Raptors 64, Bulls 77 – Box

Five games in six nights. It sounded kind of exciting at first when the schedule came out.

Can’t have too much basketball right? Not so sure about that now. It started off promising with a win against Minnesota, but here we are four straight losses later.

For those who fall in the pro-tank crowd, at least this kills any positive momentum the team had gained after a promising start to the season. It’s kind of going swimmingly from that perspective, actually. Players are developing, the defensive effort is clearly better than last years. So the culture is going through a welcome change. It’s almost unwatchable at times, but what was less watchable were the last few years where the team flirted with being one of the worst defensively in NBA history. Wonder how things might have been different if we had a more competent coach the last few years? Maybe Chris Bosh might have stuck around? BTW, would you even want Chris Bosh on this team? Be careful what you wish for.

Chicago predictably started the game well, as it rode all five starters for the entire 1st quarter. Toronto clawed back in the second on the backs on Leandro Barbosa, Gary Forbes and James Johnson. The teams traded blows, very slowly mind you, until the fourth quarter where Derrick Rose almost reluctantly took over the game. It wasn’t pretty and that probably says more about the Bulls than it does the Raptors.

The Bulls do not strike fear into you as a team that’s 12-2 should. They are well-coached and compete every night, although they did seem to have some trouble when the Raptors turned to a zone. But it just seems like they lack that extra gear needed to finish teams off, or as evidence in the playoffs last year, step up when it counts. If only Lebron had signed up. THAT would have been a team that would be a force to reckoned with, even though Joakim Noah hasn’t progressed offensively the way some expected.

What`s up with Ed Davis? He`s been given the chance to show something the last two games, and it`s been underwhelming. He needs to play more though, 19 minutes a game is not enough for a player with his kind of potential.

Gary Forbes showed something last night. Something, as in not nothing. Is there a quality point guard hidden in there somewhere? Even though it wasn`t a big signing, Forbes looked like he might be a steal, even though he’s looked just horrible in some stretches he`s played this year. Seems like a nice guy, so let`s hope he can build on this performance. Quite a lot of rebounds and assists for 16 minutes of burn.

One thing you learn as a fan is that some players will always think they can do more than they should. Case in point, Leandro Barbosa. He carried the team offensively, but if he shot less jumpers he would have helped the team last night, and on most nights. Instead, he continues to match every nice layup with an ill-conceived jumper. It`s clear Dwayne Casey has the respect of his players thus far, but a veteran like Barbosa is probably a tougher nut to crack. It`s a slippery slope for the coach anyway, because of the lack of offensive alternatives.

Let`s end with a comment on one of the core players of this team, part of the future, DeMar DeRozan. This game did not get him out of his slump. Fifteen points on 15 shots, mainly because he took zero free throws. Not really digging this trend. You need to drive the ball DeMar. That`s your game. Just because your shot has improved doesn`t mean you need to prove it constantly. In fact, having a competent jumper should keep defenders honest and make it easier to get around them.

The Raptors now stand at 4 wins – 9 losses, yet are only 2 games out of a playoff spot. Yeah, it`s still the L-eastern conference.

  • Brian B

    Solid D is promising- but fugly at the offensive end. It looked like last season, with random shots being jacked up. The trouble with “accountability” is that when you have paper thin talent, the coach can’t simply bench the guys that won’t listen, not without running out of players.

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      I wouldn’t necessarily say that the Raptors are playing solid defense remember that teams had 2 weeks of training camp and if you look around the League you’ll see more than a handful of game where teams are getting blown out by 30 points playing b2b/b2b2b or 4 games in 5 days/7 games in 9 days while scoring 60-75 points a game on the regular so far into the season.

      All (stats) defensive numbers are skewed but the collective team effort seems to be improving- that’s promising, but it’s not equalling Ws early on in the season.

      It’s up to BC to get the coach the talent needed to compete.

    • FAQ

      Is DD doing a “vince”..???!!!!!

  • 511

    At first, I didn’t get why Phoenix gave up Barbosa for Turkoglu (esp when Turk had been, like, extra stinky) but after a while, it’s plain that while Leandro can and will singlehandedly win the odd game for you, he’ll also gamely contribute his share to a larger number of losses. When he’s hitting, he’s great to have on your side; when he’s not – unfortunately, more the norm, it seems – he’s a tunnel-visioned chucker. Still, it’s easy to imagine him helping a team that’s almost there, nearer the end of the season when he’s well-oiled and firing on more cylinders, more regularly. Which could mean, of course (and hopefully), good trade-bait. 

