caboclo and the 37th pick.

    • Luc

      Agreed, Caboclo seems to have a large upside but it really is a longshot. As you said taking Napier, then hoping for Caboclo to be available at 37 would seem to be a more logical choice. Even if Caboclo was drafted before 37 then they probably could have traded for him and maybe even cleared some CAP space

  • brian

    I don’t think u have to take a risk like this at number 20. Noooooobody heard of this guy. Give me a guy with a solid pedigree. Mopete was selected in this range. Zero contribution to our team this year. Btw – the guy looks like he runs like pape sow!

  • Buschfire

    Not sure if this was already posted here is a breakdown video on Bruno from Draft Express

    http://www.draftexpress.com/video/11508/

  • Stan Asham

    Meh, if he busts, they can just send him down to play for TFC

    • tonious35

      as a GOALTENDER!!

  • macapolo

    To all raptors fans hating this pick: First off Masai is an NBA General Manager is known for scouting and an honest GM. So we know he is good with his decisions, so we should trust that for something like this not making sense doesn’t mean it would not work out? They guy is 18, who else in the draft is 18?… Let things play, This for sure will be a good turn out, I can feel it. Have trust for what is working.

  • Da Chen

    I don’t know what is everyone’s problem with the pick. NBA draft is about future.Just look through the last 10-15 drafts and see how many well-regarded players actually stays in the NBA. Remember Adam Morrison and other players?

  • nickfromtime

    is there a reason why we couldn’t have just drafted a proven wing like Hood or a budding bigman like Capela at 20 and then IF the kid Bruno wasn’t available at 37 (which would have to have been unlikely to say the least) and we wanted him sooo bad trade for him at that point? idk seems like this situation could have been navigated in a way to net us better overall talent and immediate impact over the two picks combined….

    • Lazron

      It was confirmed that he would be gone late first

  • Northbound

    Quick summary of what I was able to research and dig up.
    1. Toronto and Phoenix wanted the same players in same priority: Ennis then Bruno (remember that Phoenix had 2 picks: 18 and 27, Toronto had just 1)
    3. Leandro Barbosa played with Bruno and had insider information for this kid, which was relayed to Phoenix. Barbosa personally said this kid is a real deal
    This information based on tweets.

  • tonious35

    The kid better be the type of guy that just plays with heart and never plays timid. That’s all that it really takes. Some flaws here and there, but he better play with all his effort and heart. And Masai hates lazy people.

  • jesse

    ridiculous, unnecessary, pick. no reason to reach for an unknown and waste the 20th pick in a deep draft that had decent options.

    • 2damkule

      so dumb.

    • Lazron

      Yeah okay. Check back in a year

  • Runkulys

    Some of fans’ reaction reminds me the time, when BC drafted Valanciunas… Do not step on the same rake again… At least it will be interesting to watch a summer league :)

  • Mexiballer

    Wow. I felt bad for Dwayne Casey. He had to stand in front of the media and try and justify this pick. He only saw the guy for the first time a week ago. He doesnt even know what the guy can do. He said he would find out when they see him in summer league. By the sounds of it they were planning on taking him at 37…but when Tyler Ennis fell through they took him at 20.It sounded like a panic move from what I could tell listening to Casey. Its well worth watching. Dwayne Casey doesnt really know who this guy is. And none of the other teams have even seen him play. The post draft press conference is very revealing. Dwayne Casey is not responsible for this choice. That much is obvious.

    • asifyouknow

      I feel there is an understanding as to who is in charge of player personal….

  • asifyouknow

    The only way this makes any sense is that they already got a close door deal with Kyle and Vaz

    • RPT23

      l wish this is true, because we just gave away our 59 th pick (PG) to the Nets. But what worries me is that we were or still trying to get Tyler Ennis.

  • Truth Teller

    How could this be a panic move? GMs have backup plans. They don’t only go into the draft with plan A.

  • Rap fan 2

    I’m like probably like most Raptor fans… Bruno Caboclo …Bruno who? What?

    After listening to Masai and Coach Casey’s media scrums it sounds like it was one of those under the radar moves that the team wanted to keep hush hush. It’s possible that the Raptors probably had a deal of promise to draft Bruno and asked him not give other teams any interviews. I’m looking forward to seeing him play in the summer league.

  • ScottSegal

    This pick may be more about picking an international who would be more likely to want to stay in Canada, as opposed to an American who thinks we are a Mars outpost.

