Detroit Pistons 75 Final
Recap | Box Score
82 Toronto Raptors
Andrea Bargnani, F 24 MIN | 1-5 FG | 4-4 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 7 PTS | -5

This guy loves his long twos. Hesitant whenever he was out there, nary an impact. He’s got to turn things around if he’s ever to make the Hall of Fame. He did actually move better on defense and seemed to be on the same page as Jonas in terms of defense. Now the PGs got to be on the same page.

Jonas Valanciunas, C 29 MIN | 4-7 FG | 3-3 FT | 8 REB | 1 AST | 11 PTS | -2

That’s more like it! Looking forward to seeing him bust his ass every night on both ends of the floor. Great rolls all night where he finished at the rim when he had plenty of work to do after the catch. Ran the floor well and got back on D to deny some hoops – the defense clearly thinks about him when he’s in there. Conditioning looked much better, and so was that sweeeet hook late on. Bonus points for playing the pick ‘n roll on defense so well when he was matched up against the guards.

Jose Calderon, G 14 MIN | 0-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 3 AST | 0 PTS | -6

Tight hamstring, tighter wife. Missed all three shots and wasn’t able to fire up the offense like he did in the last game. The hamstring bothered him right from the start and good thing Casey shut him down. Cause for concern? Hell no, we got Lucas.

DeMar DeRozan, G 21 MIN | 5-11 FG | 4-5 FT | 1 REB | 1 AST | 14 PTS | -4

I’m going to totally ignore the five turnovers, the rejection at the rim and all those times he couldn’t finish in traffic and focus on the four made mid-range jumpers. That’s his game, that’s what he’s got to hone, because that’s what’s going to get him paid. His box score line is going to be very predictable this season. He’ll probably be the guy who gets to the line the most, and the only question is whether he’ll shoot close to .500 or not. 42% won’t cut it.

Landry Fields, G 23 MIN | 2-7 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 4 PTS | -6

A bit concerned that he’s missing some good looks from three, so far it’s a continuation of his second year more than a reversion to his first. The defensive focus was better than in Detroit and he was bothered enough to pick up three fouls. Despite the sub-par production, you can see that he’s going to get consistent minutes all season because the Raptors don’t really have another three.

Alan Anderson, F 27 MIN | 2-4 FG | 4-4 FT | 5 REB | 1 AST | 9 PTS | +11

A tidy game, good defense right from the start, nothing was forced and he gave what Casey expects of him. Couple of turnovers, rather unforced, was the only blemish in his game.

Ed Davis, F 18 MIN | 5-8 FG | 2-2 FT | 6 REB | 0 AST | 12 PTS | +11

Got his chance against a relatively Drummond-free Detroit bench and made the most of it. Activity around the rim will lead to points and if he can hit those little 2-6 foot shots, he’s going to be a contributor. He’s an above-average rebounder at his position, but what will get him minutes on this team is if he can bring something it on offense.

Linas Kleiza, F 6 MIN | 2-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 5 PTS | +1

Got some burn in the fourth and played like it was Game 7 of the NBA finals. Keep translating shit for Jonas, that’s his main job. A+ in my books.

Aaron Gray, C 4 MIN | 1-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 2 PTS | +3

Another guy who got 4Q-only burn. In the regular season that means you’re special, in the pre-season it means you’re “special”. Did you see that reverse layup on that cut to the rim?

Amir Johnson, C 15 MIN | 2-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 4 PTS | +6

I’d say he was more interested in this game than the last, and the activity on defense was great. Actually, for a stretch there in the first half he was DPOY. Casey cut his minutes which was a wise decision because he’s always been a slow starter so there’s no need to push him.

Terrence Ross, G 25 MIN | 1-7 FG | 2-2 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 5 PTS | +13

Lots of useless dribbles and pull-ups that either fell well short or got blocked. Focusing on the spot-up shooting would be wiser. Did hit a key jumper late on. Not a good game overall.

Jerel McNeal, G 6 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 2 AST | 0 PTS | -1

He came, he saw, he passed up an open shot to get an assist.

John Lucas, G 29 MIN | 3-10 FG | 2-2 FT | 1 REB | 8 AST | 9 PTS | +14

Casey called him the “spirit of our team”. Prediction: he’ll be the official backup point guard by December. The guy is crafty, can obviously score, and reminds me of a poor man’s Nick Van Exel. I like how he does what he does without looking like a douchebag.