    • CJT

      I think you have to consider the team he is playing on.  It seems right now that the offense is simply not working well and as one of the few options on the court he is not given much of a choice than to chuck up some stinkers.  He has been asked to be the offensive spark on the second unit.  With any other options I don'[t think he would be the same player.

    • Mikey_charles

      Don’t forget the rumours about Barbosa banging Nash’s wife (which ultimately led to Nash getting a divorce)

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        That rumor was not true it was another Suns teammate- Jason Richardson, get up on game.

        • Lenny

          Jason Richardson? I thought Barbosa was straight.

      • Irene Earl

        I have to believe this is BS – I was at the Suns game at the ACC last season which was after this rumour had started – Barbosa and Nash embraced like long lost friends just before the game started.

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Hedo’s agent Lon Babby took over basketball operations in Phoenix that’s why Hedo was moved so easily to the Suns.

      Bosa has always been a gunner- didn’t you watch him play in Phoenix before?

      Trade away all the solid players- huh, for more young players, huh?

      Bosa is a solid scoring option to have off of the bench plus with that LBJ like block on Collison he’s bought into Casey’s defensive mentality as well, re-sign Bosa!

      • Wilson

        Re: “[Barbosa] has always been a gunner- didn’t you watch him play in Phoenix before?”

        His assist rate has never been as low in Phoenix as it has been in Toronto. His USG% has never been as high. His eFG% has never been as low, etc, etc. It’s nice sometimes to look at stats instead of making things up.

    • Guest

      barbosa would be a good fit for the bulls actually.   i say trade him for a second rounder of a contender

      • p00ka

        CBA says can’t do.. approx. $7M in salary has to come back

      • sek99

        That is ridiculous. You want to give up Barbosa for 60th pick most likely? I’m pretty sure we can get more than that for Barbosa. Hell, I’m pretty sure a nice ham sandwhich is good enough for 60th pick.

    • Asdfad

      if you ‘don’t get it’ then you obviously never watched the suns play.

      anyone who did knew exactly the upside/downside of LB.

  • cesco

    According to the Gazzetta dello sport , Casey said that the injury to AB is not as serious as first thought . They speculate that he could be back as early as to-morrow  ( game in Atlanta is at 4.0 p.m. on SNet , it is MLK holiday ) .

    • WHAT THE

      back as early as tomorrow why are we playing the CAVS…win or lose i’d like to see all 10 scrubbs who played the last 2 games play the next 9 games and they don’t even have to win any i’m ok with that just play like they did the last 2 lets go RAPTORS

      • cesco

        Last year the Raps won some pretty good games against play-offs bound teams with Andrea leading the charge (OKC twice , Bulls , Celtics , Orlando etc.., NY this year . Hate is destructive and makes morons out of people .

        • Lorenzo

          We swept OKC?? What the hell??

  • Daniel

    Nothing about the abyssmal 7 FT attempted and only 1 made? This must be some kind of record. All our players have problems with contact and prefer to shoot jumpers.

    • cesco

      At the start of the season , there where articles about amnesty for a certain player , who is averaging over 6 FT attempts/game and was missing yesterday . Beat me how many fans there are who are capable of typing without a brain .

      • Brian B

        Even with AB the FT totals were too low. I don’t recall anybody seriously suggesting he should be amnestied. He is a very tradeable asset, and there are those of us that think with the shortage of competent players, if the Raps could get value, Amir & ED would hold the fort with JV’s pending arrival.

        • CJT

          ED would hold the fort?  Have you watched a game this year?  I know he needs time to develop, but seriously?

        • p00ka

          I don’t know how to determine “serious” on these boards sometimes, but before the season started, a number were suggesting he be amnestied.
          Yes, there are some who think he should be used as a trade asset, just as there are others who have said it’s silly talk and backed it up with reasons, that I’ve yet to see countered well. I won’t rehash them for the umpteenth time, but ask that you, or anyone else in the “trade him” camp, suggest what trade would you suggest might be available (has to make sense for the other GM/team too right?). This at least gives a chance to discuss real scenarios rather than just a “trade him” chant with no substance..