  • will2010

    ESPN’s 2010 NBA mock draft had Damion Jones at 20 (he was picked at 24) while the actual 20th pick was James Anderson (who ESPN had at 17th) and both were well regarded draft prospects in what was considered a deep draft year. By their second year both had been released by the team that drafted them or the team that acquired their rights. So it’s ridiculous for ESPN to single out Bruno Caboclo as a guy who is ready two years from two years from now when that you could arguably put on every late 1st round/2nd round player. Bruno Caboclo’s 7 foot 7 wingspan is enormous and good athleticism make him one of the highest potential player in this draft.

  • Hassan Mehmood Khan

    masai was an international scout for a long time He knows the international game well. the dude has a 7 foot 7 wing span and can shoot 3s what more can you want he could potentially be a nightmare on the defensive and offensive ends

  • Fartytits

    I thought it made sense cause he’d sign a deal overseas and we’d get him once he’d developed a couple years and get his rookie contract deeper into his prime. But apparently we’re bringing him over this year. He’s not the brazillian KD. He’s the brazillian Robb Stark. All hail the Young Wolf! King in the North! Holy shit! Naiper, who we could have chosen instead got traded to the Heat! The Lannisters send their regards

  • webfeat

    The reason nobody’s ever heard of him is because Masai wanted it that way.

    • Andre

      Total agree

  • Concerned Citizen

    I love when a foreign player is called the (insert foreign country) (player name) ie the Brazilian Durant. How many of these players work out? None that I can think of. How about the Austrailian Shaq, remember him? His name was Pape Sow. Didn’t work but at least he was a late second round pick. Oh and before someone tells me to chill and have faith let me say this: I’m 2 years away from being 2 years away from chilling and having faith in this pick.

  • dunkmycat7

    Ok, when I said CRAPSHOOT…IMO it is SO arrogant of MU to WASTE this pick on some personal vanity PROJECT when we need help at PF, SF…maybe backup PG ???. Yeah I wanted to trade out of 20 but OMFG if he was going to draft 20th then draft someone who can help NOW or at worst in 2015 – not 2025. Shabazz anyone? PJ the gunner ?The pissed off I dropped this far Rodney hood ? Come ON !!!
    I know i’m just a stupid cat dunking fan and Masai is an NBA GM paid to do this but I think this is REDICULOUS.
    For him to WASTE this ;pick on someone who cannot help this team immediately or cannot be used a piece in a blockbuster trade is on the surface just over the top STUPID. There had better be an end game here I can’t see.
    He says he is going to be on the roster in 2014 – WTF ? UN-POSSIBLE. Wanna bet my salary vrs yours ? And I love anyone trying to use his video to defend this pick when the video is done with a VHS camcorder from 1998…oh sorry it’s SUPER 8.
    THIS is the move our new GM makes in his first draft ? Trust Masai ?
    How about this:
    -ok he got rid of Bargs – but what do we have left from THAT trade ?
    -he gives way DJA for NOTHING
    -he tries to trade our BEST PLAYER KL to NYK but can’t because Dolan voids the trade
    -He TRYS to tank it by trading RG,ADMITS he has a horseshoe up his ass when the guys turn out to be players.
    Sorry all you believers but I don’t get this on ANY level – I don’t see Anything positive about this. What I see is that the Raptors wake up this morning the laughingstock of the NBA
    If MU does not resign KL, GV and P2 and make this team BETTER for 2014 then TL should fire him. And if I have to eat sh*t in 3 or 4 years because he actually becomes a player then I’M STILL RIGHT and we TOTALLY wasted an opportunity to make this team better NOW. And for all of you preaching patience and the BUILD -well careful what you wish for because I think you just got PUNKED.

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  • Lyall

    Great; we drafted a player that had ZERO workouts for our staff in person. Let’s hope he pans out like Jonas did by staying overseas to polish his game.

    • Lazron

      Please do some research. He worked out for the Raptors THREE TIMES in person. Get your head out of your ass

  • mark

    Before everyone has a brain anurism lets look at some of the Spurs picks who just helped them win a championship. How many of their fans had the same reaction to the first of their home run picks who now look like genius. Only time will tell if the gm is right or wrong.

  • Scott

    Does anyone know what his specific birth date is? I think he was born in 1995

  • Dingalingz

    So Masai “Dumbass” Ujiri gets credit for “taking risks and gambling”???? WTF I could have had my pet dick do that wtf man. What a STUPID pick! Fucking dumbass! Go back to Africa and scout Colonies you trash eater!

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