Five Things We Saw

  1. Casey preached defense before the game and that’s what we saw. The lethargy of the first quarter in Detroit was wrought out of the system and replaced with a focus that needs to be present in every game for 42 out of 48 minutes if this team is to do anything close to respectable.
  2. Valanciunas’ defensive energy and concentration does not dip. I know it’s only two games but this guy hasn’t “switched off” on defense for a second in the two games I’ve seen.
  3. The guards and bigs aren’t really on the same page, and you notice that with bad entry passes, missed lobs, broken high-screens etc. I’d say that’s priority #1 on offense for the rest of the season.
  4. Maggette, Villanueva, and Jerebko did not play. Drummond only got 6 minutes. Those guys had given us some trouble in Detroit.
  5. Turnovers everywhere – 18 by Toronto, 22 by Detroit. The rebounding was much better and the Raptors were only -4 overall.

  • losraptors

    Out of shape and indifferent? I know it is only preseason, but Bargnani doesn’t do much to help build his case

    • 2damkule

      maybe he’s trolling us?

    • cesco

       What case is that ? , the preseason games do not count for anything except to get the team ready for the regular season . That steal at the perimeter was a thing of beauty , too bad DD cannot make a pass back on a break-away , that is the second time , yesterday with Val , to-day with Andrea . Andrea was under the basket , unguarded .

      • KJ-B

        Not so sure, 2 years ago, Derrick Rose dominated the raps in the playoffs and you were like, shoot, he developed a J and he’s gonna be unstoppable then won MVP… Steve Nash’s 1st year with the Suns + they were rolling up 130+ point games on folks and then averaged near 110 ppg in reg season and won the MVP! 

        Michael Jordan, I saw him when he played in the skydome vs the Kings in “92 , and Walt “the Wizard” Williams was their 5th overall pick–him & Pippen had a dunk off in the warm up–ALWAYS played hard because he knew folks paid $$$ to see him…I don’t buy it’s “Practice” argument unless he’s as skilled or fearless as AI –the tough as nails QB– no more “preseason” passes for #7…the League has caught on to him! 

        • KJ-B

          SORRY: “DRose dominated Raps in the preseason”

        • unknown guest

          What!?! That’s absurd!!!
          Are you stating that just because guys like Steve Nash and Kobe Bryant always keep their bodies in optimum shape, even during the off-season, that AB should somehowdo the same? Or that a person who has been vilified like LeBron James would call up his on court nemesis Kevin Durant, for an off-season “hell week” to get in shape even BEFORE pre-season starts, then somehow, somewhere, AB should be doing the same thing?Maybe, just maybe, are you also saying that top tier mega stars who are deemed legendary winners, like MJ, ALWAYS stay in top shape and ALWAYS compete, and that AB should have that mentality?Is that what you’re trying to say?

        • p00ka

          You’re another mouthpiece that likes to spout selective memory to use in proof of your opinions, with zero attention paid to like, or not, circumstances. Life in the NBA, just like life in general, doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Which of these priceless examples you give involved a player coming back from a summer of rehabbing of a season ending injury, where the coach has very clearly stated that preseason for AB is about getting into shape (ie. not beasting it). And chill on “ALWAYS played hard because he knew folks paid $$$ to see him” rhetoric. That’s simply not the case when it comes to preseason, about anybody, or were you born yesterday?

          • KJ-B

            Dwyane Wade ’08 Olympics after having knee and shoulder surgery…soorry dude, the jig is up with #7 and HIStory is against your dude…so sorry that DeMar put work in and #7 is moving slower than molasses–it’s ok, #7 will make a great bench player-because he’s a specialist and that’s what happens in the NBA outside of MLSE.

            • p00ka

              Olympics. Yeah, that’s up their with training camp friendlies.

          • KJ-B

            re: MJ, if you’ve ever seen his interviews, repeatedly talks of the pressure of being “Michael Jordan” even in preseason, he HAD to perform…basketball was his theatre of sorts, and he never called in the understudy to his work!

            • p00ka

              Interviews. Oh, okay.

  • Lorenzo

    Will AltRaps be returning for the roll calls?

  • TheR3dMenace

    Can we get a Roll Call up in this B?

  • 2damkule

    good to see ed have a nice bounce back, his involvement tonight was like night/day vs. wed.

    as always, expectations should be tempered, but some nice signs from a few guys.

    • losraptors

      Yeah, I hope Ed gets off to a hot start this year so he can get some minutes at PF despite the glut of bodies

      • cesco

         He got lucky , Drummond only played 5 minutes .