        • cesco

          I understand that each fan is expressing his/her wish on the future of the team . But the reality in all professional sports is that you cannot rebuild forever otherwise the few fans that remains will lose hope also . Thus a GM will continue the rebuilding around his best player ( like it happened with CB4 ) . I believe that is an inescapable fact . JV is a project , Ed and DD  have regressed this year so far . This show you the need of leaders ( Andrea and Jose ) to give them more time to develop . Are you getting any leader in a trade for Andrea , I don’t think so . 

          • Nilanka15

            Andrea’s been a “leader” for a whopping 10 games. Nobody is concerned about losing Bargnani’s leadership.

            • cesco

              He started out last year by taking over the main scoring option mantra . Had he failed ,  he would have been traded by now .

              • Nilanka15

                Being the main scoring option is not the same thing as being a leader.

              • Asdfad

                cesco, you simply have to stop posting on this forum. you know about as much about basketball as doug smith.

                stop. posting. 

      • Rapfan

        Cesco- I’m now your fan!

        • cesco

          Thanks , we are all fans ( with a few exceptions like FAQ 0-66 ) of our beloved team .

          • FAQ

            0-66….but subject to adjustment… 4-62 sound better to you??!!!!

            • Seeten

              Lets be realistic. 12-54

      • Nilanka15

        What does Daniel’s post have to do with your hero???

        • p00ka

          “all our players….” includes AB I believe, in a discussion about lack of FTs. Yes, Daniel started his post referring to the game itself, but the concluding statement appears to paint a wider swath, which cesco responded to. It would seem.

      • WHAT THE

        it’s ok you can say his name…I think the player that you talking about read that article too and it could be the reason for the way he has played so far just saying

  • Nilanka15

    For a change, I decided to watch Chicago’s WGN broadcast last night. A few things:

    – They seem to think Deng is an all-star this year. Yikes.
    – A lot of subtle shots at Calderon (as hinted in the Roll Call). They were almost laughing at the idea of Calderon trying to guard Rose.
    – They couldn’t understand why Butler was getting any minutes at all.
    – A front court of Amir, Ed, and Butler is basically playing 2 on 5 on the offensive end.
    – Since the game was close for 3 quarters, they assumed the Bulls were playing to the level of their competition.
    – A pregame online fan poll asked if the Bulls will hold the Raptors to under 85 points. The results were revealed late in the 4th quarter where 90% said ‘yes’, lol. But they failed to acknowledge that the Raptors did the same to the Bulls.
    – After a few questionable shot attempts by JJ, they claimed “that’s why he’s a Toronto Raptor”.

    All in all, it’s refreshing to hear outsiders views on the team…even if they’re ignorant views.

    • p00ka

      First time I’ve ever heard ignorant is refreshing. How does that work?

      • Nilanka15

        Different is refreshing, even if it comes from folks who aren’t as familiar with the Raptors as we are.

    • ad

      Cant say i disagree with all those statements. 1) Esp the one about the 3-4-5 of Butler, Ed, and Amir. Butler is awful. Amir is a a backup PF but paid more than he should be thanks to our GM. Hopefully Ed’s offense will improve but if it doesnt his ceiling is Amir Johnson. 2) Calderon has been pretty underwhelming the past cpl of seasons. He’s played better this year but seems to be slowing down probably because of all the games. 3) Calling James Johnson a “toronto raptor” for taking a bad shot tells you all you need to know of the perception of this team around the league. This team has regularly been one of the worst teams in the league since its inception despite strong fan support

      • Copywryter

        Ed does not have the motor or toughness of Amir Johnson. If his offense does not improve his ceiling is in the basement.

    • Lorenzo

      How do you watch American broadcasts? I’m getting sick of Jack Armstrong’s voice.

  • Nilanka15

    Does anyone else feel like Ed Davis’ ceiling is Taj Gibson?

    • KJ-B

      His ceiling is Dwayne Casey!  Funny how when English/Triano showed faith in the young players that they played out of their skin!

      • WHAT THE

        listen getting our leader who is out with this fake injury/flu to LOOK like an NBA allstar is CASEYS main concern as it will extend his time here as coach worrying about DD,ED,AMIR does nothing for him but get him in the unemployment line and a laughing stock around the NBA so it’s lets get the leader to look like DIRK 2.0 and his job is safe now i ask what would you do 

        • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

          I bet Casey said to BC that he can make AB play Dirk like and that in part got him the Raptors job.

          This team should be renamed the Toronto Bargnanis as everything is catered towards to this historically lethargic, half ass, spoiled brat, golden child, enigma of BC’s.

          AB’s seemingly playing hard, so hard he hurt himself even though he should be in solid game shape because he was playing overseas during the lockout, for all of 11 games and some fans get excited after 5 years of BullChit? Wow.

          Is AB’s breakout year going to be year 7? 8? 9? 10?

          BC has bamboozled, hoodwinked, led astray the Raptors fan base in relation to AB- Pasta!

          • WHAT THE

            Thats how i think it went down too and now you have EDs agent calling wanting to know wtf is going on with the playing time for ED should he be looking for a trade or what because the raptors have 1500 pf and 1 more coming next year JV so like any good agent/and his daddy would do he calls up HIGH COLLER to see wtf was up remember his daddy aint no fool there are 29 other NBA teams in his country so now Casey might be a little upset that Eddie complained to his daddy/agent…. so now they pull Dirk 2.0 out with a FAKE injury so they can showcase ED and trade him

            • cesco

              The truth is , his daddy is calling Casey and begging  him to help his son grow some balls , he tried but his son cried to easily when he gave him sh*t .

    • Triano?

      Ed Davis is Dale Davis with a softer touch.  That will win you basketball games (something a seven-foot Italian won’t).

    • onemanweave

      If Ed Davis ever reaches that ‘ceiling’, he’ll be a welcome long term addition. Gibson is a terrific energy player.

  • jlongs

    the only guy who isn’t scared to take it straight to the hole: barbosa. problem is, like the article says, he seems to take just as many ill-advised long jumpers or sometimes forces things too much. so it’s basically a wash.

    i’m starting to think derozan is exactly like vince 2.0 lite. he worked extra hard on his jumper just so he wouldn’t have to drive and take contact anymore.  it doesnt help when you groan everytime you drive while doing a circus shot, as if to bait the refs into calling a foul. now the refs are immune to those groans and will keep swallowing the whistle.

    the game wasn’t really a surprise. the raptors have trouble scoring, specially without their only real scorer in bargnani. combine that with a good defensive opponent and you get low point total. 

    it’s also getting pretty clear to me that the ‘core’ that everyone has been talking about, might just not cut it after all. derozan and ed aren’t showing any signs of having ‘it’ in them. that leaves us with a motivated (so far) bargs, jv, and a lottery pick. there’s still hope there i guess…

    • p00ka

      Yeah, DD and ED are looking like no more than serviceable (at best) backups on a quality team so far, but the silver lining is cheap, young and time to grow. Bargs, JV and lottery pick aren’t the only promising assets though. Huge financial flexibility to enable a quality FA signing or trade scenario is also waiting for the right opportunity. I just hope BC stays the course and is patient with that $ flex.

  • jlongs

    the only guy who isn’t scared to take it straight to the hole: barbosa. problem is, like the article says, he seems to take just as many ill-advised long jumpers or sometimes forces things too much. so it’s basically a wash.

    i’m starting to think derozan is exactly like vince 2.0 lite. he worked extra hard on his jumper just so he wouldn’t have to drive and take contact anymore.  it doesnt help when you groan everytime you drive while doing a circus shot, as if to bait the refs into calling a foul. now the refs are immune to those groans and will keep swallowing the whistle.

    the game wasn’t really a surprise. the raptors have trouble scoring, specially without their only real scorer in bargnani. combine that with a good defensive opponent and you get low point total. 

    it’s also getting pretty clear to me that the ‘core’ that everyone has been talking about, might just not cut it after all. derozan and ed aren’t showing any signs of having ‘it’ in them. that leaves us with a motivated (so far) bargs, jv, and a lottery pick. there’s still hope there i guess…

    • jlongs

      oops sorry about the double post

  • Roarque

    There’s something wrong with Ed Davis – no kidding. Watch him walk past Dwane, they don’t acknowledge each other. Too bad, he’s a gutsy prospect with a defensive edge that I admired last season. Some team is going to make him a fixture in their system.

    Casey might as well be talking French to him.

    • p00ka

      I thought ED pretty much always at that stone face, non communication manner about him last year and it was very noticeable. With the promise he showed as a rookie, I took it as he just means business all the time and it was a positive. His play certainly doesn’t show that so far though.

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Well, Casey calls him Eddie, Ed doesn’t like to be called Eddie, as well it seems as if Davis has become entrenched in Casey’s doghouse for whatever reasons.