  • j bean

    Agree with most of your grades except for Ross. Outside of looking bad on a few shots he played better D than last game and was +13 if that means anything. I’d give him a C+. All three centers A+ who were great blocking up the inside lanes. If Lucas is third string he is the best third stringer in the league.

  • EmarErozan

    Bam bam bam-bam-bam
    Trade Bargnani
    Bam bam bam-bam-bam
    trade Bargnani

    • cesco

       Bam bam pat-a-poum , that is impossible , bam bam pat-a-poum .

      • EmarErozan

        I was just stirring it up. Maybe having a real centre will help Bargnani. Playing mostly from the midrange and down (like Dirk) will also help. I like Barg’s offensive game in areas where he never has to dribble more than once.

    • NyAlesund

       Do you know the magic word “pre-season”?

      In this period of time is important to see how the new addition/rookie play, to create hierachies and rotations.

      If we want to trade AB we have to wait at least a couple of months not now. It does make a sense, and allow me to say to listen the Casey’s interview.

      • what the

        So what you’re saying is AB13 will be beasting come opening night like he did last year? to me and all raptors fan it looks like AB13 is ready to put this team on his back and take it to the next level,I’m also loving how he’s spreading the floor for his teammates and with a healty AB13 and a full training camp under Casey I can’t wait for opening night.

        • 511

          It might be a bit of a ‘perfect world’ scenario, but what you say here is partially how I’m (optimistically, but not ridiculously) thinking it could play out. If Bargs was doing the 13 game beast-mode thing right now (which he’s probably not ready for yet, anyway) during pre-season, we’d not be seeing as much of the other weapons that we’re currently seeing in early development. Once the season starts, I expect Bargnani to be closer to what he was – during those 13 games – but as it’s a different team now, with a very different pg situation and with JV in the middle, as well as a strengthened DeRozan and others who might be ready to contribute more, I suspect we won’t need Bargnani to carry the whole load the way it looked like he did during those 13, last year. That said, it’s not unlikely that there will be games when the team will NEED Bargnani to take over … and if and when he does bring it like that (as necessary … and I’m thinking he will if-and-when), well, that, combined with the better defensive coordination that we saw some of last night, we might be talking about a team that can legitimately shoot for the playoffs. 

          • cesco

            +1 , Andrea game will evolve with the new firepower and defense ( Jonas and Kyle) the starting line-up is acquiring . He will do everything in his capacity to help the team reach the playoffs .

  • cesco

    Some people here thinks it will take Jonas 3 years to become a quality center , it looks like it will be 3 months , maybe even 3 weeks .

  • Thetruth

    Remember Destro saying that Valanciunas is a terrible pick. Somewhere he’s eating his words. Bandwagon full Destro. 

    • nba_socrates

      11 points, when Drummond wasnt even in the game to shut him down come on

      • cesco

        Drummond would have been playing against Ed , Amir and Gray . Monroe and Jonas were/are the two starting centers .

      • CJT

        Did you happen to notice that as a result of limiting PG penetration, Drummond was unable to affect the game on the offensive end AT ALL!  He has no game outside of catching lobs.  He looked aweful last night.  No rebounds. etc.  Feel free to take back everything you said over the last few days.  Nutsack.

        • nba_socrates

          FAIL.. this guy played only 5 minutes and when he was in he blocked a shot (get that junk outta here) moment and made a strong and 1 move. Watch the game before you comment. And Terrence Ross was soo bad, why draft this weakling over Drummond i do not know.

          • CJT

            i was at the game.  You didn’t seem to think that val’s 4 blocks in 10 minutes was important yesterday.  In other words you’re a double talking dickweed

            • nba_socrates

              Ive got nothing against Val

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XHJKFMCGSMBEQGBRKJVLKUGSEQ john g

         So I guess Monroe isn’t as good as Drummond lol. Your not making yourself look good with these stupid arguments

        • nba_socrates

          Not a better defender no!

    • Lorenzo

       Who cares

  • nba_socrates

    Why get overly excited for this meaningless win? The only player who played well was John Lucas who has been terrific soo far. On another note if Drummond got more than the 5 minutes he was allocated, it would have been a loss for the Raps. Did you see his block and that 3 point play opportunity! this guy is the real deal.

    • Lorenzo

       Do you live in Michigan?

      • nba_socrates

        Just telling you to forget the season unless a miracle blockbuster trade is made

    • NyAlesund

      Are you the same person that celebrated Drummond’s game two days ago? I want to understand from you when the game is meaningless or not!!!!
      It’s depend whether or not how many minutes Drummond plays?