      I posted before that Eddie seemingly has a beef with Casey but some posters attacked me saying I didn’t know what I was talking about even thought it was repoorted that Ed & Casey had a meeting to discuss his play.

      Ed’s minutes with AB out are befuddling 30 minutes against Indiana then 17 minutes the next nite against Chicago- player development?

      How would you feel if last year’s center now wants to be a PF and steals your & Amir’s natural PF position resulting in you getting inconsistent minutes even though defense is your forte’?

      Then Casey saying he will play you only as a PF but then giving AB, when healthy, almost all the PF game minutes?

      Maybe there’s something wrong with Casey- he didn’t get along with KG in Minnesota either?

      • p00ka

        Where did you hear ED doesn’t like to be called Eddie? Talking out of your butt hole again? And are you saying Casey is the kind of classless man that would go out of his way to piss off one of his players in such a childish way? (if in fact ED doesn’t like the name)

        ED has a beef with Casey because the coach had a meeting with him to discuss his very apparent poor play? You’re kidding right? If true (can’t imagine) then ED needs to grow up and start earning his salary as an adult.

        You’re still bring out the senseless “AB is stealing EDs minutes”? It’s tough when you keep running out of options for bait, aye.

        I don’t know what punkass KG has to do with how Casey is handling the Raptors, but if whatever problem you say he had with KG that many years ago relates to KG and his classless, punk antics, I applaud Casey.

      • 511

        You might have something there. Don’t remember when it was or where I saw it but I do remember reading that Ed doesn’t like to be called ‘Eddie’. And Casey refers to him as ‘Eddie’ all the time. On its own, it’s not likely a good enough reason for serious discord between them (if it’s there), but it’s not impossible that it’s a symptom of things gone wrong. 

        Ed might need to get himself refocused (or re-something’d), it’s true, but … maybe Casey should find out how much it bothers Ed to be called ‘Eddie’, and if it does, cut that shit out. I mean, maybe it’d be a start. 

        • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

          I saw Ed Davis in an interview on RaptorsTV and he said that he doesn’t like to be called Eddie.

          In the presser’s it’s always Eddie this or Eddie that.lol

          Got to start somewhere- respect what name a man wants to be called by- if there’s a problem they need to solve it asap (communication).

          • Raps4Ever

    • Copywryter

      When Davis was rehabbing and riding the D-league bus last year we saw hints of what we’re getting now – a sulking and petulant kid who isn’t used to adversity or criticism. I hope he grows up and out of it. 

  • JHP

    I guess DD abd Davis want to move on.  Hopefully they have some trade value.  I would not be surprised to see Alabi/2n Round Pick/Davis moved sooner then later.  Of course knowing BC he’d only want a trade exception back in return lol

    • WHAT THE

      29 other teams in his country of birth do you think he has a chance of getting on  one of them?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SJT6LQ6HZQWMPJMT22LTN24UUY Antonino Ferraro

    19 minutes is not enough for Ed Davis? Come on. 19 minutes is enough to show the talent. And most important thing he is in a team that give him plenty of time per game to improve. But until now I didn’t see improvement in his games. I don’t know if is the classical sophomore struggle or there something between the coach and him, or he is in difficulty to play in the Casey’s system.

    • p00ka

      It’s sure puzzling, isn’t it? I hope the coaches have a better finger on what the problem is.

      • Matt

        I got Ed for my fantasy team and actually paid a lot for him thinking he will get Double, Double for sure this season and …. He has been disappointing so far and I can not recall ANY PLAYER in the league who digressed from his first to 2nd year this much.

        • WHAT THE

          i hope you got the player who is out with that FAKE injury on your team,he should be back from that cold/flu just in time for the CAVS or WIZ game

          • Lorenzo

            You’re the ugliest kid i know.

      • cesco

        I believe both Ed and DD are intimidated by Casey . You can think that these two have been spoiled until now . Andrea for example had to survive the Smitch years . It is up to them to show that they have cojones and not little girls characteristics .

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    I find it believeable that AB faked his injury and just quit on the Raptors once again ala Post London because he was getting worn out playing major minutes in the early part of the season…..he about as much of a leader as a toy boy feeder.

    Btw when the Raptors went zone against Sacramento it was AB’s side (left block) of the zone that was getting broken down for points by the Kings. You can’t hide him in a zone as Casey will soon find out once AB’s strained calf is healthy (wink, wink).

    Trade high………..

    • WHAT THE

      thats frigging desertion if you ask me he got his allstar numbers after 5 years and 10 games against those power house CAVS,WIZ,and NY without Stats our leader lol

    • WHAT THE

      if you feel that you are doing the complicated stuff at work and then your boss comes along and demand more (rebound 2 per quater every fu**ing game) wouldn’t you call in sick too

      • cesco

        I believe that if he pays you 10 mil/year you better have a doctor note when you go back to work or else .

        • WHAT THE

          not if your daddy runs the company

  • Matt

    I know this is ONLY 11-12 games in the season BUT the lack of development in players such as :

    DD, Bayless, Ed Davis, ames Johnson and Alabi

    is quite scary !! Lets face it , if these guys don’t make any significant improvements then:

    1) Going forward we ONLY have AB,Calderon and Amir that can be consider dependable players.

    2) BC’s draft resume could be very alarming with DD and Ed and even worries me about Val and who ever he is going to draft this year !!

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Alex English was the Raptors Director of Player Development which saw Amir gain a reliable ft elbow jumper & increased his ft %.

      I believe that Alex would be very beneficial for Ed’s development as well as JJ, DD, JB & Alabi but for whatever reason(s) Casey didn’t retain him but brought back Nori, Hughes & Roth to go along with Sterner & JDavis. 

      AB & Jose are injury prone not too dependable over 82 games.

      Amir, whose legs are extra skinny, is getting beat up by centers every game he may eventually break down due the wear & tear as well.

      Val, whom Casey called a PF that they hope will grow into a NBA center, is a project that is at least 3 years away from being a solid NBA big man imo.

      I don’t see Val beating out AB, Ed nor Amir in a 3 man power rotation for minutes in the near future unless BC dictates it or a trade is made to accommodate Val’s rotation spot.

      Also, the Raptors currently have no experienced ex NBA big man on their coaching staff so how do they expect to completely develop their young bigs like Ed & Val (even Amir)?

      • KJ-B

        Honestly, every1’s talking around it but I’ll keep saying iT–Coach Dwayne Casey canNOT coach ‘O’ at the NBA level!  He’s not got a clue and he has a strong desire to not coach/mentor young gunz–Remember how much run Triano gave to the “Young Onez”…

        Not that I was a fan of the name or Sonny the Chuckster, for that matter who completely forgot what worked for him from his 1st yr with da Raps BUT the young guyz were not benched in favor of D-League level vets of which, we have 3 or 4 $TEALING minute$…

        I continue to ask, did we really give up Triano, and correspondingly Coach English, for THIS?!??!

        • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

          Casey is a great defensive coach, as I followed the Sonics all of my life, that can come up with defensive schemes & principals but is lacking in his offensive basketball cognivity- why sit a hot DD against Indiana so long?

          Casey would be a great lead assistant or defensive assistant coach but as a head coach he’s out of his element managing personalities among the many other head coaching particulars.

          BC wanted to go defense and he goes all defense 9would have drafted BBiyombo if Val was off board) just like Jay was all offense- no balance- as team gotta compete on both ends of the court effectively to shake off this losing basketball culture instilled in the TDot under BC.

          Traino (a petty individual who wouldn’t even shake CB’s hand) is a solid assistant but is not a good head coach for the NBA especially when all you do is what BC tells you to do while holding no one accountable except those who speak out in the media ala AWright.

          A Raptors coaching staff with Jay (offense) & Dwane (defense) as assistant coaches would be solid but I’m not the GM nor President of the Raptors.

          I hope Sonny Weems comes back to the TDot next season as his personality was good for the roster & DD imo.

          Alex English, a class act plus NBA legend & hall of famer, should have never been let go…smdh

        • j bean

          Maybe you missed seeing the games last year. Triano, English and and the genius offensive strategies were outscored in 60 of the 82 games played.

          • WHAT THE

            i wonder how many they’ll be out scored in this season with our fearless leader and his new baby sitter should be about 20

  • Copywryter

    “You need to drive the ball DeMar. That`s your game. Just because your shot has improved doesn`t mean you need to prove it constantly.”

    I disagree with this. DeMar is very athletic, but he doesn’t have great ballhandling skills, an explosive first step, or even elite finishing skills (VC had two of those three). His game is driving without the ball and coming off curls and screens that give him the separation he needs. I think DD is what he’s going to be.