      Do not recognise how Val played well and puts and hook shot down the stretch? Do not meaning nothing for you the effort what did Val on both side of the court? Or for you the other Pistons’ big fellas are not talented enough to consider the Rapts performance?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XHJKFMCGSMBEQGBRKJVLKUGSEQ john g

      So your saying don’t get excited over a meaningless win yet your getting a boner over a circus shot by Drummond when he got two points and MISSED the free throw as usual.

      • nba_socrates

        He has all the tools the raptors have been lacking for years.Colangelo and his team should be ashamed passing this gem. To make matters even worse they drafted the wrong Terrence

      • CJT

        I think he actually hit the shot clock on the freethrow.  You gotta love a guy who pulls a 180 on his arguments in 24 hours.  Drummond looked so bad last night, standing around not sure what to do on offense.  Completely not effect on the game at all.  I will say that he is huge, and very strong and you can’t teach that, but he needs to learn everything else. 

        • john g

          And the way Drummd runs the floor. He does these little jogs back like he doesn’t even want to get back on defense. Looking at Val, I was really impressed by how well he runs the floor in transition and dives deep into the post leaving helping to open driving lanes.

          • CJT

            It is interesting, he tries so hard to get offensive rebounds that he puts himself in some bad positions for getting back on D.  I think Jerebco ended up getting a few easy baskets in the first game because of it.  But I love the effort.

            • nba_socrates

              You are trying soo hard to find flaws in Drummonds game when hes nothing but simply a beast. Hate on BC for not drafting him not the other way around

              • CJT

                I don’t care about Drummond at all.  I didn’t want him on the team and am glad that we didn’t draft him.  No hate for BC on this one. I agree that he has no skills and he IS a beast and you can’t teach that.  But that is not going to carry him very far especially if he is as mentally unstable as his scouting reports made him out to be.  

                • nba_socrates

                  No skills? His ability to finish high above the rim, ability to make point guards job easier, as quoted by will bynum himself, abilty to get offensive rebounds, shot blocking capabilities, all these i consider skills.
                  Mentally unstable? When has that ever been a problem in the NBA really, if you can ball you can ball. Rodman, World Peace, Delonte West all have mental issues but when it comes down to it they performed. And from Drummonds interviews he seems like a cheerful young man soo that assessment is flawed.
                  I suggest you go on youtube and watch his highlights against Milwaukee before you spit blasphemy.

          • nba_socrates

            Drummond & Val no comparison. Val is nice but Drummond is a beast, i mean if they Drafted Drummond they could have played together and made Bargs expendable at some point. But Colangelo is scared of a project yet he drafts Ross who we have no need for and if he was out we wont even miss.

            • Nilanka15

              If by “beast” you mean “pylon”, then I completely agree :p

              • nba_socrates

                Go and ask Ilyasova who was dunked all over on last night whether hes a pylon or not. Unfortunately raptors rooster is filled with what you just described

                • Nilanka15

                  I asked Ersan.  He confirmed Drummond’s a pylon.

  • hateslosing

    Calderon and one of the bigs are gone by Christmas, hopefully for a better three. I’m not sure which big but I am thinking that they are going to want to play Ed Davis more this year so you don’t need both Amir and Aaron Gray sitting on the bench too.                                                                               

    • WhiteVegas

      Calderon + Ed for Deng. If Chicago starts out rough they can go for the tank, cut over $10M salary and bring back a promising big. Depends on how they start and how soon Rose will be back.

      Or

      Calderon + Ed for Granger.

      Maybe some package to Philly could bring back Turner or Thad Young, but I doubt it.

      Maybe something for Wilson Chandler if he plays well. He has a long deal so I’m cautious until I see him play well consistently at least at his contracts level.

      • mountio

        please stop the ridiculus calderon trade posts. These are out to lunch

    • minks77

      Ed’s the only one with enough potential vs contract value to return anything special. Amir is a known quantity and Gray is a bum. Jose and Ed and perhaps a cheap sf like double A?

    • what the

      why do we want to get rid of players who plays defense

  • mobchester

    What happen to the roll call ???????

    • EmarErozan

      This was better than roll call.

      • Tinman

        Role Call stands alone, and if I’m not mistaken done under the influence of whatever can be found.

        This was a good read, and really enjoyed the format, but son, you’re no Role Call

        • EmarErozan

          Roll call is like an outhouse, each bit of output is new in a way but it’s the same shitty concept.