    • RobertArchibald

      Agree completely. We’re asking too much of DeMar. He excels in up-tempo, fast-break basketball. I think the reason he is so-called ‘settling’ for jumpers is because he doesn’t have the first-step nor handles needed to create and get to the hole easily. If you notice when he does drive, he’s contested heavily at the rim because he’s failed to get a step on his defender. Therefore, he has tougher finishes and doesn’t get the benefit of numerous foul calls.

  • KJ-B

    64 Points People!!!!! If you STILL think Dwayne Casey is Red Auerabach, reconsider the facts!!! 

    • Seeten

      At some point, you need players with at least a modicum of talent to score points in the NBA, especially against the NBA’s best defense.

  • Rpsfan95

    expectations are too high for Davis, remember that this guy was taken at #13 and was an attempt by BC to outsmart everyone by taking a chance on a injured player whose stock had fallen

    • Matt

      Come on now, you can not use the #13 excuse here. Davis was advertise as a STEAL, a guy who should have been 6 or 7 in that draft. Plus, all everyone is doing is comparing him to last year where he was much more relax and was playing much better. 

      Davis not only did not improve, I think took few steps back !! That is unacceptable.

      Looking at DD and Davis, I am staring to get worried about VAL and who ever BC is going to get this year !! I am wondering if BC has LOST his touch in the DRAFT. We are at the stage that we CANNOT afford messing DRAFT picks or this rebuild process is going to take a VERY LONG TIME.

  • p00ka

    lmao if it wasn’t so pitiful. BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!, WHAT_THE, and KJ-B, are likely all the same little weasel supporting “each other” in his pathetic games. He’ll probably pull out his 4th tag p00ka_is_a_fish soon too. Pitiful, really pitiful.

    • Lorenzo

      Yeah i keep getting the feeling that they are all the same person..

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        Wow, I think that you need to get some fresh air then get a life, buddy.lmfao

        You win the ‘I am stuck on stu[pid’ badge for today- congrats & blissfully enjoy…….. 

        • andrea”drake”bargnani

          hahaha that “stuck on stupid badge” always gets me rolling

        • Lorenzo

          Ouch… my self-esteem just took a hit… lol…

  • FAQ

    The Bull’s game strategy was to practice their defensive skills against the Raptors so that their defense would ultimately win the game.

    The extra defensive effort affected their scoring in the first half, as it did the Raptors, but in the second half the Raptor’s defensive effort killed their offensive output in the second half.

    It’s a simple algorithm:

    0.5 Offense + 0.5 Defense = Game

    0.7 Offense + 0.3 Defense = Game

    0.3 Offense + 0.7 Defense = Game

    What happened to the Raptors is:

    0.3 Offense + 0.5 Defense = 0.8 Game… and a loss.

  • WHAT THE

    pook is leaving the sandbox he’s taking his ball and heading home lol and here is something from SLEEPZ lol,lol,lol

  • Raps

    BC did good in the past few drafts. I think you guys forgot about the long ass lockout and the extremely short training camp. The players will start to improve, D Case is not even close to done teaching all his stuff. By the end of the season we’ll be much more improved. Then by summer we’ll have a full training camp with our Franchise SF and JV and hopefully Kabongo. Then we sign felton and make the playoffs and win for the next couple of season and win a championship

  • Lorenzo

    Off topic..

    Does anybody else think we have a chance at getting Deron Williams this off-season?

    • WHAT THE

      no only you

      • Lorenzo

        Never said i did genius, i think you need to take it easy there fonzi, it’s just the internet… lol

    • Nilanka15

      No, don’t think so.

      Unless, Colangelo pulls some trades before the deadline, that actually makes this team look attractive to prospective free agents this summer, combined with 1 (or 2) solid draft picks. 

      For all of Colangelo’s faults, the guy can sell ice to an Eskimo.  Convincing anyone to take on Araujo or Turkoglu (regardless of the circumstances that brought those players to Toronto) are remarkable feats.

  • Noemail

    Raptors need a PG that can breakdown opponents defence & create shot for himself Jose is a half court set point guard..if you notice alot of teams shut him down he holds the ball till the last sec  

    • Copywryter

      While I agree, the ability to create your own shot is a very, very rare thing in the NBA, even among point guards. Most PGs who can create their own shot cannot do so and see the court and/or run the offense at the same time. Bayless and Jarrett Jack fall into this category. The PGs who can do all three are elites and thus very hard to come by. 

      • Raps4ever

        very