  • JHP

    Well AB has had 5+ years to show something and he’s one of

    – sulking
    – injured
    – in a medically induced coma

    I’m sorry but trade him to some team that thinks they can wake him up. Of course people would argue he’s a big and they take longer to develop.  Well the 5 years are up and if we’re going to suck let’s move on.  Of course BC will never trade him and there lays the rub.  So I guess BC will be the first to go. 

    • Solo Miranda

      Last year, was supposed to be his breakout year. He played like an all-star in span of 13 games we’ve seen him but it is really unfortunate he got injured, he came back and noticeably he was never the same and….he got injured again. What can you do?! Hopefully though, he stays healthy this year and can play for the whole season. Not just Barg btw but the whole raps team hopefully could have an injury-free season cross fingers*

  • NyAlesund

    The real problem now is the lack of cominication between PG and SF/PF. Many difficulties to pass the ball, entry pass many times deflected or aborted. We have more talent but right now we are not able to use it correctly.

    We are still in pre-season. Another 4 games to make us ready.

    • babyface

      WHAT? OMG ,LORENZO .CESCO,POOKA,AB40ONBOSH say it ain’t so this stuff coming out of you guys camp. lack of comminication between PG (calderon) what will they think of next. 

      • Lorenzo

        ??

        • CJT

          I have actually never understood a word that guys says.  Which is kind of sad because he looks like he is trying so hard to same something.

          • Lorenzo

            It’s destro’s infant brother

  • Kujo

    Lucas has made Calderon expendable.  There’s no way that they can’t give this guy back up minutes from the jump.  Raps need to trade Jose once Lowry get’s healthy. 

    • Minks77

      Everyone loves a shoot first pg with no size…smh

      He’s made the uzohs and martins of the waiver wire world expendable and he’ll soften the blow if/when Jose is traded. That being said, Jose is twice the point Lucas could ever hope to be.

      • j bean

        Jose is a play it safe, unimaginative good backup. He makes his opposing pg look like an allstar no matter who it is because he is so easy to score on. Lucas is better defensively, makes his shot from all over the floor and as his 8 assists in a winning effort attest to he’s more than a sg in a pg body.

        • Arsenalist

          Harsh.  Given the direction of the team for the last three years, Jose can best serve the Raptors as being an asset in the trade market.

          The guy should’ve been traded three years ago because, as good as he is running the point here and there, his skill/style/age is not aligned with the window of contention this team is striving for.

          Basically, he’s wasting time here and it would be good for both parties if 1) the Raps got something for him, 2) he got to play for a real team before his career is over.

          • j bean

            Colangelo has been trying to get something for him for years. The only good offer fell through when everyone came to their senses. The as you call them “real” teams all know he is available but nobody is interested. 

            • KJ-B

              The deadline last year was missed when he was balling–we’ll see what happen–$10 mil expiring is huge for anybody…let’s use it wisely!

            • unknown guest

              Or opposing GM’s know that if they wait out a desperate BC, they can get Calderon for close to nothing and even have the Raps pay for 1/2 his salary. Another scenario is just wait for free agency and get him then. 
              I myself like Calderon’s steady handed style, and echo Arsenalist’s sentiment that Jose is/has been wasted here.

              • j bean

                The notion that a player is wasting his time with a team that believed in him, made him their starter and is their highest paid player is laughable. 

              • CJT

                I don’t think the team is desperate to get rid of him at all.  If they can get something good for him, they will if they don’t they will try and resign him in the offseason.  

  • http://falseprophetsandgods.blogspot.com/ GN. FLAVIVS PHILOVERITAS

    Lucas is playing like a guy fighting for a spot on the roster and Bargnani is playing like a guy who is not fighting for anything going half speed in a meaningless game. Lucas can afford to risk injury playing hard in a preseason where Andrea is thinking that the long two is the safe play.

    • babyface

      and your point is

      • p00ka

        The point is that over the top reactionary fools like you seem to have difficulty wrapping your head around some basic facts about what preseason is about:

        It’s not about winning, but preparing for the regular season, still weeks away. That preparation means different things for different players, for a variety of reasons. Is your mind big enough to understand that?

        In Andrea’s case, coach Casey has clearly stated that AB has his spot in the rotation locked in and is playing himself into shape (remember that severe calf strain he spent the summer rehabbing, rather than working out?), and keeping it safe for now. Anybody making sweeping judgements on his play during these first few friendlies either don’t have the capacity to understand preseason, or are just doing their blind hate thing.

        • CJT

          On a brighter note, that is the first thing that guy has ever written that I understood.  Things are looking up on RR

        • coachcasey

          STFU

    • ZZ

       You’re right. Let’s start JL3 at PF

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XHJKFMCGSMBEQGBRKJVLKUGSEQ john g

    The offense just looks out of rhythm to me. With Jonas now in with Bargs, they have to figure out the chemistry on the pick and rolls to get better looks. Then when Kyle comes back they got to adjust again to his play style. The defense is coming along but the offense and the spacing looked kind of sloppy to me. I hope they can figure it out. 

    • CJT

      They seem determined to have a big involved in the high post.  Basically every posession seemed to involve the PG passing it to the big at the high post and then running around for a while until he takes the ball back out of the bigs hands.  Don’t really get it yet, but they must be working on something specific.

  • Jamshid

    When is Lowry going to be back ? Is he going to miss the whole training Camp ? Is this a new injury or related to what he had last year ?

    • CJT

      I have heard it is groin again, like last year, but that they are being more preventative that reactionary with it.  Casey said next week a few times when talking about Lowry the past few days.  I hope we get to see him before regular season games start.

  • KJ-B

    Special Ed & JoVal had grrreat chemistry last night–Hope to see more of it…ahem, #7 to the bench or traded if that keeps up……..

    • babyface

      i saw the same thing,right now i would be ok with both of them as starters giving us 10 and 10 each while AB13 gets in shape

  • RapthoseLeafs

    I enjoyed this wrap-up – and the format.

    Considering this is pre-season, and not really a good barometer (as a whole), I can wait for the Roll Call that we all seem to like.

    For me, it’s great seeing Jonas get some more Court time – after such a long wait getting to this point. Granted, this is early (pre-season), with some (especially Andrea) getting their legs back, but I liked what I saw in the 2nd half. JV seemed a little more comfortable, and the duo of JV & AB at one point, was hopefully a harbinger of things to come.

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  • Roarque

    The depth at three positions is going to be needed for the NBA season that is coming fast. Injuries always, always affect who makes the playoffs – nice to see BC has stocked the Raptors well. Depending on where the Raptors stand in the W/L category and on who is healthy before the trade deadline and who needs a piece, we can expect that Jose and DDR ( and maybe Eddy) could be offloaded for a future draft pick. BTW – who is backing up Landry Fields at SG if he’s injured? 

    • Alba T-Ross

      Landry fields doesn’t play sg he’s a sf.  If Landry is injured no one is backing him up cause he’s not playing. In that case kleiza will start and Anderson to back him up

      • EmarErozan

        Nice handle, oh Yah!

  • Nilanka15

    I would never have said this a month ago, but there’s a part of me that would prefer to see Anderson over Kleiza on the depth chart.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XHJKFMCGSMBEQGBRKJVLKUGSEQ john g

      Sadly, he already is there

      • Nilanka15

        It’s true of Friday night, but I wonder if that’s how it will be come October 31st.

  • Destro

    hmmm Drummond 25 min 19 pts/10 boards/2 blks

    Storage Wars “YUUUUUUUUUUP”

    • nba_socrates

      Exactly this guy is a beast, ROY without a doubt but Colangelo and his associates decides to pass on him, when our main need was toughness on the inside and a big body that can bang it or atleast be able to compete with the best without it being a cakewalk. Hes not even a finished article yet and he’ll easily average a double double this season.
      Theres no excuse for passing up on him, yes i know 7 other GMs passed on him and that truly makes BC’s decision not to draft an athletic yes athletic big man, ‘how many of those are in the league’ such a boneheaded decision  instead he drafts Ross who does  not have any unique skill set and is pretty much a jumpshooter which the team does not really need as much as a physical dominant poster child. 

      • 511

        No offense intended nba_socrates (gots2go, right?) but I don’t really get the obsession you have with Drummond. I mean, he had some moments that first game against us when he looked good but … it really might be a bit early to be gnashing your teeth over not selecting him in the draft. Personally, I don’t think I would’ve drafted him in that spot, either. I know, silly me, but … I’m just saying. Sometimes it’s more of an art than a science and often, quite damn often, a lot of time has to go by before everyone really *knows*. Ya know? 

        • nba_socrates

          You would not draft him at that spot? You must be on the same medication as BC and his inept scouts,associates or whoever they are.
          The team is filled with jump shooters, soo instead of going for a big man with athleticism to compliment Val and give the coach different looks and options to work with in the front court, yet we go for another chucker makes perfect sense doesnt it. BC needs to go.

          • 511

            Haha. You’re consistent, I’ll give you that.